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glitterbag
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:10 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Journalists and Trump Allies Ukraine Ambassador Allegedly Targeted

This lady is not a credible source. She was up to her neck in this subversion.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/15/judicial-watch-releases-list-of-journalists-and-trump-allies-ukraine-ambassador-targeted/


Coldjoint might be on to something. How long will it take before a story pops up that the Ambassador was the one planning a coup and all the surveillance was necessary to keep Trumps grandchildren safe. Seconds from now the previous sentence will show up as 'a fact' on some nutbag ultra right wing blog.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:18 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
the Ambassador

Is a corrupt Obama suck puppy. Nothing more than that.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:39 pm
@coldjoint,
Exactly why are you equating her 23 years of service PRIOR to Obama as "corrupt"? Or even AFTER?


Yovanovitch joined the U.S. Foreign Service in 1986. Her first foreign assignment, in Ottawa, was followed by overseas assignments including Moscow, London, and Mogadishu. From May 1998 to May 2000 she served as the Deputy Director of the Russian Desk in the U.S. Department of State.[13]

From August 2001 to June 2004, as a career member of the Senior Foreign Service, she was the Deputy Chief of Mission of the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, Ukraine.[14] From August 2004 to May 2005 she was the senior advisor to the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.[15] Yovanovitch also served as International Advisor and Deputy Commandant at the National Defense University's Dwight D. Eisenhower School for National Security and Resource Strategy and as dean of the School of Language Studies within the U.S. Department of State's Foreign Service Institute.[15]

U.S. Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan and Armenia and subsequent service
Yovanovitch is "well known in diplomatic circles for her measured demeanor and diligence in representing both Republican and Democratic administrations."[16] Yovanovitch was appointed U.S. Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan on November 20, 2004; she presented her credentials on February 4, 2005, and remained in this post until February 4, 2008.[1][17] Her nomination as ambassador to Kyrgyzstan was confirmed by the Senate on a voice vote.[18]

Yovanovitch was appointed U.S. Ambassador to Armenia on August 4, 2008; she presented her credentials on September 22, 2008, and remained in this post until June 9, 2011.[17] Her nomination as ambassador to Armenia was again confirmed by the Senate on a voice vote.[19] During confirmation hearings, Yovanovitch acknowledged that Turks had committed mass killings, rapes, and expulsions of Armenians between 1915 and 1923, calling this "one of the greatest tragedies of the 20th century," but, in line with U.S. policy, declined to use the phrase Armenian Genocide, saying that the use of this politically sensitive phrase was a policy decision that could be made only by the highest-ranking U.S. officials, namely President George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.[20]

While in Armenia, Yovanovitch oversaw a staff of almost 400 Americans and Armenians in one of the largest embassy compounds in the world.[21] She pushed Armenian authorities to give fair treatment to Armenians arrested in post-election protests in 2008.[16] Yovanovitch received the Secretary's Diplomacy in Human Rights Award,[15] a department award honoring ambassadors who demonstrate "extraordinary commitment to defending human rights."[16] She was also known for her work supporting democratic development and the advancement of women.[22]

After returning to Washington in 2012 and 2013, Yovanovitch served as Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs.[4] In that position, Yovanovitch was a key State Department headquarters contact for U.S. diplomats in Europe, working with, among others, U.S. Ambassador to Poland Lee Feinstein, regarding issues such as U.S. missile defense in Poland.[16] Yovanovitch received the department's Senior Foreign Service Performance Award six times and the Superior Honor Award five times.[15] She was promoted to the rank of Career Minister in 2016.[23]

U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine
Yovanovitch was announced as the nominee for U.S. ambassador to Ukraine on May 18, 2016, to replace Geoff Pyatt;[24] the nomination was sent to the Senate the next day, and confirmed by voice vote of the Senate on July 14, 2016.[25] Having been sworn in on August 12, Yovanovitch arrived in Ukraine on August 22[26] and presented her credentials on August 29, 2016.[1]

Anti-corruption work and other activities
Yovanovitch was respected within the national security community for her efforts to encourage Ukraine to tackle corruption,[27] and during her tenure had sought to strengthen the Ukrainian National Anti-Corruption Bureau, which had been created to bolster efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine; these efforts earned Yovanovitch some enemies within the country.[28] In a March 2019 speech to the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, Yovanovitch said that the Ukrainian government was not making sufficient progress to combat corruption, saying: "It is increasingly clear that Ukraine's once-in-a-generation opportunity for change has not yet resulted in the anti-corruption or rule of law reforms that Ukrainians expect or deserve."[29]
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:45 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group[1] that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct by government officials.

Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Presidency of Bill Clinton, the Presidency of Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. The organization has described climate science as "fraud science" and has filed lawsuits against government climate scientists. JW has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims that have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. Courts have dismissed the vast majority of its lawsuits.[1]
wikipedia
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:47 pm
@blatham,
Nonsense. Judicial Watch hassles Republican administrations too.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:57 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Exactly why are you equating her 23 years of service PRIOR to Obama as "corrupt"? Or even AFTER?

