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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 05:55 am
@MontereyJack,
It's no surprise that progressives are disappointed that America hasn't been harmed.
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blatham
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:19 am
@BillW,
Quote:
Looks like no American deaths. Hope this comes out to be factual.
It's possible but we have zero reason to trust Pentagon or administration voices in such situations. Ask the Tillman family. The Pentagon is not stupid in the area of PR/propaganda (forwarding lies and deceits as a means of keeping popular opinion onside). They've been working on this since Viet Nam.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:24 am
Iranian authorities have reportedly recovered the two black boxes from the Boeing 737 that crashed early on Wednesday. But it is not clear what will happen to them next.

Quote:
The head of Iran's civil aviation organisation was quoted as saying the Ukrainian plane's black box would not be handed over, either to Boeing or the Americans.

Ali Abedzadeh said Iran would lead the investigation but would allow Ukrainian investigators to be present, according to quotes carried on Mehr news agency.

Ukraine's foreign minister tweeted that he had spoken to his Iranian counterpart and had agreed the countries would coordinate their investigations.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-51029181
izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:31 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Terrorist group ISIS will likely be the winner as tensions between Washington and Tehran mount after the U.S. killing of Iran’s most powerful military commander, experts say.

Qasem Soleimani, head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard’s elite Quds Force, was killed in Baghdad last Friday in a U.S. airstrike directed by President Donald Trump.

The crisis sent tensions between the U.S and Iran rocketing and triggered retaliation threats from Tehran. It also raised questions about the future of American troops in Iraq.

“There is a winner here, and the winner is ISIS,” Dan Yergin, chairman of IHS Markit, told CNBC on Monday.

A U.S.-led coalition has been operating in Iraq to fight the notorious terrorist group, the self-declared Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. After the death of Soleimani, the coalition announced Sunday that it would be suspending most operations against ISIS, which once controlled large swathes of Iraq and Syria before allied intervention.

The U.S. and Iran, though adversaries, are mutual enemies of ISIS and effectively fought against ISIS to crush the terrorist group’s de facto state in Iraq and Syria.

“Because it was the unlikely coalition between the United States and Iran ... that pushed ISIS back. The U.S. forces leave — on the one hand, that’s good news for Iran ... but it’s also good news for ISIS,” he said. “ISIS which had seemed to be on its backfoot, there’s a new opening for it.”There’s a ‘diplomatic opportunity’ in the Middle East, says ex-US ambassador

Iraq’s parliament on Sunday passed a resolution calling for the government to expel foreign troops from the country. It came as the government in Baghdad accused Washington of violating its sovereignty.

Experts say that the Iraqi response is causing more uncertainty surrounding U.S. presence in the region.

“The assassination was such an extreme violation of Iraqi sovereignty — done unilaterally, without Iraqi government consent — that Iraqi officials will come under tremendous political pressure to eject U.S. forces,” said Ilan Goldenberg, director of the Middle East program at Washington-based Center for a New American Security, in an op-ed on Friday.

The U.S.-led coalition has now shifted its focus to protecting Iraqi bases from attack by Iranian-allied militias such as Kataib Hezbollah, according to an official statement from the coalition.

A viable U.S. presence in Iraq “remains an open question, said Goldenberg, who previously served as Iran team chief in the U.S. Office of the Under-Secretary of Defense for Policy, as well as Special Advisor on the Middle East, between 2009 to 2012.

“The security situation, which has certainly now been complicated, is not the only problem,” wrote Goldenberg.

Goldenberg warned that a “chaotic U.S. withdrawal under fire” could “present real dangers.” He also flagged the risk of hurting efforts to counter ISIS.

“The mission to counter ISIS remains a going concern, and if the United States is forced to leave Iraq, that effort could suffer a serious blow,” he wrote.

