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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 07:29 am
Voices From The Right: episode off the chart
Wake up, Republicans. Your party stands for all the wrong things now - Stuart Stevens

But what the hell would he know about the modern GOP, right?
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 07:45 am
Quote:
Netanyahu to ask Israeli parliament for immunity from criminal charges

JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced Wednesday that he would ask the Israeli parliament to grant him immunity in three criminal cases, tying up further the already lengthy legal proceedings against him in a political system that has been gripped by deadlock for the past year.
Netanyahu’s immunity request to the Knesset would shield him from prosecution at least while he remains in office. It also pitches the country’s political establishment against the legal system ahead of an unprecedented third general election in less than a year. That election is set for March 2.
WP

Those following this story will be aware that Netanyahu is using the same propagandist lines we see from Trump... "fake news", "coup attempt", "elites conspiring against me" (for Netanyahu, of all Israelis, to suggest he's the victim of an elite rather than being the thing itself is Goebbels worthy).
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 07:57 am
Quote:
One of the thorniest challenges of this moment is the difficulty of finding language adequate to capturing President Trump’s actual, openly stated positions. They are often so profoundly ridiculous or nakedly corrupt, or so audaciously saturated with bad faith, that we struggle to find ways to clearly convey what he’s genuinely telling us.

Case in point: Trump is now openly calling for his impeachment trial to be converted into something that is purely devoted to serving his own political needs — one that only includes witnesses that will help him keep smearing potential 2020 opponent Joe Biden, but have no meaningful relevance whatsoever to the corrupt conduct for which he has been impeached.

Incredibly, this comes as Senate Republicans push for a trial that features none of the witnesses who actually do have direct knowledge of that very same corrupt conduct.

The ones who actually fear witnesses are Senate GOP leaders, who are refusing Democratic demands for testimony from those with the most direct knowledge of Trump’s freezing of military aid to extort Ukraine into announcing an investigation of the Bidens. They are doing this to protect Trump — and themselves — because he’s guilty as charged, and they know it....
Greg Sargent
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hightor
 
  3  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 08:03 am
@farmerman,
I informed him of this in November when he misused the term:
Quote:
"Never Trumpers" refers, properly, to Republicans and conservatives who vowed to do all they could to prevent Trump's nomination and later, his presidency. They did not succeed, obviously, and the silly term has a sort of "flat earther" tinge to it. It should be reserved for use in its historical sense and not applied to current political opponents of Trump.

https://able2know.org/topic/355218-3844#post-6931097

But what do you expect from a character who doesn't believe we ever made it to the moon.
Builder wrote:
Anyone who thinks they landed that thing on the moon, and then dropped it back in the ocean of Earth, isn't too bright. 
*********************************************************
It's pretty funny that people still think this **** actually happened.

https://able2know.org/topic/355218-3613#post-6875483
farmerman
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 08:42 am
@hightor,
I know hes an Australian but he fits well in the GOP' newest "Big Tent" policy. Yepper, theyve created room fo all kinds.

Wonder how he feels about 9/11 ??
Brand X
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 09:29 am
Trump campaign says it raised $46 million 4th qtr. Had $158 million going into October.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 09:42 am
Quote:
This F#$%ing Decade
For years, media and political elites refused to acknowledge the growing racism and radicalism of the Republican party. Their “both-sidesism” led to Trump’s GOP takeover. Joan Walsh - Salon

I’ve always resisted the notion that new decades are news events, bestowed on us in pre-measured pallets of history to be analyzed later as self-contained units of meaning. But as we ring in 2020, it’s hard not to feel like we’ve been through an epoch we should pause to acknowledge. Being ornery, I’ll date it to 2009, and the beginning of Barack Obama’s presidency. However we count them off, we have to admit: These last 10 (or 11) years saw the rise of a sometimes violent right-wing American extremism, fueled by racism, and an even bigger story — the utter failure of political elites and mainstream media to figure out how to handle it.

