@hightor,
You're all never-trumpers. You just won't admit it.
I have no idea what a Clintonista might be.
Care to expand on that descriptor of yours?
We all know why Trump is your 45th POTUS, but you folk are still living in denial.
You're even denying your denial, and that's some kind of psyche hangup, there is no name for, as yet.
Get your collective **** together, and find a meaningful candidate for the 2020 election cycle, because Biden isn't gonna cut it, and neither is indy Sanders.