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oralloy
 
  -3  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 01:43 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
The never ceasing crowing by the U.S. of how it is somehow superior to all other nations (and probably galaxies and universes as well) with never a smidgen of humility, does not endear us to others.

It doesn't matter if they like us. If they're a threat to us, dronestrike them. If they aren't a threat to us, ignore them. Problem solved.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 01:43 pm
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Laughing Laughing Laughing
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 01:55 pm
Lofty goals.
BillRM
 
  3  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:02 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Sturgis wrote:
The never ceasing crowing by the U.S. of how it is somehow superior to all other nations (and probably galaxies and universes as well) with never a smidgen of humility, does not endear us to others.

It doesn't matter if they like us. If they're a threat to us, dronestrike them. If they aren't a threat to us, ignore them. Problem solved.


So you are under the impression that there are not many hundreds of thousands of people with the knowledge and skill to created weapon drones with off the shelf components worldwide?

There is nothing at the moment at least to keep both the white house and congress from being completely ruin from such an attack.

Suggest not using such tools/weapons in so a off hand manner as you are suggesting we do.

coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:24 pm
Quote:
Adam Schiff, April 2019: Obama Had a Duty to Investigate Candidate Trump

Quote:
Schiff wrote that investigating a potential president — even from the opposition — was an urgent matter of national security if there were reason to believe that candidate were working for, or beholden to, a foreign country.

He wrote (emphasis added):

Counterintelligence investigations differ from criminal investigations in their means, scope and ultimate disposition. Their goal is not successful prosecutions, but to identify and mitigate threats to national security. If a foreign power possessed compromising information on a U.S. government official in a position of influence, that is a counterintelligence risk. If a foreign power possessed leverage, or the perception of it, over the president, that is a counterintelligence nightmare.

Schiff added that the public deserved to see the material that the FBI found on the Trump campaign. (We know today that the FBI lied to the FISA court to obtain surveillance warrants on a Trump aide.)

Today, Schiff and the Democrats are arguing that it is an impeachable offense for a president to investigate foreign corruption by a potential president from the opposition — even when, as in the Bidens’ case, former Vice President Joe Biden had a clear conflict of interest while his son, Hunter, was on the board of Ukrainian company Burisma.

According to Schiff just last April, it is not an impeachable offense, but an urgent matter of national security for a president to investigate his potential successor.

It is the president’s duty. That is, unless the president is Donald J. Trump.

What a hypocritical bag of ****.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/01/24/adam-schiff-april-2019-obama-had-a-duty-to-investigate-candidate-trump/
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Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:26 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Lofty goals.


At least they have goals.

If the dems think creepy Joe Biden is worth support, they don't have any aspirations of defeating Trump in an election scenario.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:26 pm
@BillRM,
If someone chooses to attack the US, have the US military kill them. Problem solved.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:32 pm
@Builder,
A little follow up on what you posted.

Builder
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 02:59 pm
@coldjoint,
It's why we most certainly do need to hear all the witnesses.

Obama was neck-deep along with creepy Joe, and if there's a lazy dollar to be made, you can bet your bottom buck that Clinton would be hot on their heels as well.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 05:35 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
Obama was neck-deep along with creepy Joe, and if there's a lazy dollar to be made, you can bet your bottom buck that Clinton would be hot on their heels as well.

Linking Obama and Clinton to corruption can be proven without giving up Executive privilege. We cannot take that away from a (not just Trump) president. Separation of powers is too important to sabotage.
farmerman
 
  3  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 05:41 pm
@coldjoint,
I like the Dems on going salvos. "NONE OF THESE FACTS ARE IN DISPUTE".

coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 06:03 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
"NONE OF THESE FACTS ARE IN DISPUTE".

They have no problem repeating rhetoric. Nothing special about it.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 06:58 pm
Quote:
Trump Impeachment Attorney: 'It’s Not a Rebuttal,' We’re Going to 'Attack'

Quote:
But, what we are going to do is attack – attack all the misstatements, all of the half-played clips that didn’t play the entire clip, the entire statement, which ends up changing the entire meaning of what they tried to imply.