I finally became convinced I had to write about this decade—or as I like to call it, “this f&$%ing decade”—when I read the Rolling Stone interview with Meet the Press host Chuck Todd that burned down the Internet just before Christmas. The decent person in me, who is withering to nothing given the lack of nutritive decency around us, wants to give Todd credit, however belated, for realizing the obvious: that the Trump administration, but more important, Republicans generally, have used his show to spread lies and then double down on them when caught, for a long time.

From Trump toady Kellyanne Conway’s mind-fracturing “alternative facts” defense in the first week of the administration, to alleged anti-Russia hawk Senator Ted Cruz inviting himself on Todd’s show to spout pro-Russia talking points nobody thinks he believes, just weeks ago, Todd is Patient Zero in terms of how the modern GOP has spread a fatal virus of lies. And now he says he knows it: “So I mean, look, if people want to read my answer to your question, ‘Boy, that Chuck Todd was hopelessly naive.’ Yeah, it looks pretty naive.”

Oh Chuck. I’m just not sure “naive” is the right word here. (Jay Rosen unpacks it better than I can.) Rosen and many more of us have been pointing out exactly what’s going on for (more than) a decade. Many of us have been at best ignored, at worst mocked, and sometimes threatened (ineffectually so far, at least when it comes to threats against me).

I had a strange spot from which to regularly witness this f&$%ing decade: cable news green rooms, tiny flash cam cubbies and convivial tables of televised political-panel chats; mostly on MSNBC, occasionally on Fox, and lately CNN. Once the euphoria of Obama’s inauguration subsided, it quickly became clear to at least a few of us that we were witnessing a profound racial backlash. In the early days of the anti-Obama Tea Party, journalists were required to say the uprising was about government spending run amok (I covered San Francisco’s first Tea Party event, on Tax Day 2009, and tried to give attendees the benefit of the doubt, though I couldn’t miss the guy demanding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi examine Obama’s birth certificate, an early “birther.”)

Fox News, always a site of white racial anxiety (remember when Barack and Michelle gave one another “terrorist fist jabs” during the 2008 campaign?) immediately became a clubhouse for white panic. Fox went from hyping the lame thuggery and purported voter intimidation of the tiny, impotent New Black Panther Party, to “exposing” some past controversial political views of Obama’s black “green jobs czar” Van Jones (which led to bipartisan demands for Jones to resign), to promoting doctored videos “showing” the black-led community empowerment group ACORN supposedly helped a “pimp” avoid paying taxes (which led to a bipartisan push to defund ACORN), to pushing another Andrew Breitbart (RIP) story that former NAACP leader Shirley Sherrod used a government job to discriminate against white farmers when the truth was the opposite (which led to bipartisan demands that Sherrod be fired).

Yes, my point is: Fox is evil, but it sometimes succeeded because Democrats are cowards, and utterly unprepared to fight evil enemies. Hosts like Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and the rising Sean Hannity regularly peddled those and other racial panic stories, while the mainstream media generally, and even leading Democrats, tried hard to avoid seeing what was happening.

Then there was the almost immediate uptick in political violence. In April, 2009, a Glenn Beck fan killed three police officers in Pittsburgh. In May, an anti-abortion terrorist murdered Dr. George Tiller in the Wichita church where he served as an usher. In June, an elderly white birther murdered a guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C. In August, anti-Obama protester William Kostric brought a loaded gun to a New Hampshire town hall meeting with Obama, and carried a sign referencing Thomas Jefferson’s famous credo, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots.” Folks in the media debated what Kostric was trying to say. (You can understand why I insisted on roping in 2009 into this decade.) But the political violence continues and has worsened—from Charleston to Charlottesville to Pittsburgh to El Paso—ever since.

I covered all of this, and I had the distinction of being mocked, at least twice, by the cable hosts I loved the most, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central. After I debated disgraced former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly in July 2009, over whether his violence-tinged rhetoric contributed to the climate that led an anti-abortion zealot to murder Dr. George Tiller, Stewart played our heated exchange and distilled it down to each of us saying the other had blood on their hands (admittedly not my finest moment), and mocking us with the zinger “No backsies!”

