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coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 04:09 pm
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The Washington Examiner reported:

When former National Security Council official Fiona Hill testifed before the House Intelligence Committee, she said that she could not remember the name of the Ukraine director when she joined the White House.

That person was Eric Ciaramella, the career CIA analyst who is alleged to be the Ukraine whistleblower.

Hill was White House NSC senior director for European and Russian affairs, a position Ciaramella held in an acting capacity while still Ukraine director, for a brief period immediately before she took the post.

Ciaramella, 33, is now a deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia on the National Intelligence Council under President Trump’s director of national intelligence, the Washington Examiner previously reported.

Someone here was touting Hill's memory. What happened?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/schifty-schiffs-star-witness-fiona-hill-received-steele-dossier-the-day-before-it-came-out/
Builder
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 04:35 pm
@coldjoint,
These neverTrumpers seem completely uninterested in discussing DNC criminality or collusion attempts.

It's like a horse with the blinders on, staring straight ahead, never looking at anything other than impeachment, which, as stated before it started, and just yesterday, will come down to a senate vote/hearing, and we all know how that's gonna pan out, right?
hightor
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 04:52 pm
@Builder,
"Never Trumpers" refers, properly, to Republicans and conservatives who vowed to do all they could to prevent Trump's nomination and later, his presidency. They did not succeed, obviously, and the silly term has a sort of "flat earther" tinge to it. It should be reserved for use in its historical sense and not applied to current political opponents of Trump.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 04:56 pm
@Builder,
They seem to be serious. As long as it turns public opinion against them it is fine with me. I do not trust Romney and if the Senate gives Trump trouble Romney would be the source.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 04:58 pm
@hightor,
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It should be reserved for use in its historical sense and not applied to current political opponents of Trump.

Telling people what they should say does not work to well. At least that has been my experience.
Builder
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 05:11 pm
@coldjoint,
Hi has a very high opinion of himself, and his moniker itself indicates that.

His cheer squad here are laughably dog-piling most of his crap, and upticking his ego.

More on the fraudulent FISA situation.

coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 05:35 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
Hi has a very high opinion of himself, and his moniker itself indicates that.

His cheer squad here are laughably dog-piling most of his crap, and upticking his ego.

Someone would think you were talking about Trump. Life's a bitch and then you die. Remember that IG is still an Obama appointee and will do as little harm as possible. I hope Durham picks up the slack.
Builder
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 05:57 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Someone would think you were talking about Trump.


Oh, the irony. Chuckles.

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Remember that IG is still an Obama appointee and will do as little harm as possible.


The depth and breadth of this "swamp" is beyond the scope of most people here. That old cognitive dissonance again.

Most thought Obama was the Messiah, after the Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeldt years.

Nobody likes to realise how wrong they were.
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Brand X
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 06:29 pm
@Builder,
I think Hannity or Limbaugh told Trump that if he could crack the 2016 election/Biden case that would open the door to frog-march Hillary, Obama, Podesta et al to prison.

Brand X
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 06:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Bolton could be the one that swings senate R's to the impeachment side. He's itching to clean his claws.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 06:36 pm
@Brand X,
If Bolton sticks his nose in. I think he knows this is not fair. Personally I think that might mean something to him. He also might know what this will do to future presidents if they succeed.
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snood
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 06:37 pm
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:

Bolton could be the one that swings senate R's to the impeachment side. He's itching to clean his claws.


What makes you think his motivation is anything more noble than book sales?
Brand X
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 07:25 pm
@snood,
Trump was holding up his war for a 'drug deal'. Bolton doesn't like to have his wars squelched.
snood
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 07:33 pm
@Brand X,
Well, I hope you’re right. But the one thing that hairy lipped bastard might love better than war is money
oralloy
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 07:33 pm
@Brand X,
I think Mr. Bolton would make a fine president or secretary of state.

But, nothing that Mr. Bolton could say can change the reality that there is nothing untoward or illegal about the acts that Mr. Trump is being accused of.
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Builder
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 09:46 pm
@Brand X,
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I think Hannity or Limbaugh told Trump that if he could crack the 2016 election/Biden case that would open the door to frog-march Hillary, Obama, Podesta et al to prison.


Which begs the question; why is that up to the incoming president? Unless the FBI/CIA and DOJ is, as has been suggested, part of the collusion attempt to ensure HRC's ascension, post Obama.

It's been the accepted process for the incoming prez to pardon the crimes of his predecessors, but again, that's not the ticket he won the election on.

Trump even suggested that Clinton would be in prison, if the truth of her SoC activities were to become public knowledge.

Interesting ball-game we have here. January 2020 before we really see where this is going.

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glitterbag
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 10:09 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Well, I hope you’re right. But the one thing that hairy lipped bastard might love better than war is money


and attention, he loves the attention. But money, for a lot of these craven asshats, is the true prize.
coldjoint
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 10:14 pm
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House Democrats rebuke State Department for 'reversal' on Israeli settlements

There you go. There is the problem. The State Department does not make foreign policy. They carry it out. Democrats need to rebuke Trump, not railroad him.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/471653-house-democrats-rebuke-state-department-for-reversal-on-israeli
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Builder
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 10:28 pm
@glitterbag,
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But money, for a lot of these craven asshats, is the true prize.


Sounds like you live in an old workboot, and grow your own tucker, GB.

https://m0.her.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/05164541/a957cab94097638e9604fef230c3147c-1024x774.jpg
snood
 
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Sat 23 Nov, 2019 11:32 pm
@Builder,
Yeah because of course anyone who thinks that it should be more important to Bolton to be true to his oath and tell the truth to Congress than to sell his truth to the highest bidder, then they’re just crazy and should live in a shoe.

Makes the same amount of sense as everything else you shovel here.
 

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