“I mean, how many times in those videos did you hear, did you see someone’s mouth keep going and the clip stop?

“We’re going to make sure the American people and all one hundred U.S. senators get to see exactly what those Democrat witnesses – that’s all they were: 17 Democrat witnesses – what they had to say, in full.

“Because, what they had to say – in full – is on our side.”

The MSM won't like this. Their credibility is already compromised. The Democrats will be exposed as liars and conspirators . That same MSM will disagree.
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/trump-impeachment-attorney-its-not-rebuttal-were-going-attack#disqus_thread
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 07:00 pm
@farmerman,
You're actually paying attention to that nonsense?? It's your time that's being wasted I guess.

None of those facts leads to an offense justifying removal from office, so it really doesn't matter whether they are in dispute or not.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 24 Jan, 2020 07:55 pm
Quote:
What Now? MSNBC: Schiff Is Like Atticus Finch, Billy Joel, Prince, AND Springsteen!

Who can listen to this without laughing?
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2020/01/24/what-now-msnbc-schiff-atticus-finch-billy-joel-prince-and
Builder
 
  1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:40 am
@coldjoint,
I'm struggling to recall a more vomit-worthy collection of meaningless invective.

Bring on the impeachment. Stop dragging this **** out.

Schiff is as guilty as sin, along with all of his colleagues.

Maybe Pelosi didn't know what they were all up to, because she took her sweet time going through with their plans, but she has to (now) be in collusion with them.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:49 am
@Builder,
Quote:
Bring on the impeachment. Stop dragging this **** out.

It will be interesting when the information Democrats omitted is shown. The Dems my want it over with sooner than they think. And how will the media spin it?
Builder
 
  0  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 12:57 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
And how will the media spin it?


Notice how quiet the hacks are here? Same same.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 06:47 am
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Canberra, Australia - Australia's worst-ever bushfires have thrust climate change into the political spotlight, but one of the country's most powerful media conglomerates continues to deny the links between extreme weather events and climate change: Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

On January 2, following weeks of horrific losses and fatalities, newspapers around the world put Australia's bushfires on their front pages.

But in Australia, The Australian - News Corp's flagship newspaper - dedicated its front page to a photo of a new year's day picnic, and its tabloid Herald Sun relegated the story to page four.

At that point, eight people had died in the bushfires, mass evacuations were underway from Victoria's East Gippsland region, and the New South Wales (NSW) south coast had seen whole villages wiped out.

It is now believed that 28 people have died in the bushfires across three states since September 2019. More than a billion animals have been killed, over 2,000 houses lost, and at least 10 million hectares (24.7 million acres) burnt.

News Corp's newspapers account for 60 percent of Australia's newspaper sales.

The company also owns some of the world's most influential television channels, including Sky News in Australia and the UK and Fox News in the US. Fox News is US President Donald Trump's favoured television station.

Murdoch's papers in Australia are known for their conservatism, and their columnists frequently rage about the threat posed to the country by immigration, Muslims, and increasing recognition of LGBTQ rights.

The Australian's associate editor once said that climate change was "not the era's burning issue", and the paper published an article that argued climate change activists were "global catastrophists" and part of a "socialist plot".

The Australian public is largely in support of taking more action on climate change.

According to the 2019 Climate of the Nation survey, 61 per cent of Australians believe that climate change is caused by humans and 64 per cent think the country should have a national target for net zero emissions by 2050.

"There is already a strong, broad sentiment in Australia about the increasing importance of reducing emissions," science communicator Ketan Joshi told Al Jazeera earlier this month.

Even James Murdoch, the younger son of the 88-year-old media mogul, publicly criticised News Corp and Fox Corporation's coverage of climate change this week via a statement with his wife.