I do not care what she did for the last 23 years. It is obvious what she has done here after Obama.
neptuneblue
 
  3  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 06:58 pm
@coldjoint,
How so?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 07:01 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
How so?

Read the link.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 07:10 pm
@coldjoint,
SMDH.

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revelette3
 
  2  
Wed 15 Jan, 2020 08:37 pm
Well, I am watching the tail end of the Rachel show, I forgot about it until my sister reminded me, it seems that guy who was texting the crazy messages was a drunk and Parnas didn't take him seriously.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 06:38 am
Maybe this was the wrong-doing in Ukraine that Trump, America's anti-corruption avenging-angel, wished investigated
Quote:
Christopher Miller
@ChristopherJM
BREAKING: Ukraine's Interior Ministry announces criminal probe into alleged illegal surveillance of former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch after text messages released by House investigators showed Robert F. Hyde and Lev Parnas discussing her being tracked in Kyiv.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 06:45 am
Quote:
Greg Sargent
@ThePlumLineGS

Newly released texts suggest @SecPompeo may have been more deeply involved in the effort to oust Marie Yovanovitch than previously known.

Remember, Giuliani was trying to remove her to clear the way for Trump's corrupt Ukraine extortion plot to proceed:

https://washingtonpost.com/politics/parnas-used-access-to-trumps-world-to-help-push-shadow-ukraine-effort-new-documents-show/2020/01/15/f350dd78-37f1-11ea-bf30-ad313e4ec754_story.html


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOZekbmX0AI_tW1?format=jpg&name=900x900
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 06:49 am
Smallest surprise in the history of surprises

Quote:
Lev Parnas, an indicted ex-associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Wednesday night that he had met Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) “several times,” adding that Nunes and his aide Derek Harvey were involved in digging up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden. Asked if it struck him as unusual that Nunes, the House Intelligence Committee ranking member, was one of the leaders in the impeachment inquiry, Parnas said he “was in shock” since Nunes and Harvey “were involved in getting all this stuff on Biden.”
DB
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 06:55 am
Correction to above... THIS is the smallest prize in the history of surprises
Quote:
John Whitehouse
@existentialfish
· 31m
Fox & Friends finally covers the Lev Parnas story finally, but only for less than a minute, and only claiming only that his story undercuts the story of Democrats.

(There's no mention of the many other WhatsApp messages)
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McGentrix
 
  0  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:08 am
@blatham,
The reason this is all a bunch of BS is that ambassadors work at the whim of the President. He doesn't need a reason to oust an ambassador. If he doesn't like the food they eat, GONE!

There is no plan needed to oust anyone that is an ambassador.
hightor
 
  3  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:20 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
He doesn't need a reason to oust an ambassador.

Then why all the cloak-and-dagger crap? Why spread rumors about her and criticize her past service? Why not just make an announcement thanking her for her service and install a replacement?
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:38 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
The reason this is all a bunch of BS is that ambassadors work at the whim of the President. He doesn't need a reason to oust an ambassador. If he doesn't like the food they eat, GONE!
Let's lay out that proposition.

1) A president, any president, has powers
2) Because he has these powers, he can never abuse them. He/she could, for example, remove a sequence of appointed AGs for investigating actual personal financial corruption or criminality of that president and any subsequent moves to impeach would be, axiomatically, BS.

Quote:
There is no plan needed to oust anyone that is an ambassador.
Odd then that such planning is clearly in evidence
Quote:
Rudy Giuliani said removing the US ambassador to Ukraine was a key part of his effort to dig up dirt on Democrats on behalf of his client, President Donald Trump, according to a new interview with the President's personal lawyer in The New Yorker.
CNN
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:52 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Let's lay out that proposition.
1) A president, any president, has powers
2) Because he has these powers, he can never abuse them. He/she could, for example, remove a sequence of appointed AGs for investigating actual personal financial corruption or criminality of that president and any subsequent moves to impeach would be, axiomatically, BS.

Hey, you finally said something that is accurate!

You should start pointing at the conservative posters of a2k when you say "I think what those guys over there think."
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engineer
 
  3  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:54 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

The reason this is all a bunch of BS is that ambassadors work at the whim of the President. He doesn't need a reason to oust an ambassador. If he doesn't like the food they eat, GONE!

Are you saying that if someone were to offer the President a large financial bribe to fire an ambassador and he did it, that is legal because the ambassador works for the President?
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 16 Jan, 2020 07:58 am
Quote:
Lev Parnas, Key Player in Ukraine Affair, Completes Break With Trump and Giuliani
In an interview, he said the president knew everything about the effort to push Ukraine to investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election.

Lev Parnas, the Soviet-born businessman who played a central role in the campaign to pressure Ukraine to investigate political rivals of President Trump, completed his break with the White House on Wednesday, asserting for the first time in public that the president was fully aware of the efforts to dig up damaging information on his behalf.

In an interview with The New York Times on the day the House transmitted articles of impeachment against Mr. Trump to the Senate, Mr. Parnas also expressed regret for having trusted Mr. Trump and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer and the architect of the Ukraine pressure campaign. His lawyer said he was eager to cooperate with federal prosecutors investigating Mr. Giuliani...
NYT
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