The fact that I got thousands of hateful emails and a few old fashioned snail-mail letters, some of them threatening harm to me and my daughter, while O’Reilly railed at me every night for almost a week from his top-rated multi-million-dollar Fox perch, didn’t figure in the sketch. We were simply “both sides.” It prefigured Donald Trump’s “many fine people, on both sides” after Charlottesville—but for laughs.

Maybe worse, I was apparently mocked at the stupendously awful “March to Restore Sanity” Stewart and Colbert sponsored in October 2010, for calling the people behind the uptick in political murder “gun nuts.” I say “apparently” because multiple people told me I was in some compilation video of the divisive people on “both sides,” the partisan “crazies” who needed to be called out so that bipartisan “sanity” could be restored, but I’ve never been able to find it online. Whether or not I was mocked doesn’t really matter; we know the “march” occurred, and was intended to promote nonpartisan solutions to the rising climate of hate. Which was mostly, can we now admit, coming from one side? But again, in this f&$%ing decade, criticizing “both sides” was apparently the only way to acknowledge the rot emanating from one side.

I’ve always resisted the notion that new decades are news events, bestowed on us in pre-measured pallets of history to be analyzed later as self-contained units of meaning. But as we ring in 2020, it’s hard not to feel like we’ve been through an epoch we should pause to acknowledge. Being ornery, I’ll date it to 2009, and the beginning of Barack Obama’s presidency. However we count them off, we have to admit: These last 10 (or 11) years saw the rise of a sometimes violent right-wing American extremism, fueled by racism, and an even bigger story — the utter failure of political elites and mainstream media to figure out how to handle it.

I finally became convinced I had to write about this decade—or as I like to call it, “this f&$%ing decade”—when I read the Rolling Stone interview with Meet the Press host Chuck Todd that burned down the Internet just before Christmas. The decent person in me, who is withering to nothing given the lack of nutritive decency around us, wants to give Todd credit, however belated, for realizing the obvious: that the Trump administration, but more important, Republicans generally, have used his show to spread lies and then double down on them when caught, for a long time.

From Trump toady Kellyanne Conway’s mind-fracturing “alternative facts” defense in the first week of the administration, to alleged anti-Russia hawk Senator Ted Cruz inviting himself on Todd’s show to spout pro-Russia talking points nobody thinks he believes, just weeks ago, Todd is Patient Zero in terms of how the modern GOP has spread a fatal virus of lies. And now he says he knows it: “So I mean, look, if people want to read my answer to your question, ‘Boy, that Chuck Todd was hopelessly naive.’ Yeah, it looks pretty naive.”

Oh Chuck. I’m just not sure “naive” is the right word here. (Jay Rosen unpacks it better than I can.) Rosen and many more of us have been pointing out exactly what’s going on for (more than) a decade. Many of us have been at best ignored, at worst mocked, and sometimes threatened (ineffectually so far, at least when it comes to threats against me).

I had a strange spot from which to regularly witness this f&$%ing decade: cable news green rooms, tiny flash cam cubbies and convivial tables of televised political-panel chats; mostly on MSNBC, occasionally on Fox, and lately CNN. Once the euphoria of Obama’s inauguration subsided, it quickly became clear to at least a few of us that we were witnessing a profound racial backlash. In the early days of the anti-Obama Tea Party, journalists were required to say the uprising was about government spending run amok (I covered San Francisco’s first Tea Party event, on Tax Day 2009, and tried to give attendees the benefit of the doubt, though I couldn’t miss the guy demanding House Speaker Nancy Pelosi examine Obama’s birth certificate, an early “birther.”)