James Murdoch is the former CEO of 21st Century Fox and currently sits on the News Corp board of directors.

"[James and Kathryn Murdoch] are particularly disappointed with the ongoing denial of the role of climate change among the news outlets in Australia, given obvious evidence to the contrary," the spokesperson said.

Journalism academic and media expert Margaret Simons believes it is significant that the younger Murdoch has spoken out.

"It's rare that the Murdoch family criticise each other in public," she told Al Jazeera. "The fact that the came out so strongly is significant and sent a bit of a shockwave through News Corp in Australia."

Susan Forde, journalism professor at Griffith University in Brisbane, said News Corp has always been "very conservative on climate change."

"There are many people out there - and we know this from the 2019 federal election - who are very ill-informed," she explained.

"They are reading this content and believing it, and they agree with Murdoch that we should be focusing on creating more jobs."

Earlier this month, a News Corp finance manager sent an incendiary email as she resigned that was addressed to chairman Michael Miller and copied to all staff.

"I find it unconscionable to continue working for this company, knowing I am contributing to the spread of climate change denial and lies," the woman wrote.

She described the news reports that came out of The Australian, The Daily Telegraph and Herald Sun as "irresponsible" and "dangerous".

The email was reportedly removed from staff inboxes within an hour.

Faced with increasing criticism, The Australian published an editorial on 11 January, denying that it misrepresented the facts on climate change.

"The evidence of global warming since the Industrial Revolution is clear," the editorial said, before going on to blame "progressive elites" for overlooking "the hard work of persuasion and coalition-building" that is needed on climate change.

News Corp did not respond to requests for comment from Al Jazeera.

Forde of Griffith University has conducted research on media coverage of climate change. She said one problem at News Corp is that its media outlets do not take the reality of climate change as their starting point.

"We tend to think that everything is up to editors, but this is clearly not true. The tone set by the owners of media organisations does in fact have a big impact on content," she said.

Former News Corp journalists have also gone on the record about climate change coverage.

In 2019, Rick Morton, at the time employed by The Australian, said "We kind of know what the editorial line is at the paper… It's not always a Murdoch line; it's just that Murdoch hires editors who are very much like him."

Simons. the journalism academic, predicts that the longer the debate continues, there will be more resignations from News Corp journalists.

"Some of the Australian's best journalists have been leaving [News Corp] in the last 18 months and some have been very vocal about the reasons why," she said.

"For any journalist who is early on in their career, they'd have to ask themselves whether they really want to belong to an organisation which is not contributing to a positive fashion to the defining debate of our times."

"It will become harder for News Corp to get good journalists to work for them, and this will change the culture."

There have long been concerns about the Murdoch empire's domination of the Australian media, which led to a government inquiry in 2011, after a phone hacking scandal at the Murdoch-owned News of the World in the UK.

The review found that existing self-regulation mechanisms were insufficient to ensure accountability by media outlets, and recommended that a News Media Council be established to set journalistic standards.

"No-one else is publishing work like News Corp," Forde explained. "They argue that it's under the guise of 'we're the only ones who are balancing the reporting'."

"It's part of their political and ideological narrative that natural disasters like bushfires have always happened, and if they admit they're out of the ordinary, then they're accepting that climate change is real. So they play it down and employ [writers with] quite extreme views."

With Australia's largest activist group GetUp! launching a new anti-Murdoch campaign, asking advertisers to pull out of News Corp, Forde believes that people are slowly becoming more aware of Murdoch's influence.

"More people are talking about the 'Murdochracy' and the significant impact that he and his organisations are having on debate, as well as the diversity of public debate and the spreading of false information," she said.

Change will probably require an economic threat to Murdoch's outlets, however.

"Editorial positions would need to change for their views to change, and the direction needs to come from Rupert or Lachlan Murdoch themselves," Forde concluded. "They would need to see that they're losing readers, advertisers or shareholders as a result of their current views for there to be a shift."

