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coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 08:16 pm
@Builder,
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Hypocrisy much?

Stupidity is more like it. If they actually believe there is not, or was not an organized illegal effort to get Trump. An effort from the top down by arrogant elites and their not so useful idiots. They include the MSM, corrupted law enforcement and intelligence agencies. And the social media mob.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 08:36 pm
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Christianity Today Editor-in-Chief Who Called for Trump’s Removal Is Now Looking for a New Job

Just another hack trying to cash in.
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Friends of Galli said he is writing a book. Galli has come under fire for calling for Trump’s removal from office and then going on the television news circuit to trumpet his disdain for Trump.

What a surprise. Just in time for a book tour.

https://truepundit.com/christianity-today-editor-in-chief-who-called-for-trumps-removal-is-now-looking-for-a-new-job/
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Builder
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 09:40 pm
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/79235854_546661805889928_8996183294986944512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ohc=Ii6BsQx8ZuEAQkH-Rx5Kk2sTCYp3vpfkucZTx_U0OfMS9uhUwzVEgz9sw&_nc_ht=scontent-syd2-1.xx&oh=76544cf56889d8d49cfb96b94b9c95d4&oe=5EB1B2E2
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:02 pm
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A majority of voters approve of the House of Representatives’ impeachment of President Donald Trump earlier this week, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of the vote.

The narrow majority who approve, 52 percent, is greater than the 43 percent who disapprove of the House voting to impeach Trump, the poll shows. Five percent of voters have no opinion on Trump’s impeachment.

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Support for impeachment breaks sharply among party lines. Among Democrats, 85 percent approve of the House’s action, and only 12 percent disapprove. Approval among Republicans is only 16 percent, compared with 81 percent who disapprove.

Among independents, 48 percent approve of the House passing articles of impeachment and 41 percent disapprove.
Politico
BillW
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:07 pm
@blatham,
They also noted that "flat-earthers" have gone from 5% to 33%, all Republican - unbelievable.
Builder
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:14 pm
@blatham,
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A majority of voters approve of the House of Representatives’ impeachment of President Donald Trump earlier this week


According to this poll, he's still in front.


Friday, December 20, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:22 pm
@BillW,
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"flat-earthers" have gone from 5% to 33%, all Republican
As Richard Hofstadter has written, paranoid theories can be found everywhere but have their most common home on the right. That's true also of anti-intellectualism and the two are obviously tightly related.

One of the great dangers of the constant propagandist denigration of "the mainstream media" is that an increasing number of citizens become prey to false information gained via outlets populated by bad-faith actors like the operation who bought Mike Huckabee's email list and then pumped out biblical cures for cancer - for a price, of course.
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Agora’s emails skirt the line between spammy and scammy. An email sent last year to followers of the popular right-wing site RedState on behalf of the Health Sciences Institute claimed that the Obama administration was blocking a miracle cure that “vaporizes cancer in six weeks.”

These disingenuous endorsements for dubious products epitomize what historian Rick Perlstein has dubbed “mail-order conservatism,” the monetization of right-wing paranoia that started in the 1970s and has flowered ever since a secret Muslim socialist won the White House.
Link

coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:30 pm
@blatham,
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One of the great dangers of the constant propagandist denigration of "the mainstream media"

The truth hurts. The MSM is no longer believed. And it is no wonder at all to any objective thinking person. When you lie and deny for 3 years people do not forget.
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Poll: 72% of Americans Believe Establishment Media Deliberately Report Fake News

At that is from 2018, the percentage is probably higher now.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/06/27/poll-72-of-americans-believe-establishment-media-intentionally-report-fake-news/
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:30 pm
Just watched Bombshell. Did not know that Giuliani was involved in negotiations between Ailes and the Murdochs (just checked elsewhere and find it's true). But doesn't it figure. What a scummy, corrupt, perverse crowd of humans.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:36 pm
@blatham,
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What a scummy, corrupt, perverse crowd of humans.

Think they lie? I am asking the expert.
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Builder
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:38 pm
@blatham,
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What a scummy, corrupt, perverse crowd of humans.


Exactly how we perceive Clinton, Podesta, Weiner, Pelosi, Biden, Abedin, Obama, et al.

Come to think of it; what happened to Podesta and Weiner?
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 10:57 pm
@blatham,
Here's another example of what I just discussed:
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The nation’s oldest anti-vaccine advocacy group often emphasizes that it is supported primarily by small donations and concerned parents, describing its founder as the leader of a “national, grass roots movement.”