Fox News, always a site of white racial anxiety (remember when Barack and Michelle gave one another “terrorist fist jabs” during the 2008 campaign?) immediately became a clubhouse for white panic. Fox went from hyping the lame thuggery and purported voter intimidation of the tiny, impotent New Black Panther Party, to “exposing” some past controversial political views of Obama’s black “green jobs czar” Van Jones (which led to bipartisan demands for Jones to resign), to promoting doctored videos “showing” the black-led community empowerment group ACORN supposedly helped a “pimp” avoid paying taxes (which led to a bipartisan push to defund ACORN), to pushing another Andrew Breitbart (RIP) story that former NAACP leader Shirley Sherrod used a government job to discriminate against white farmers when the truth was the opposite (which led to bipartisan demands that Sherrod be fired).

Yes, my point is: Fox is evil, but it sometimes succeeded because Democrats are cowards, and utterly unprepared to fight evil enemies. Hosts like Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and the rising Sean Hannity regularly peddled those and other racial panic stories, while the mainstream media generally, and even leading Democrats, tried hard to avoid seeing what was happening.

Then there was the almost immediate uptick in political violence. In April, 2009, a Glenn Beck fan killed three police officers in Pittsburgh. In May, an anti-abortion terrorist murdered Dr. George Tiller in the Wichita church where he served as an usher. In June, an elderly white birther murdered a guard at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C. In August, anti-Obama protester William Kostric brought a loaded gun to a New Hampshire town hall meeting with Obama, and carried a sign referencing Thomas Jefferson’s famous credo, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots.” Folks in the media debated what Kostric was trying to say. (You can understand why I insisted on roping in 2009 into this decade.) But the political violence continues and has worsened—from Charleston to Charlottesville to Pittsburgh to El Paso—ever since.

I covered all of this, and I had the distinction of being mocked, at least twice, by the cable hosts I loved the most, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central. After I debated disgraced former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly in July 2009, over whether his violence-tinged rhetoric contributed to the climate that led an anti-abortion zealot to murder Dr. George Tiller, Stewart played our heated exchange and distilled it down to each of us saying the other had blood on their hands (admittedly not my finest moment), and mocking us with the zinger “No backsies!”

The fact that I got thousands of hateful emails and a few old fashioned snail-mail letters, some of them threatening harm to me and my daughter, while O’Reilly railed at me every night for almost a week from his top-rated multi-million-dollar Fox perch, didn’t figure in the sketch. We were simply “both sides.” It prefigured Donald Trump’s “many fine people, on both sides” after Charlottesville—but for laughs.

Maybe worse, I was apparently mocked at the stupendously awful “March to Restore Sanity” Stewart and Colbert sponsored in October 2010, for calling the people behind the uptick in political murder “gun nuts.” I say “apparently” because multiple people told me I was in some compilation video of the divisive people on “both sides,” the partisan “crazies” who needed to be called out so that bipartisan “sanity” could be restored, but I’ve never been able to find it online. Whether or not I was mocked doesn’t really matter; we know the “march” occurred, and was intended to promote nonpartisan solutions to the rising climate of hate. Which was mostly, can we now admit, coming from one side? But again, in this f&$%ing decade, criticizing “both sides” was apparently the only way to acknowledge the rot emanating from one side.

But I didn’t only face this on Fox or, occasionally, from folks I admired on Comedy Central. I ran up against it sometimes on MSNBC too. On “Hardball,” longtime political analyst Pat Buchanan regularly attacked me as an elitist for deriding the racism of the growing Tea Party, even as he recognized them as the descendants of the George Wallace voters he’d welcomed into the GOP four decades earlier. The first time he did it, I was gob-smacked, thinking I’d won the debate. But new rules, put into place under Obama, meant you couldn’t even dismiss George Wallace voters as racist anymore. Back-dated by Buchanan, and a precursor to the right’s Trump analysis, the Wallace voters’ problem was merely “economic anxiety” combined with resentment that “elites” like me didn’t like them. Never mind that Buchanan came from a wealthy Washington D.C. family and I grew up a working-class New Yorker....
(quite a bit more at link)

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izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 09:51 am
@farmerman,
Lord only knows, he's also called the Saudi crown prince a Jew, so I really don't want to think about his particular brand of bigoted ignorance.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 09:56 am
I rewatched Spielbert's "The Post" last night. It's the story of the dilemma faced by the NYT and the Washington Post after Daniel Ellsberg passed along top secret details of Pentagon studies of America's war in Vietnam. It's very well crafted and acted.