Simons agrees change will take time. "There was a reshuffle of editors in late 2019, but there has been no sign of an appetite for cultural change," she said.

"If anything, it was a reinforcement of the existing culture."


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/murdochracy-controls-climate-debate-australia-200124052356203.html
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 25 Jan, 2020 07:21 am
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Baghdad, Iraq - Security forces have pushed closer to Baghdad's Tahrir Square, the main anti-government protest camp in Iraq's capital, reopening several roads that were previously shut down by demonstrators demanding reforms and an overhaul of the country's political system.

At around noon local time on Saturday, security forces fired tear gas and live bullets at Khilani Square, a few hundred metres away from Tahrir Square, medics said. According to several witnesses and medics, riot police also set fire to a number of protest tents on the nearby Sinak Bridge, sending a column of thick black smoke into the sky.

There were no official reports of casualties, although medics confirmed that several protesters were wounded.

"I just arrived to Tahrir Square with my friends and everyone is telling us to go back because the situation is getting dangerous," Qamar Imad, a 17-year-old girl told Al Jazeera. "But we won't leave Tahrir because it is ours. The sound of bullets will only strengthen our resolve."

The developments came after people believed to be supporters of powerful Shia leader Moqtada al-Sadr began packing up their tents and leaving sit-ins in central Baghdad.

Al-Sadr, who was behind a mass protest on Friday in a different area in the capital calling for the departure of US troops from Iraq, issued a statement on Twitter expressing his "disappointment" in anti-government protesters who had accused his rally of being pro-government.

"From now on I will not interfere in these [anti-government] protesters' affairs neither in a negative nor positive way," said al-Sadr, who also heads the biggest bloc in Parliament.

Many observers saw his initial support for the anti-government protest movement - who have been calling for the removal of Iraq's ruling elite since October - as a form of protecting demonstrators from pro-Iran militias.

Some protesters in Tahrir Square blamed Saturday's violence on al-Sadr's decision to no longer be involved in the protest movement.

However, one al-Sadr supporter refuted this, saying that although some of the Shia leader's supporters had left Tahrir, the majority of his followers were still present.

"Al-Sadr did not order us in his statement to withdraw from the protests," 24-year-old law student Durgham Hamid told Al Jazeera. "He was merely expressing his disappointment in those in Tahrir Square who have been criticising him and his motives," Hamid added.

"We are still here at the sit-ins, and we will not leave until our demands have been met, contrary to what other protesters have been saying," he continued. "We are one people and stand together united."

High tensions
Separately, a statement from the Baghdad Operations Command said that key squares and roads that had previously been a focal point for protesters were reopened for vehicle access.

The vital Mohammed al-Qasim highway, Tayaran Square and al-Nidhal street were all reopened, in addition to Ahrar Bridge, which had been partly occupied by protesters in a standoff with security forces.

However, protesters continue to occupy Jumhuriya and Sinak bridges, which lead to the heavily fortified Green Zone.

Meanwhile, tension in Tahrir Square remained high, with people responding to it in different way: A man with his eyes shut was lip syncing to a nationalistic song blaring out from his tent, just as a group of men carrying a crate full of Molotov cocktails ran past him. At one edge of the square, a group of medics huddled together, keeping a wary eye in the direction of Khilani, while next to them a young teenager was busy slicing up potatoes from an industrial-sized bag.

"We don't know if they will attack us in another hour or at night or tomorrow," one protester said, as he ducked out of his tent wearing a bulletproof vest and fastening on a helmet. "But we will defeat them, inshallah."

Medical and police sources said two protesters were killed on Friday night in central Baghdad: One was shot by a live round in his neck and the other was hit with a military-grade tear gas canister. At least 25 other protesters were wounded.

In the southern city of Basra, riot police set fire to a protest encampment in the central square shortly after midnight on Saturday.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/tensions-high-baghdad-riot-police-fire-tear-gas-live-fire-200125115913053.html
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