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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 26 Feb, 2020 10:25 pm
Snopes checks the following claim:
Quote:
The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs.

Snopes finds the claim True https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

Thought this should be posted for educational purposes.
oralloy
 
  1  
Wed 26 Feb, 2020 11:55 pm
@blatham,
Snopes also once claimed that the UN was not trying to foster a global gun ban treaty.

You can't trust what Snopes says on political matters.
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Builder
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 03:37 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Snopes checks the following claim:


Too phunny.

Snopes got "snoped" ages ago.

They were always politically biased, but now they're just a controlled entity.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 05:16 am
@Builder,
Then show us which of the purported facts in the Snopes account are incorrect. Show where you perceive there to be "bias". The story makes a number of statements about the U.S. pandemic response team so you should be able to refute a few of them to show that the fact checking site is unreliable.

Did it ever occur to you that the criticisms of the Snopes site might themselves be prompted by bias?

blatham
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 05:50 am
ICE has run facial-recognition searches on millions of Maryland drivers

The infrastructure for a truly insidious police state is falling into place nicely.
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Brand X
 
  3  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 06:20 am
Latest American infected with novel coronavirus could be 1st case of 'community spread' on US soil


'However, the newest patient, who is a resident of California's Solano County, had no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual, according to the California Department of Public Health.'

https://abcnews.go.com/International/latest-american-infected-coronavirus-1st-case-community-spread/story?id=69251035
hightor
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 06:48 am
@Brand X,
Quote:

Latest American infected with novel coronavirus could be 1st case of 'community spread' on US soil


And recent reports from China and Japan show that some of the patients who have recovered from the disease have now developed it again.

EDIT: One positive outcome of this near-pandemic is that China has forbidden the sale of wildlife for human consumption and has closed the traditional "wet markets" where wild animals are sold.
blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 07:22 am
Quote:
For Attorney General Bill Barr, the U.S. is beset by problems: non-believers, as well as liberals who believe in a “collectivist agenda.”

Barr made the comments at the NRB Christian Media Convention in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday.

“Politics is everywhere. It’s omnipresent. Why is that?” Barr asked the audience.

The answer, he continued, was a political landscape dominated by conflict and strife between two incompatible visions of the country: limited government and a broader view of the state that clamps down on liberty by forcing a “collectivist agenda” on individuals.

The nation’s chief law enforcement officer went on to address religion, bemoaning how faith has been removed from the public discourse over the past few decades.

He told the crowd that separation of Church and State, while advisable, “does not require that we drive religion from the public square and affirmatively use government power to promote a culture of disbelief.”

Religion, Barr argued, limits government “by cultivating internal moral values in the people,” as opposed to “utopian” and hubristic secular programs...
TPM

It's not difficult at all to fathom how this guy (and those who think like him) find it so agreeable to work at the behest of an amoral tyrant who holds no religious ideas at all. He is a very similar sort, just with a much tighter sphincter.

Edit: See related post below by Ed Kilgore
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blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 07:27 am
@hightor,
Quote:
EDIT: One positive outcome of this near-pandemic is that China has forbidden the sale of wildlife for human consumption and has closed the traditional "wet markets" where wild animals are sold.
Last week on CBC radio, I caught an interview with a pathologist who has been studying this problem in China. What his/their research has found is that the problems often arise prior to the animals arrival at the markets. For one example, where animals are caged above/below each other, if those above are infected their droppings will infect those below. So remedies will have to take that phase into account as well.
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blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 07:35 am
Quote:
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is not one to speak candidly. But while addressing reporters last night, he was uncharacteristically frank: His party would be “foolish” to not take Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) popularity seriously.

...While speaking to reporters McConnell hearkened back to the Reagan-era, when Democrats pushed for the Hollywood actor to become the nominee “because they thought he’d be the easiest to beat.”

“I think Republicans speculating about which Democratic candidate for president would be the easiest to beat may be a bit foolish,” he said.
TPM

After all, we can reflect on the last election. And there is something quite similar in Trump's and Sanders' messages, "We are something outside of the establishment. And the establishment is bad. Try us. You're losing with the old ways, aren't you?"
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blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 07:46 am
Interesting legal/constitutional point I had not heard before
Quote:

Why President Trump Can’t Pardon Roger Stone

...Many scholars agree that once a president has been impeached, he or she loses the power to pardon anyone for criminal offenses connected to the articles of impeachment. Less noticed is that even after the Senate’s failure to convict the president, he or she does not regain this power.

Under Article II, Section II of the Constitution, the president is given the “power to grant reprieves and pardons for offences against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.” Pardons are supposed to be used as acts of mercy. The framers thought of the pardon power as a “benign prerogative”—prerogative because it was mostly unchecked by courts or Congress, but benign because presidents would use it for the public good.

But the framers knew not to place blind trust in the president to wield the power justly. That’s why they explicitly forbade a president from exercising the pardon power in “cases of impeachment.” The clause prevents the worst abuse of the pardon power: a president’s protecting cronies who have been convicted of crimes related to the president’s own wrongdoing.
Politico

blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:02 am
Quote:
Conservative Poll Says Real Catholics Love Trump
By Ed Kilgore (note: Kilgore is Catholic)

There’s been so much attention paid to Donald Trump’s intense (if transactional) relationship with white conservative Evangelical leaders and voters that it’s easy to forget there are other people of faith who are politically active. Now, as in the recent past, those who self-identify with America’s largest religious denomination, the Roman Catholic Church, are very close to the average voter politically in how they feel about the 45th president. Yes, unsurprisingly, white Catholics are more prone to smile on Trump than nonwhite Catholics. But all in all, American Catholics are more likely than not to disapprove of the heathenish warlord’s tenure as president.

