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coldjoint
 
  0  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 08:30 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
The address wasn’t understood

That is where your link goes. Maybe you should hang up.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 08:32 pm
@Builder,
blah blah big fingers bad typist, wrong keys hit. even when the result is sometimes semi gibberish it makes more sense than you do.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 08:34 pm
@Builder,
And I do go back and work to correct it. You just keep producing well typed nonsenbse, like coldjoint.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 08:38 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
sometimes semi gibberish it makes more sense than you do.

Not on your best day. Shocked
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:02 pm
@coldjoint,
even on my worst day it makes more sense than you.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:15 pm
@oralloy,
Clinton got the punishment he merited for trying to cover up what was only a consensual sexual incident,if tawdry. Trump of course did far worse in that line as shown in the access Hollywood tapes, for which he skated. Then he endangered national security, abused the power of his office to essentially force an ally to do his bidding for his own personal ends endangering the security of that ally in the process, and tried to cover it up, lied about it, and engagDe in what can only be called witness tampering,and so thoroughly terrified the gop senators with the retributions he's brougnt on people who didn't bend the knee to him that we now have 51 republican senators without a single ounce of courage or honor among them.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:18 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
even on my worst day it makes more sense than you.

Have you seen your posts?
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:28 pm
@coldjoint,
YEP. i'm right.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:38 pm
@oralloy,
SOME trolls may not have an ideological basis. Others clearly do.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
That is incorrect. Having an ideological bias is contrary to the very definition of trolling.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:46 pm
Pelosi seems happy with the POTUS' address to the nation. LOL.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:47 pm
@oralloy,
Prior to the caucuses, Microsoft issued a press release in which they seem to be claiming both parties used Microsoft apps. contrary to oralloys reperated attempts to lambaste rogressives, it was not progressives who fucked it up. it was Microsoft. what a surprise. remember windows 8 https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-put-to-the-test-in-tonights-iowa-caucuses/
oralloy
 
  -1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
Was it Microsoft who kept the caucus guy on hold for hours and then hung up on him on national TV?

What are your objections to Windows 8?
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oralloy
 
  0  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:53 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Yeah. Like saving the economy from the worldwide crash Republicanonomics caused.

It was Bill Clinton who signed the financial deregulation that paved the way for the crash.


MontereyJack wrote:
Working out a plan with our allies to get iran to forego possible nuclear weapons development for 15 years, which trump abrogated and set them free to start nuke research if they wnt to,

Presumably if Iran resumes their development of illegal weapons, their nuclear sites will be bombed.


MontereyJack wrote:
pulling us out of the Paris Accords and letting greenhouse gases reach new highs,

It's not like there is any credible evidence that there is even a problem.


MontereyJack wrote:
Obama built bridges to make us better and stronger.

He wasted the entire first hundred days of his second term throwing a tantrum about the NRA, and ended up getting nothing done in the last six years of his presidency because of it.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 09:57 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Clinton got the punishment he merited for trying to cover up what was only a consensual sexual incident,if tawdry.

If perjury, witness tampering, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy to obstruct justice are not worthy of removing a president from office, then the same standards need to apply to Mr. Trump as well.


MontereyJack wrote:
Trump of course did far worse in that line as shown in the access Hollywood tapes, for which he skated.

The Access Hollywood tapes show that Mr. Trump had consensual sex. That is not far worse than anything.

Bill Clinton on the other hand was guilty of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and outright rape.


MontereyJack wrote:
Then he endangered national security,

Hardly.


MontereyJack wrote:
abused the power of his office to essentially force an ally to do his bidding for his own personal ends endangering the security of that ally in the process,

Democrats do that all the time. If it is OK for Democrats to do it, then it's OK for Mr. Trump to do it.

Not that you can prove that Mr. Trump did this for his own personal ends.


MontereyJack wrote:
and tried to cover it up, lied about it,

Actually he immediately released a transcript of the phone call as soon as people started throwing a fit about it.