But over the past decade a single donor has contributed more than $2.9 million to the National Vaccine Information Center, accounting for about 40 percent of the organization’s funding, according to the most recent available tax records. That donor, osteopathic physician Joseph Mercola, has amassed a fortune selling natural health products, court records show, including vitamin supplements, some of which he claims are alternatives to vaccines.
WP
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:09 pm
Holy shitbuckets, Batman. This I did not know.
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Eric Boehlert
@EricBoehlert
**half the country** wants to remove sitting president from office and press keeps framing impeachment as Dem failure

that’s more than wanted Nixon removed from office one month before he resigned
Builder
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:15 pm
@blatham,
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Holy shitbuckets, Batman. This I did not know.


And you thought it relevant why, exactly??


Eric Boehlert (born December 6, 1965) is a writer at Shareblue. ... At Salon Boehlert won the 2002 American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers' Deems Taylor Award for music journalism, for a series of articles in 2001 on the radio industry.
Born: December 6, 1965
Profession: Writer
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:18 pm
@blatham,
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Eric Boehlert

Why would anyone believe he was telling truth about Trump? Another day, another hack. He needs to source that, or you could.

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The latest Tweets from Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert). Author. former staffer at Media Matters. Salon, Rolling Stone and Billboard. Utica Club aficionado. Opinions my own.
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blatham
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:37 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMSEEbpW4AAEN8X?format=jpg&name=900x900

Perhaps Trump's most historically significant tweet ever.

Imagine Neville Chamberlain returning from Munich waving a letter from Hitler expressing the Fuhrer's friendly and honest opinion that Churchill was the source of fake news and that Chamberlain was being treated unfairly and deserved to be the next Prime Minister.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1976-063-32%2C_Bad_Godesberg%2C_M%C3%BCnchener_Abkommen%2C_Vorbereitung.jpg/330px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1976-063-32%2C_Bad_Godesberg%2C_M%C3%BCnchener_Abkommen%2C_Vorbereitung.jpg

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BillW
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:40 pm
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Facebook says a pro-Trump media outlet used artificial intelligence to create fake people and push conspiracies



Facebook took down more than 600 accounts tied to The Epoch Times, a media outlet that has spent heavily on digital ads to push pro-Trump conspiracy theories.



Dec. 20, 2019, 1:50 PM CST
By Ben Collins

Facebook took down more than 600 accounts tied to the pro-Trump conspiracy website The Epoch Times for using identities created by artificial intelligence to push stories about a variety of topics including impeachment and elections.

The network was called “The BL” and was run by Vietnamese users posing as Americans, using fake photos generated by algorithms to simulate real identities. The Epoch Media group, which pushes a variety of pro-Trump conspiracy theories, spent $9.5 million on ads to spread content through the now-suspended pages and groups.

“What’s new here is that this is purportedly a U.S.-based media company leveraging foreign actors posing as Americans to push political content. We’ve seen it a lot with state actors in the past,” Facebook’s head of security policy, Nathaniel Gleiche, said in an interview.

The network had over 55 million followers on Facebook, almost double the following of Kim Kardashian West.

The accounts pushed anti-impeachment and pro-Trump messages while otherwise posing as everyday Americans. Sometimes the accounts featured obvious errors. One moderator of a popular “BL” page was named “Ellen Dancey,” but featured an AI-generated face of a man. Dancey’s sole post to his profile page read “Hello, wellcom to my face book.”
.........................

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-says-pro-trump-media-outlet-used-artificial-intelligence-create-n1105951

Unbelievable............mmm
coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Dec, 2019 11:44 pm
@BillW,
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artificial intelligence to create fake people and push conspiracies

I wonder who they learned that from?
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blatham
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 12:04 am
@BillW,
Good catch, Bill. Anyone who uses social media as their main means of information gathering is a dangerous fool.
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Builder
 
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Sat 21 Dec, 2019 12:21 am
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The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court ordered a review of all Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act filings handled by Kevin Clinesmith, the FBI lawyer who altered a key document about Trump campaign associate Carter Page.

The FISA court confirmed Clinesmith had been referred to the Justide Department for a possible criminal investigation. Judge Rosemary Collyer, who leads the FISA court, ordered the DOJ to bring it up to speed on everything it had learned about Clinesmith’s conduct and to explain why there was a delay between the conclusion of Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s investigation and the court being told what misconduct had been unearthed.

Specifically, the FISA court ordered the DOJ to “identify all other matters currently or previously before this court that involved the participation” of Clinesmith. The court also ordered the DOJ to “describe any steps taken or to be taken by the Department of Justice or FBI to verify that the United States's submissions in those matters completely and fully described the material facts and circumstances,” unlike the Page FISA filings. Third, court ordered the DOJ to “advise whether the conduct” of Clinesmith has been “referred to the appropriate bar associations for investigation or possible disciplinary action.”


Further to the IG report.

source
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