That basic conclusion is actually reinforced by a new survey from two conservative media outlets, EWTN News (Eternal Word Television Network, which offers exclusively Catholic content and also owns the conservative National Catholic Register) and RealClearOpinion Research. It shows Catholics overall being less than jazzed about Trump, though he’s doing a bit better of late:

Quote:
The poll found that slightly less than half of all Catholics (47%) approve of President Trump’s job performance. This marks a small improvement in his approval rate, which was 44% in November 2019. Likewise, about one-third (34%) of Catholics say they will definitely vote to re-elect President Trump, and another 12% report that there’s a good chance. Similar numbers say they will oppose him (36% would never vote for him; 10% say it is unlikely) — the remaining 8% say it is possible that they would vote to re-elect him.


But what’s interesting about the poll is that its sponsors work hard to correlate support for Trump with fidelity to the One True Faith:

Quote:
[T]he poll found that 18% of Catholics indicate that they accept all of the Church’s teachings and those are reflected in how they live their lives …

That relatively small group of Catholics often described as devout or active, one-fifth of the Catholic population, claims to accept all the teachings of the Church and lives and votes very differently from many of their fellow Americans and even their fellow Catholics. They are more active in their daily practice of the faith, go to Mass more often, and are guided by Catholic teaching on a more regular basis as they discern how to vote and how to respond to the great social issues and moral crises of our time.


And guess what:

Quote:
[P]ositive numbers for President Trump depend heavily on the devout Catholics. Among this group, 63% approve of the president. Similarly, 59% of devout Catholics plan to vote for Trump in 2020; another 8% say there’s a good chance, and only 20% say they will never vote for him.


If it weren’t for those bad, Cafeteria Catholics …

Quote:
n the head-to-head matchups against would-be rivals in the November election … President Trump still trails the Democrats among all Catholics, in every hypothetical matchup at this stage of the campaign.

[But] a majority of devout Catholics … support the president consistently against all of his prospective Democrat opponents.


The poll sponsors’ write-up frets that aside from presidential preferences, American Catholics continue to rebel against Church teachings on cultural issues:

Quote:
Less than half of all Catholics say that abortion (47%), euthanasia (45%), or physician-assisted suicide (41%) are intrinsically evil. This is, of course, in direct contradiction to the Church and is in sharp contrast with the views of active or devout Catholics; 71% of devout Catholics believe abortion is intrinsically evil, 70% believe physician-assisted suicide is intrinsically evil, and 64% believe euthanasia is intrinsically evil.


But there is some consensus among believers of all stripes:

[O]verwhelming numbers are found on the questions of whether Catholics believe in hell and the devil. Some 81% of all Catholics believe in hell, and 79% believe in the devil; and of those who believe in the devil, 79% say the devil is not merely a personification or a symbol of evil but is a fallen angel.

Some Catholics believe they and conservative politicians are fighting the good fight against Satan and his imps. Others get downwind of Donald Trump and smell the brimstone. Devoutly.


As I've noted before, I think the reason many right wing types so frequently get so incensed with whistle-blowers and so standardly accuse them of being disgruntled former employees is because that's how they think of Satan.
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:18 am
Shortly before the 2018 midterm elections, the Associated Press asked Donald Trump about the climate crisis and his indifference toward the evidence. "My uncle was a great professor at MIT for many years," the president responded. "Dr. John Trump. And I didn't talk to him about this particular subject, but I have a natural instinct for science."

Somewhat later, Trump added that his uncle was one of the greatest scientists ever, perhaps the greatest. "He invented oxygen", Trump noted.
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:18 am
@blatham,
Nonsense. The constitutional provision at issue rather clearly forbids the President from pardoning other Federal officials who have been impeached and convicted by Congress for malfeasance in office. Roger Stone is not one.

Have a second cup off coffee and find another, more reliable source.,
blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:34 am
@georgeob1,
Source your claim.
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blatham
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:40 am
Jesus. In Iran right now, families have broken into a hospital to free their relatives quarantined with the coronavirus.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:47 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Conservative Poll Says Real Catholics Love Trump
By Ed Kilgore (note: Kilgore is Catholic)
[/qupte]

Are there any other definable groups of people out there you might wish to add to your list of apparent deplorables? I sometimes get the impression that you may still be motivated by deep hostilities, implanted perhaps in childhood or early youth. If so that's unfortunate. Most people in their adult lives develop an appreciation for the complexity of human nature, the unique qualities of individual people, and the folly behind any effort to organize it all for everyone. Life is an unequal struggle, death a great equalizer and we remain unable to explain it all: even you.

hightor
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:51 am
@blatham,
This is in line with my cryptic mutterings of a few days ago — overpopulation combined with social media means that the consequences of populism unleashed will become extremely destructive in many ways. It's insidious. This is much worse than Congolese guerillas burning down Ebola treatment centers. Iran is an educated country where, heretofore, people had some respect for medical expertise.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 08:57 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Iran is an educated country where, heretofore, people had some respect for medical expertise.


That doesn't necessarily mean respect for the regime.
hightor
 
  1  
Thu 27 Feb, 2020 09:04 am
@izzythepush,
I know that. But the regime is, in this case, responding to an outbreak of infectious disease in a medically approved manner. Disrespect for the regime shouldn't translate into automatic disrespect of scientific expertise. I don't think much of the Trump regime and dismiss its warnings about Muslims but when it comes to natural disasters I wouldn't ignore any government warnings out of hand.
 

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