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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 05:02 am
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Iranians are voting in elections in an exercise widely expected to result in a more hardline parliament loyal to the country's supreme leader.

It is the first such poll since the US renewed sanctions over Iran's nuclear programme, battering its economy.

Thousands of moderate would-be candidates were barred from running for not meeting strict election criteria.

Observers say authorities will be hoping for a high voter turnout as a sign of support for the regime.

Critics of Iran's rulers have called on citizens to boycott the polls as a way of showing their opposition to what they say is widespread repression of human rights and intolerance of dissent.

The field of candidates running in the election is dominated by conservatives and hardliners, with the outcome likely to politically weaken President Hassan Rouhani, a relative moderate.

More than 7,000 candidates are vying for 290 seats in the parliament, known as the Majlis. It is part of Iran's mixed system of democratic and theocratic governance, under which the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has the final say in the most important matters.

More than 16,000 contenders - including 90 mostly reformist members of the current Majlis - were disqualified from standing by the Guardian Council, a vetting committee loyal to Mr Khamenei.

On Thursday the US imposed sanctions on five members of Council for "preventing the Iranian people from freely choosing their leaders".

One of those blacklisted, Abasali Kadkhodai, responded mockingly. He said he felt "honoured to be sanctioned by America" - Iran's foremost foe - the Iranian national broadcaster Irib reported, according to Reuters.

The Islamic republic has been at loggerheads with the US and much of the West since a revolution in 1979 brought a radical Shia Muslim leadership to power.

Mr Khamenei said voting in the parliamentary elections was a "religious duty" which would show steadfastness in the face of US efforts to isolate and pressurise the country into changing.

Tensions between Iran and the US have soared since 2018 when President Donald Trump abandoned a multi-country agreement, which lifted sanctions in exchange for curbs on Iran's nuclear programme.

Foreign powers suspect Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, although Iran insists its nuclear activities are for purely peaceful purposes.

Divisions over the elections have become increasingly crystallised on social media, with Iranians expressing pro- and anti-government positions.

It is unclear how many Iranians will heed calls to vote, with many disenchanted by the state of the economy, as well as the Iranian president's failure to deliver on promises of improving civil liberties.

Recent crackdowns on anti-government protesters have also deepened opposition to the ruling classes.

Supporters of Ayatollah Khamenei have been posting under the hashtags "strong majlis" and "I take part because", with one user tweeting "each vote is a bullet in the eye of the enemy".

Anti-establishment Iranians, meanwhile, have been commenting under hashtags "I do not vote" and "no vote".

"If our opinion was really important and it could change something, they would never ask for our opinion," one critic tweeted.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51570725<br />
Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 05:09 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Iranians are voting in elections in an exercise widely expected to result in a more hardline parliament loyal to the country's supreme leader.

Let's meander back a few decades, to when the CIA attempted their very first political coup, in their ouster of a democratically elected leader. Operation Ajax completely screwed the Iranian people.

And they're still paying the price for that meddling, today. ..
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 08:32 am
@Builder,
actually it was Davey Rockerfeller who finagled an entry of the SHah into the US. The rest fell into place
revelette3
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 10:10 am
@snood,
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If someone gets tried, judged guilty and sentenced, while everyone expects a pardon, and then he’s pardoned- that is not justice being served. That’s kabuki.


True I understand what you're saying and agree. (not sure what kabuki is) I meant that at least the Judge and jury didn't knuckle under to pressure from Trump. Gotta take our crumbs where we can get them, in my opinion; along with keeping on fighting the good fight until better times. (and then keep on fighting still)
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hightor
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 10:55 am
@farmerman,
I believe he was referring to the 1953 coup, orchestrated by the CIA, which removed Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and installed the Shah.
Setanta
 
  4  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 11:14 am
@hightor,
That had some far reaching consequences. It was actually the British Secret Service who wanted Mossadegh out, so they turned to "the cousins" for help. Central Intelligence convinced the recently inaugurated Eisenhower, giving him phony information. When he realized he had been suckered, he never trusted the CIA again. When the French and the Brits dropped paratroopers on the Suez Canal in 1956, Eisenhower refused to participate. He sent a fleet to Beirut to protect Americans. The Israelis sent an armored column into the Sinai, and Eisenhower told them to get out, or he'd cut off all aid to the Israelis, and he issued an executive order to prevent the transfer of private funds to Israel. Lyndon Johnson, the Senate Majority Leader said, in so many words: "You can't do that." Eisenhower replied, in so many words, "Watch me." By the time a court challenge wended its way through the courts, Israel would have hurting. Israel pulled out of the Sinai a lot faster than they went in. Central Intelligence grew disenchanted with Iran, so Israeli Mossad replaced them in Iran. They carried out kidnappings and murders. That's why the Iranians hate the Israelis--they were never antisemitic before that. The price of unintended consequences.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 11:48 am
@Setanta,
Thanks for the in-depth response. Ike is so underrated.
Setanta
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 12:30 pm
@hightor,
I agree completely. He is one of the best chief magistrates we have ever had.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:05 pm
Quote:
Senator Tim Scott Predicts Massive Increase In Black Support For Trump

Trump only needs 13% of the Black vote to defeat the Democrats.
Quote:
Senator Tim Scott is predicting a significant uptick in support from the black community for President Trump on Election Day.