MontereyJack wrote:
and engaged in what can only be called witness tampering,

That's OK. The Democrats have already established with Bill Clinton that it is OK for presidents to engage in witness tampering.


MontereyJack wrote:
and so thoroughly terrified the gop senators with the retributions he's brougnt on people who didn't bend the knee to him that we now have 51 republican senators without a single ounce of courage or honor among them.

Equating "courage and honor" with "helping progressives conduct witch hunts against people who disagree with progressivism" is pretty silly.
oralloy
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 10:01 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Pelosi seems happy with the POTUS' address to the nation. LOL.

I haven't bothered to pay attention to a state of the union speech (from presidents of either party) for many years now.

I'm sure if there was anything noteworthy it'll be on tomorrow's evening news.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 11:54 pm
Trump wants to "make federal buildings beautiful again" by mandating a return to "the classical architectural style", according to a draft executive order obtained by Architectural Record on Tuesday.

The Record reports that it had obtained "what appears to be a preliminary draft of the order".

Will the White House Order New Federal Architecture To Be Classical?
Quote:
RECORD has obtained what appears to be a preliminary draft of the order, under which the White House would require rewriting the Guiding Principles for Federal Architecture, issued in 1962, to ensure that “the classical architectural style shall be the preferred and default style” for new and upgraded federal buildings. Entitled “Making Federal Buildings Beautiful Again,” the draft order argues that the founding fathers embraced the classical models of “democratic Athens” and “republican Rome” for the capital’s early buildings because the style symbolized the new nation’s “self-governing ideals” (never mind, of course, that it was the prevailing style of the day).

The draft decries the quality of architecture under the General Service Administration’s (GSA) Design Excellence Program for its failure to re-integrate “our national values into Federal buildings” which too often have been “influenced by Brutalism and Deconstructivism.” The draft document specifically cites the U.S. Federal Building in San Francisco (2007, by Morphosis), the U.S. Courthouse in Austin, Texas (2012, by Mack Scogin Merrill Elam Architects), and the Wilkie D. Ferguson, Jr. U.S. Courthouse in Miami (2007, by Arquitectonica) for having “little aesthetic appeal.”
[...]
The original Guiding Principles, written by the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, mandated that Federal architecture “must provide visual testimony to the dignity, enterprise, vigor, and stability of the American government.” The draft document uses the same words—dignity, enterprise, vigor and stability—while declaring that Brutalist and Deconstructivist styles “fail to satisfy these requirements and shall not be used.”
[...]
As a real estate developer, Trump’s taste in architecture tended to the glass and steel of modernism, albeit in an often glitzy style—from the 1983 Trump Tower in New York, designed by the late Der Scutt of Poor, Swanke, Hayden & Connell, to the 2009 Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago, designed by Adrian Smith, then at SOM. When Trump bought the Gulf and Western building on Columbus Circle in New York in the 1990s, he hired Philip Johnson and Costas Kondylis to re-skin its facade in bronze-tinted glass, prompting the late critic Herbert Muschamp to declare it was an International Style skyscraper decked out in a gold lamé party dress.

Will an executive order to bring classical design language to new federal architecture even be issued? The White House certainly has more pressing matters on its plate. But if it happens, quietly or otherwise, the impact would be enormous.

In response to this story, the American Institute of Architects (AIA) issued the following statement:

“The AIA strongly opposes uniform style mandates for federal architecture. Architecture should be designed for the specific communities that it serves, reflecting our rich nation’s diverse places, thought, culture and climates. Architects are committed to honoring our past as well as reflecting our future progress, protecting the freedom of thought and expression that are essential to democracy.”
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 11:56 pm
@oralloy,
No witch hunt. Now that it's just about over, there seems to be a whole crop of replubs who're sayomg triump's actions were really bad news. Of course they hadn't the courage to ssay it before the vote.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Tue 4 Feb, 2020 11:58 pm
@Builder,
You didn't see her tearing up a copy of his speech after he made it, did you?
oralloy
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 12:15 am
@MontereyJack,
When Democrats abuse the law to harm people who don't agree with them, that's a witch hunt.
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