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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
BillW
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 11:45 am
@revelette3,
It should be noted here that there was significant booing from the audience too. An almost unknown occurrence from a tRump mob!
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hightor
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 12:37 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
The fact is their Obama administration had earlier consistently refused to provide any equivalent military aid to Ukraine , presumably in keeping with Obama's whispered request to then President Medvedev that he tell Vladimir he (Obama) would have more flexibility after the election.

Neither logic nor chronology make this conjecture credible.
Quote:
Much is sanctimoniously made by Democrats of the harm and risk imposed on our dear ally Ukraine by Trump's temporary withholding of aid to them.

Lethal aid was opposed by key allies, including Germany, but the military aid that was given was recommended by the European command. One reason Trump's been criticized over temporarily withhold the Javelins is that, unlike the previous administration, Ukraine was promised these weapons and was left waiting for them, making it difficult for them to plot strategy.

McGentrix
 
  0  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 12:54 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Lethal aid was opposed by key allies, including Germany, but the military aid that was given was recommended by the European command. One reason Trump's been criticized over temporarily withhold the Javelins is that, unlike the previous administration, Ukraine was promised these weapons and was left waiting for them, making it difficult for them to plot strategy.


This is just plain untrue. Firstly, according to the Ukrainians, they had no idea that anything had been delayed. Secondly, they are on the record as having been planning to station weapons and there had been no issues in doing so.

Please attribute your claim that they were left waiting for them.
BillW
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 01:08 pm
..........and now, may I present to the unhonorable, fatuous, unwanted resident of the United States, the IMPEACHED Putin lover, donnie theRump, aka - asshole at large; may he be gone tomorrow (by any means necessary.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 01:35 pm
@BillW,
Bill, I am getting the feeling you don't trust our illustrious president. Be careful in expressing yourself. There are citizens on this site that will report your attitude to his majesty Herr Trump. no
BillW
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 01:39 pm
@RABEL222,
Thank you! Just being honest....... Twisted Evil

Just trying to give the salutation for all future presentaments to his unhonorable for all future events.
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hightor
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 02:54 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Firstly, according to the Ukrainians, they had no idea that anything had been delayed.


This is just plain untrue.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — A senior Pentagon official told the congressional impeachment inquiry that Ukrainian officials inquired about the delay in U.S. military assistance to their country on the same day President Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate Joe Biden.

A Ukrainian official serving in the U.S. asked the Pentagon on July 25 “what is going on” with nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine, according to Laura Cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia.

“And did that connote to you that they were concerned that something was in fact going on with it?” asked House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who is leading the inquiry.

“Yes sir,” Cooper responded.


yahoo


McGentrix
 
  -1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 03:00 pm
@hightor,
It's very true.

Quote:
KIEV, Ukraine — When Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke with President Donald Trump in the now-infamous July 25 phone call, he believed $391 million worth of military aid was already on its way to Kiev, two Ukrainian officials and a US official told BuzzFeed News.

The Ukrainian government didn’t know it was being held up in Washington by Trump, according to the two Ukrainian officials. Nearly a month after the call — which Zelensky has since described as “good” and Trump has called “perfect” — the Ukrainian government was left stumped when they received word that the aid had in fact been suspended.

The Internet
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 03:02 pm
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hightor
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 04:10 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:

Please attribute your claim that they were left waiting for them.


I did, and it looks like conflicting sources. However:

Quote:
The Ukrainian government didn’t know it was being held up in Washington by Trump, according to the two Ukrainian officials. Nearly a month after the call — which Zelensky has since described as “good” and Trump has called “perfect” — the Ukrainian government was left stumped when they received word that the aid had in fact been suspended.


Your source claims that they "didn’t know it was being held up in Washington by Trump".

Quote:
Firstly, according to the Ukrainians, they had no idea that anything had been delayed.


Of course they knew the aid had been delayed — because they had yet to receive it. It's possible that Zelensky missed the intent of Trump's quid pro quo, which had to be stated in an oblique manner, but his government would certainly know whether the weapons had been delivered. And not getting promised weapons in a timely fashion would likely affect any country's military preparedness. The Ukrainians were left to swing in the wind, waiting for the aid.



coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 04:16 pm
@hightor,
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The Ukrainians were left to swing in the wind, waiting for the aid.

At least they had Obama blankets to keep them warm. Obama would not give them weapons, they have been swinging long before Trump came along. Now holding aid is the end of the world? All bullshit.
coluber2001
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 05:26 pm
How about a piece of impeach pie?
https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/198013159/IMG_3594.JPG?auto=format&fit=max&h=1000&w=1000
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 05:31 pm
@coluber2001,

Quote:
How about a piece of impeach pie?

How about a **** sandwich without the bread? That is what the Democrats are going to eating.
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hightor
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 07:12 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
At least they had Obama blankets... [yawn]

As someone pointed out before, during the Poroshenko presidency lethal aid was opposed by key allies, including Germany, but the military aid that was given was recommended by the European command.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 07:16 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
was opposed by key allies, including Germany,

The key allies that will not put their money into it? Was Obama a German puppet? And was he subject to the European command? That is when Ukrainians were dying and Obama did nothing that saved one life. Obama was Putin's puppet.
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BillW
 
  2  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 09:04 pm
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Senate removes phrase 'white nationalist' from measure intended to screen military enlistees

The Republican-controlled Senate quietly cut the phrase "white nationalist" from a measure in the National Defense Authorization Act, which was intended to explicitly address the threat of white nationalists in the military, altering the language of a House-passed amendment before passing the massive military spending bill Tuesday

The House amendment, which was passed in July, was drafted to explicitly study the feasibility of screening for white nationalist beliefs in military enlistees.

But the final version of the bill passed by the Senate and sent to President Donald Trump for his signature now only requires the Department of Defense to monitor for "extremist and gang-related activity," rather than specifically referencing white nationalism.
..........
The news comes days after the US military and naval academies launched internal investigations after cadets and midshipmen were captured on ESPN's pre-game show for the Army-Navy game making a hand gesture that some interpreted as white nationalist and others interpreted as innocent.
..........
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19/politics/us-military-white-nationalist-ndaa/index.html

Makes me think the Republican leadership is not only corrupt but highly rascist. This is almost 2020, right; not 1860? He's not known as Moscow Mitch for nothing!
BillW
 
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Thu 19 Dec, 2019 09:21 pm
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 09:30 pm
@BillW,
Quote:
This is almost 2020, right; not 1860?

It is self hatred now, much worse than racism, not much of that going on in 1860. Were Republicans racists in the 1860? There was a civil war that says they were not.
BillW
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 09:37 pm
@coldjoint,
cj, you are far to dumb to understand the movement of the political parties over the last 180 years or even the wording of my comment. Don't try, just go and play with your tinker toys.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 19 Dec, 2019 09:42 pm
@BillW,
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cj, you are far to dumb

That is rich coming from you. Try again. I understand politics and I understand you.
 

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