Scott (R-SC) spoke with Fox News host Neil Cavuto on Thursday, suggesting Trump’s support from African-Americans was set to skyrocket, perhaps even doubling from when he won the White House in 2016.

“President Trump will see a 50 percent increase in his African-American support,” Scott envisioned. “It will go from 8 percent in 2016 to a minimum of 12 percent in 2020. He may even get to 15 percent of the African American vote, and that is game over.”

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/senator-tim-scott-predicts-massive-increase-in-black-support-for-trump/
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Trump only needs 13% of the Black vote to defeat the Democrats.

Great, maybe red states will start allowing them to vote unchallenged and unencumbered.
blatham
 
  0  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:38 pm
Today's Orwellian chart-topper
Rush Limbaugh says the deep state faked evidence about WMDs in Iraq to embarrass George W. Bush
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:46 pm
@blatham,
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Today's Orwellian chart-topper


Jeezus H. Chrysler — there were people in the intelligence community challenging the reports of WMDs! That's when I first became aware of the right's hostility to the CIA because they weren't corroborating the neo-conservative narrative.

Quote:

During this time, part of her work concerned the determination of the use of aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq. CIA analysts prior to the Iraq invasion were quoted by the White House as believing that Iraq was trying to acquire nuclear weapons and that these aluminum tubes could be used in a centrifuge for nuclear enrichment.David Corn and Michael Isikoff argued that the undercover work being done by Plame and her CIA colleagues in the Directorate of Central Intelligence Nonproliferation Center strongly contradicted such a claim.

wikipedia

(should really be WsMD)
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:47 pm
@hightor,
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Great, maybe red states will start allowing them to vote unchallenged and unencumbered.

You are talking about a myth. There is no voter suppression, only people not interested in voting.
blatham
 
  0  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:55 pm
Fox Guest:
Quote:
If Harvey Weinstein is convicted "it is going to redefine the idea of consent in a very, very dangerous way where men have to read minds. As a criminal defense attorney, that is really scary to me"


You expect the ad break to feature Jeffrey Dahmer doing a positive review of the new Dewalt brushless power drills.

coldjoint
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 01:57 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
You expect the ad break to feature Jeffrey Dahmer doing a positive review of the new Dewalt brushless power drills.

Not really, but you would expect someone like you to bring Dahmer up.
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hightor
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 02:09 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
There is no voter suppression, only people not interested in voting.

That's a misconception. The suppression is done in subtle ways by restricting early voting, challenging signatures, making people wait for hours in under-staffed polling sites. No wonder people "lose interest". States are given considerable leeway to run elections as they wish. Gerrymandering for partisan advantage can have racial consequences as well, especially in the South where Republicans control the government and nearly all black voters are Democrats. So, once black voters are seen as reliable votes for the GOP we can look forward to much fairer elections.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 02:32 pm
Based on the presumption that an all good, all knowing and all powerful supreme being is unlikely to intervene in human affairs, I can say with some confidence that outside of a serious catastrophe America is certain to experience a serious catastrophe.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 02:41 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
The suppression is done in subtle ways by restricting early voting, challenging signatures, making people wait for hours in under-staffed polling sites.

So subtle you can say that but not prove it. It is more of beating the racist dead horse narrative.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 02:44 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
I can say with some confidence

I can say with some confidence any credibility you had is long gone.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2020 03:08 pm
@hightor,
Before the 2000 election, the Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, hired a private firm to review the voter roles. Thousands of Democrats, mostly blacks, were disqualified on questionable grounds. Some were disqualified simply because they had the same name as a convicted felon, when said felon was not on the registration lists. Voters, of course, did not learn of this until they showed up at the poles on election day. As a result of the state's contract with Database Technologies, "173,000 registered voters in Florida were permanently wiped off the voter rolls. Even an elections supervisor in Madison County was barred from voting; she and others 'tried to get the state to rectify the problem, but their pleas fell on deaf ears.' " (Source at Wikipedia). Given that Bush "won" by fewer than 600 votes, Gore probably would have buried him without Harris' interference.

Article One, Section Four of the constitution reads, in its entirety: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators. Effectively, this means that the several states certify elections. Nevertheless, In Bush versus Gore, the Supremes (the Rehnquist Court) intervened to stop a recount mandated by Florida`s Supreme Court. What is one to do when the body which judges what does or does not pass constitutional muster exercises license itself? The right of a state to certify an election was never disputed prior to this decision.

Two years later, Harris was elected to the House. She was lead to believe that she might run for the Senate in 2006 with Republican support, if she stood aside in 2004 for Mel Martinez. the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development at that time. She stood aside, and Martinez was elected. However, in 2006, Bush and his brother Jeb Bush wanted the Florida Speaker of the House, Allan Bense. Karl Rove personally got involved in the effort to draft Bense. Harris would not take it lying down, however, and she won the primary. By then, charges of corruption were flying left and right, at Martinez, at the Democratic incumbent, Bill Nelson and the Democrats made a lot of noise about Harris' shenanigans before and during the 2000 election. Bense did not even make a showing in the Republican primary, and Nelson went on to trounce Harris in the election.

Not only is voter suppression a problem in this country, but the two main political parties are snake pits--something Harris only learned when she wanted to run for the Senate in 2006.
 

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