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oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 12:17 am
@MontereyJack,
Pelosi was pretty childish.

It'll likely be quite some time before we have another Democratic president, but the Republicans will be free to be pretty rude and disruptive during their state of the union speeches when that day finally comes.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 12:37 am
@oralloy,
Eleven months isn't that long to wait. An eloquent gesture on Pelosi's part without having to say a word.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 12:58 am
Quote:
An eloquent gesture

So is a child lying on the floor kicking, screaming, and crying.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 01:08 am
@coldjoint,
After the **** they've put their president through, I wouldn't be making eye contact with that bitch.

Wasted years swanning around on the public purse, and still haven't found a half-decent candidate for the coming election.
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peacecrusader888
 
  0  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 01:55 am
@peacecrusader888,
Quote:
President Donald Trump is exonerated

He may be exonerated from Impeachment but the voters will give him their thumps down. He may be a one-term President.


Yes, President Donald Trump is exonerated but it will be the voters who will boot him out of office. So those who believe in Revelation must get out of USA as soon as possible.

Builder
 
  0  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 02:04 am
@peacecrusader888,
Quote:
So those who believe in Revelation must get out of USA as soon as possible.


Go to Canada.

We have a happy clapper pretend Christian screwing this nation over already.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 04:14 am
@coldjoint,
That's why the Baby Trump balloon rings so true to life.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 06:21 am
Brian Joyce
4 mins ·
I'm shocked & appalled that Nancy Pelosi tore up the president's State of the Union address and didn't

- grab a woman by the pussy
- make fun of a handicapped man
- make fun of a Purple Heart war hero
- fidget around like a 5 year-old during the National Anthem
- cheat on her 1st wife
- cheat on her 2nd wife
- cheat on her 3rd wife
- steal money from her own charity
- steal money from her own university
- call Africa a shithole
- call neo-Nazi's "fine people"
- call Mexicans rapists
- say windmills give you cancer and the Chiefs play in Kansas
- bribe a foreign country, obstruct justice, and get impeached

I'M SHOCKED & APPALLED THAT NANCY PELOSI DIDN'T DO THESE THINGS, BUT DID TEAR UP THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH!
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 06:27 am
@Brand X,
After reading the full text of Trump's State of the Union address, I'm firmly convinced that Trump did more to everyone than the love of God.
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NSFW (view)
Brand X
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 08:26 am
Cenk Uygur
@cenkuygur
·
9h
Is
@SenatorCollins
a liar or the dumbest person in America? She said she is voting for acquittal because
@realDonaldTrump
learned his lesson. Is that a joke? No one could be that stupid. And Trump apparently told reporters later that he had learned nothing & had acted perfectly.
oralloy
 
  1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 08:30 am
MontereyJack wrote:
Eleven months isn't that long to wait.

The Democrats have no chance at the White House until 2036, and even then only if they purge all the progressives from their party and nominate a moderate centrist.


MontereyJack wrote:
An eloquent gesture on Pelosi's part without having to say a word.

There is nothing eloquent about Democrats acting childish.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 08:32 am
@Brand X,
Quote:
- call neo-Nazi's "fine people"
- call Mexicans rapists

Mr. Trump did neither of these.
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revelette3
 
  3  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 08:40 am
Pelosi tearing up his speech was going as childish as Trump, not classy as she usually is. It would have been better had she just sat remaining silent. Better yet, not showing up at all.

Just saying.

I actually didn't watch it, I haven't watched a Trump SOTU yet and I don't plan to even if by some repeating nightmare he is re-elected which btw is looking more likely. None of the dem candidates at this time look likely to beat him. Pete would have a chance, but he only has white support. If Biden is out, I hope the Dems unite behind Bloomberg if he can manage to get the non-white vote. JMO
hightor
 
  4  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 08:43 am
@Brand X,
This is classic Collins behavior. She's notorious for being the holdout moderate who casts her vote with the Dems — as long as McConnell has enough votes to get what he wants. That's why she voted for calling witnesses — it was a show, because she knew there weren't enough votes to pass. It's a remarkably effective strategy; it keeps her from facing primary opponents and wins over enough independents and moderate Dems to secure her reelection. Again and again.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 09:41 am
@oralloy,
both of those statements are pure biased opinion not facts. most of what you post is pure out-of-touch-with-the-real-world opinion, not the fact you claim it to be.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 09:51 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
both of those statements are pure biased opinion not facts.

Actually, that first statement of mine is what is known as a prediction.


MontereyJack wrote:
most of what you post is pure out-of-touch-with-the-real-world opinion, not the fact you claim it to be.

I think your qualifier "most" is unlikely to be the case, but since I haven't recorded percentages of fact versus opinion in my posts, who knows.

Everything that I clam as a fact, though, is a fact.

The question of whether "the question of whether Pelosi's childish behavior is eloquent or not" is a question of fact or not is an interesting one.

I suppose it depends on whether eloquence is in the eye of the beholder (in which case it is an opinion) or whether eloquence has a more rigid definition (in which case it is a factual matter).
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 10:41 am
@hightor,
Quote:
This is classic Collins behavior.
It is. And it's predictable to 100%. What's also predictable is that lazy journalists and headline writers will refuse to acknowledge her serial history of bait and switch. Collins and McConnell understand this very well and work this media failing over and over.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 11:04 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
Pelosi tearing up his speech was going as childish as Trump, not classy as she usually is. It would have been better had she just sat remaining silent. Better yet, not showing up at all.
I think that's dead wrong, rev. Had it been a typical SOTU speech as given by any President prior to Trump, then I'd agree. But Trump is different that those who have come before. He is an authoritarian and a sociopath. It was a speech that deserved to be ripped up even if Trump hadn't refused to shake her hand. Staying silent in the presence of Trump's bullying and lies is no longer an option. Imagining that the normal rules of institutional etiquette will work in the citizens' interests with this guy who breaks them multiple times per day isn't going to work.

Quote:
Nancy Pelosi ripped up a copy of President Trump’s State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, and the civility police are on a rampage: On “Morning Joe,” host Willie Geist lectured that the House Speaker’s act is “not what the country needs.”

As many pointed out, Pelosi’s theatrical gesture, which came after Trump appeared to refuse to shake her hand at the outset, is tame alongside Trump’s own constant shredding of decorum — the hate rallies, the insulting of lawmakers and so forth.

But there’s a more precise point to be made here. If the underlying premise of the criticism of breaches of decorum is that they pose a threat to our democracy’s functioning, then much of what Trump has done well beyond such breaches — for three years now — actually does pose a severe threat to that functioning, while acts like Pelosi’s actually do not pose any remotely comparable threat.

This isn’t whataboutism. It’s meant to correct a massive category error. Breaches in civility are not the main threat to our political system. Indeed, if Trump only went on half-cocked rally rants and merely insulted Democrats, the current damage would not be nearly as severe.
It’s all the other misconduct that threatens the fabric of democracy — Trump’s unchecked lawlessness, his abuses of power, his public racism, his unprecedented lying, his treatment of the opposition as illegitimate.

In this context, hand-wringing about a mutual deterioration of decorum — the New York Times discerned a “mutual snubbing,” while an NBC reporter sniffed that Pelosi indulged in “antics” that are “Trumpian” — is profoundly misleading about the wildly asymmetrical realities of the moment.
Greg Sargent
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 5 Feb, 2020 11:26 am
@blatham,
Voices From the Right: episode # of pages in the Holy Bible (double spaced edition)
Quote:
Susan Collins’s impeachment vote personifies her soulless party
Jennifer Rubin
 

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