But what really hit home was
1) the courage of those involved in the whistleblower effort and in the decisions to publish
2) how eerily similar Nixon's behaviors were to what Trump and his people are up to now.

Definitely worth watching if you haven't or even if you have.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 10:28 am
For those, who think that this thread is about Clinton:

Hillary Clinton becomes chancellor of Belfast’s Queen’s University. She is the first woman to be appointed in this role, which will last five years.
Clinton will act as an advisor to the vice chancellor Professor Ian Greer and senior management as part of it.
She will also preside at most graduation ceremonies and be an ambassador for the university overseas.

Hillary Clinton named as new Chancellor of Queen's University
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 12:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Well deserved considering the vital role Bill played in the peace process. Let's hope it lasts.

Frankie Boyle said that while he was on holiday in Derry someone came up to him and said if Boris tried building any barriers they would "bomb them to ****." When Frankie asked what he did he said he was a lecturer in archaeology, so that's the intelligentsia's outlook.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 12:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Hillary Clinton becomes chancellor of Belfast’s Queen’s University.

She paid to get that position with a very sizable donation. End of story.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 12:30 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Well deserved considering the vital role Bill played in the peace process.

You have the wrong peace, Bill spells his "piece"
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 12:40 pm
Quote:
We fixed the NY Times article about the darkest days for ‘journalists’

Quote:
The Times’ article focused on President Trump using his “fake news” term 273 times in 2019, noting that this number is 50% more than in 2018. This was one of the multiple reasons why 2019 was alleged to be “the darkest yet for journalists in the Trump era,” according to the Times.

“Mr. Trump’s vilification of the news media is a hallmark of his tenure and a jagged break from the norms of his predecessors: Once a global champion of the free press, the presidency has become an inspiration to autocrats and dictators who ape Mr. Trump’s cry of ‘fake news,’” the New York Times article says.

Ironically, the NYT article itself is fake news. It was the Obama administration’s entire reign that threatened the free press, although our press is not exactly free. They are simply leftist parrots.

The NYT has no political credibility left.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/we-fixed-the-ny-times-article-about-the-darkest-days-for-journalists/
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 12:45 pm
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/01-keep-digging-li-600-600x429.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  2  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 01:01 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Those following this story will be aware that Netanyahu is using the same propagandist lines we see from Trump... "fake news", "coup attempt",

Trump is telling the truth. Netanyahu probably is too. It has been proven who the liars are in Trump's case. And more proof is coming.

It has also been determined who lies and spreads propaganda in this thread. Guess who that is?

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izzythepush
 
  0  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 01:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Frankie Boyle said that while he was on holiday in Derry someone came up to him and said if Boris tried building any barriers they would "bomb them to ****." When Frankie asked what he did he said he was a lecturer in archaeology, so that's the intelligentsia's outlook.


For anyone unfamiliar with Frankie Boyle's comic genius.

neptuneblue
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 01:11 pm
@coldjoint,
In as much as using "Independent Sentinel dot com" as a credible news source, I think you also skew the meaning of "fake news." Trump uses the phrase to denigrate any news source he doesn't agree with and you fall right in line with that.

With opinions running the gambit, even your credited source doesn't report news, it states extreme right wing crapola. For instance, why is Obama even mentioned here? To garner some sort of emotional response that ooo, Obama bad, Trump good mentality?

Snort.

Whatevs.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 01:30 pm
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
why is Obama even mentioned here? To garner some sort of emotional response that ooo, Obama bad, Trump good mentality?

Obama is mentioned because of the projection tactic the Left employs. You accuse Trump of the things Obama actually did. Also who do you compare presidents to than other presidents? Try again.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jan, 2020 01:32 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
For anyone unfamiliar with Frankie Boyle's comic genius.

I did not watch, but did he touch on gang rapes and grooming gangs still prevalent in the UK? Some people seem to think it is funny.
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