“ISIS retains an underground presence and could take advantage of the chaos of an American withdrawal or a U.S.-Iranian conflict to improve its position in Iraq,” Goldenberg warned.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/us-iran-crisis-isis-is-the-winner-in-death-of-qasem-soleimani.html<br />
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blatham
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:42 am
Quote:
Trump Is Running Hundreds Of Facebook Ads Praising Himself For The Killing Of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani

Within three days of the drone strike, the Trump campaign was using it to build support for his reelection.
BuzzFeed

Absolutely. It's what the Kardashians would do too.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:51 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Trump Is Running Hundreds Of Facebook Ads Praising Himself For The Killing Of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani

Within three days of the drone strike, the Trump campaign was using it to build support for his reelection.
BuzzFeed

Absolutely. It's what the Kardashians would do too.


Looks like more Russian propaganda to sow further distrust against the President. You wouldn't fall for that now would you?
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 07:56 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Looks like more Russian propaganda to sow further distrust against the President.
How does it look like that?

Quote:
You wouldn't fall for that now would you?
The notion that the Russians want someone other than Trump in the WH? No, I wouldn't fall for that.
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revelette3
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 08:23 am
Iranian Blood Is on Our Hands, Too
McGentrix
 
  0  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 08:32 am
@revelette3,
Geraldine comes off a bit as a terrorist sympathizer.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 09:00 am
@revelette3,
The downing of Flight 655 is entirely Iran's fault. If they had not been attacking us throughout the region, our warship would not have believed that they were under attack.
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 09:57 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENUsrXBW4AEwhlh?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENUsrXJWsAEIPHq?format=jpg&name=small

There are more of these.
coluber2001
 
  4  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 10:13 am
Trump is starting a war and that will bring people to his side. The old warhorse of changing the horse in the middle of the stream thing. Trump has wanted a war with Iran for a long time now, and that was the reason he withdrew from the nuclear treaty with Iran, and the reason he had General Qassem Soleimani assassinated. There is no way the Iranians could have avoided retaliation, and Trump will also retaliate and the escalation will bring us into a full-scale war. As soon as American troops start dying, we will hear the refrain, "We can't have these troops dying in vain".

Why does Trump want war with Iran? Why does a serial killer torture and murder? Sociopathy, psychopathy.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 10:18 am
@coluber2001,
What are you talking about? Mr. Trump isn't starting any war.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 10:34 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

What are you talking about? Mr. Trump isn't starting any war.



Sssshhhhh, let them have their wet dreams. It's fun watching them jump as Trump pulls their strings.
snood
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 10:39 am
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

Trump is starting a war and that will bring people to his side. The old warhorse of changing the horse in the middle of the stream thing. Trump has wanted a war with Iran for a long time now, and that was the reason he withdrew from the nuclear treaty with Iran, and the reason he had General Qassem Soleimani assassinated. There is no way the Iranians could have avoided retaliation, and Trump will also retaliate and the escalation will bring us into a full-scale war. As soon as American troops start dying, we will hear the refrain, "We can't have these troops dying in vain".

Why does Trump want war with Iran? Why does a serial killer torture and murder? Sociopathy, psychopathy.


I really think the push to war with Iran comes from Pompeo
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hightor
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 11:10 am
@McGentrix,
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Sssshhhhh, let them have their wet dreams.

Why do you need to be so coarse? Do you really think that there's a sexual component to speculation concerning the Trump administration's intentions in regard to Iran? If you do, you're stupid. If you don't, why use such tired and inaccurate terminology? Let them have their fantasies, let them have their silly conceits, let them indulge in their mistaken and ideologically suspect theories — why not use your brain instead of just firing off vulgar and erroneous cliches?
RABEL222
 
  3  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 11:21 am
@McGentrix,
Maybe she remembers the us removing an elected Iranian president and installing a king in his place. Its the reason Iran hates us.
izzythepush
 
  4  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 11:37 am
@hightor,
That's the NRA for you, they keep having wet dreams about Sandy Hooks and assume everyone else is a nonce.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 11:38 am
@RABEL222,
Iran removed their own elected president. The US only played a small role in their coup.
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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 8 Jan, 2020 12:02 pm
@RABEL222,
Notice that McGentrix doesn't cite a single statement where Brooks indicates any sympathy for terrorism. No, he just copies the administration's line where any questioning of our policy in the Mideast is tantamount to sympathizing with terrorists. It's an insult to any reader's intelligence.
 

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