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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 02:48 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Really? I'd thought, the Guardian and the Washington Post won the Pulitzer prize for NSA revelations.(Source)
That's more accurate. But I don't begrudge the working reporters behind the story for accepting credit here.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 02:53 pm
@georgeob1,
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It appears that what might have started as TDS among "Democrats" has degenerated into fairly savage infighting between the new left and Establishment wings of the Democrat Party.
There certainly is some element of this ongoing. But do note how insular Lash's voice is and how little respect it garners.
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revelette3
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 02:53 pm
@Lash,
Most of the young progressives are too young to been around back when democrats had unions and such, which btw, most established democrats support as well any progressives. No, they are coming in with extreme ideas and an intolerant attitude which stinks and is not supported by a majority of the party they say they belong to. If they don't like the democrats of today, form your own party for goodness sake and quit using established DNC resources while dissing it and knocking it down which only goes to give republicans the vote.
blatham
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:02 pm
@BillW,
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Bernie, you really don't have to defend yourself to me.
Understood. I was really pointing to her second repetition of "low information blatham" as a phrase. WTF. Is she trying to create a meme? Does she imagine it might catch on? Does she think her phrase will convince someone? Is she just enjoying spewing more bile?
BillW
 
  0  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:06 pm
@blatham,
I really believe she is a true tRumper in Sander clothing?
revelette3
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:11 pm
@blatham,
No, she merely substituted words for a Trump name calling tactic. "Low energy Jeb"
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revelette3
 
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Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:13 pm
@BillW,
I thought so at first, but, I come to believe she is a new progressive. If I remember her right before her "change" she was more of a social liberal than her republican allies were. She has just held on to her previous "hate Clinton/democrats" meme as a new progressive.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:16 pm
@revelette3,
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Most of the young progressives are too young to been around back when democrats had unions and such, which btw, most established democrats support as well any progressives.
It wouldn't surprise me if AOC had gotten herself educated on the history of the union movement and on how business interests have managed quite successfully to eviscerate union membership and political strength. But assuming so, she'd be something of a rarity in her age group. Even Lash, much older, shows no evidence of knowing this stuff.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:42 pm
This is a valid observation/criticism
Quote:
emptywheel
@emptywheel
Take a step back and consider what it says abt the Democratic party that all its front-runners are septuagenarians, no person of color will be on the debate stage, but a billionaire will be.
hightor
 
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Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:54 pm
@blatham,
Decentralized sources of supplies and parts blunted the effectiveness of strikes in the big industries. Taft-Hartley, complacency, and (alas) corruption really wounded the unions. Closed shops fostered resentment. Right-to-work laws hampered organizing in the South. Higher wages across the board (as a result of previous union activity) combined with more enlightened workplace regulations eased the pain. Outright sabotage of the NLRB contributed to the ineffectiveness of existing labor laws.

Here's a measure which would help unionized workers — but it won't go anywhere in the Senate:

Major labor law overhaul sought by Maine lawmakers
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:54 pm
On FOX, Devin Nunes wonders aloud why the DOJ won't drop the case against Flynn.

We'll just note here the relevant detail that Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russian ambassador Kislyak.
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hightor
 
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Sat 11 Jan, 2020 03:56 pm
@blatham,
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This is a valid observation/criticism


I see it as implied criticism of the primary system. Too many candidates, too much gaming of the system, too expensive.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:03 pm
@hightor,
Yes. Not a simple issue. And turning things around would be, if it happens, almost certainly a project of significant proportions and which will face enormous opposition.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:05 pm
@hightor,
I think that's right.
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BillW
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:20 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

I thought so at first, but, I come to believe she is a new progressive. If I remember her right before her "change" she was more of a social liberal than her republican allies were. She has just held on to her previous "hate Clinton/democrats" meme as a new progressive.

My political theory is that the political spectrum isn't linear; ie, left-right. Instead it is circular with centrist/moderates at 6 o'clock, progressives at 3/9 and radicals at 12. Lash is not a progressive, she is a radical.

I don't believe Sanders is by any means a "radical". He would probably be at 2. tRump is flat out 11:59 and Lash can easily fluctuate from 11:58 to 12:02 as her heart desires.
roger
 
  1  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:40 pm
@Builder,
No problem. I know people UP her who also don't know which way is up.
hightor
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:45 pm
It's worth revisiting some of the posts which followed the downing of the Ukrainian airliner. Everyone's so quick to explain "what really happened" and usually it ends up being "what didn't happen". Such an unseemly rush to judgment instead of waiting for the facts to emerge.

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@nargesbajoghli

When rumors first started yesterday about this, from Iranian opposition in CA w photos that couldn’t be geolocated, Reuters said western intel said no signs of Iran shooting down plan. Now Trump admin reversing course. Something fishy is going on. The poor families.


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'In Washington, U.S. officials briefing members of Congress on the current tension between the United States and Iran said there was no intelligence to indicate that the plane was shot down, according to a lawmaker at the briefing and who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the classified session. The briefers included Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and CIA Director Gina Haspel.'


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So, they missed all of their static targets with twelve missiles, but managed to take out a jetliner at cruise speed and altitude scoring two from two hits? The world isn't that stupid, but apparently many Americans want it to be true.


Plenty of stupidity to go around.

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Lash
 
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Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:49 pm
@revelette3,
That's about the size of it.

The way I feel about the Clintons was based on watching them over the past 30-so years. I hate other people too, if it makes anybody feel better...
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:54 pm
@blatham,
I do not care who trusts me. You're wasting pixels.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 11 Jan, 2020 04:54 pm
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In an interview with Fox News's Laura Ingraham, excerpts of which were released Friday afternoon, Trump expanded on comments from a day earlier, when he initially told reporters that Soleimani's forces "were looking to blow up our embassy" in Baghdad. He later said at a rally in Toledo that "Soleimani was actively planning new attacks, and he was looking very seriously at our embassies, and not just the embassy in Baghdad."

"Did [Soleimani] have large-scale attacks planned for other embassies?" Ingraham asked. "And if those were planned, why can't we reveal that to the American people? Wouldn't that help your case?"

"I can reveal that I believe it probably would've been four embassies," Trump said.


But...but... It looks like nobody bothered to alert those embassies.
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The embassy in Baghdad was not made aware of this, despite that being fairly standard protocol when a place is being threatened like that. You know, so people don't go to work and then die! Or so they can beef up their security! Something!

So either Trump is lying or he's not lying and just didn't feel it was at all necessary to warn the embassy in Baghdad, or the three other potential targets... which would actually be worse
. Here

I suppose one ought to allow for the possibility that Trump is not telling the truth. Shocking, I know.
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