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Builder
 
  -3  
Sat 23 Nov, 2019 11:54 pm
@snood,
Quote:
Makes the same amount of sense as everything else you shovel here.


Let's talk about having sensitive government information on a private server in your own basement, while pretending to be secretary of state, and your boss, the POTUS, knows what you're up to, and is happy to use that same server for private conversations.

Are there dollar signs involved, perchance?

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

Our contacts in the ME, China, and Russia, have banked their final deposits.

Let's just say a professional scrub team will be along shortly.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 12:02 am
@coldjoint,
Another piece of fake news and bogus innuendo from the loony right media.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 12:26 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Another piece of fake news and bogus innuendo

No, it is not. Of course you can point out the fake parts and prove me wrong. I'll wait.
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Builder
 
  -3  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 01:05 am
Let's backtrack a bit, to a time when Clinton imagined she was doing the right thing.



And her target, shortly before Obama's terrorist mercenaries murdered him, and destroyed Libya's future.

Builder
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 01:42 am
@Builder,
The reality of the mess the Obama/Clinton murder of Gaddafi left behind in Libya.



International war criminals, Obama and Clinton.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 02:36 am
Schiffty gets his arse handed to him again and again.



It doesn't take a professional to see the desperation and fear in young Schiffty's eyes, you think?
Real Music
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 02:45 am
Cartoon Donald Trump Can No Longer Tweet.

And now, a look inside Trump Tower as the candidate sits down
for his ritual late-night tweet storm. Laughing Laughing Laughing


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hightor
 
  2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 06:12 am
@Builder,
Quote:
His cheer squad here are laughably dog-piling most of his crap, and upticking his ego.

You know, most people try to avoid looking stupid and one of the best ways is not to misuse terms in a discussion. Now sure, on this forum where you're so respected and adored, you can mistakenly refer to Democrats as "Never Trumpers" and you probably won't even get a thumb-down. But should you vent your opinions on another forum where you don't enjoy such a stellar reputation your solecisms, exposed for all to see, might detract from your credibility. So I knew you'd appreciate my helpful comment. You're welcome.
Builder wrote:
Anyone who thinks they landed that thing on the moon, and then dropped it back in the ocean of Earth, isn't too bright.
 
It's pretty funny that people still think this **** actually happened.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 06:24 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Let's backtrack a bit, to a time when Clinton imagined she was doing the right thing.

Hillary did do the right thing. What happened to Kadaffy was justice.
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Brand X
 
  2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 07:25 am
@snood,
He probably gets a lot of war payola from the military complex.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 07:26 am
@Builder,
No, just someone with an extremely fertile and ideologically warped imagination.
revelette3
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 07:48 am
@snood,
I get what you're saying, but, Bolton is a true zealot for the right wing conservatives war hawks and it's causes and we had seen with Iraq in 2002 and before with his signing of the Project Of The New American Century, there really wasn't any lengths he wasn't willing to go. His attitude towards the UN was more of the same.

Trump violated a lot of those causes; crowning it with his desertion of the Kurds in Syria. On a national security standpoint, and as a war conservative war hawk, it makes sense Bolton would have been offended by the whole Biden's/2016 investigations/Ukraine thing.

On the other hand, if he was a true zealot, he would have testified when first called instead of holding out until he is (or if) subpoenaed.
revelette3
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 07:51 am
@MontereyJack,
I personally avoid him as a Russian bot.
revelette3
 
  2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 08:01 am
Quote:
CNN reported late Friday that an associate of Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, has information on meetings Nunes allegedly had with former Ukrainian prosecutor general Victor Shokin.

The CNN report says that Lev Parnas, according to his attorney, put Nunes in touch with Shokin to help him gather damaging information on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter's dealings with Ukraine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/23/democrat-says-devin-nunes-investigation-likely-073109
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snood
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 08:14 am
@revelette3,
So, what are you saying? You think he’s going to testify or not?
livinglava
 
  -2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 08:34 am
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:

Trump violated a lot of those causes; crowning it with his desertion of the Kurds in Syria.

Superficially, it would seem the Kurds were abandoned, but of course that is exactly what you would expect to hear from anti-Trumpers whose goal is to get rid of Trump because he tends to obstruct political methods commonly used to trigger funding and economic stimulus, such as the practices of drawing US military presence into a region for the sake of getting the money that comes with the military presence.

Trump's strategy of using economic consequences to deter abuses is not absurd. You have to figure that if attacking/threatening the Kurds or anyone else brings with it the promise of US military spending and presence in an area, it actually incentivizes attacking/threatening them if military presence is maintained.

This impeachment on the basis of threatening to pull foreign aid is the Democrat/socialist response to Trump's general strategy, which is to use funding-cuts as a weapon against abuse/exploitation globally. The Democrats and global socialism want to secure the global economy against cuts so that their investors and other economic operatives can tap stable global financial flows for money. They don't want to have their income vulnerable to disciplinary action. No one wants to deal with pay cuts as disciplinary action, right?

The irony is that Democrats/socialists set the stage for such disciplinary action by increasing economic dependencies on government spending and other actions; so all Trump is really doing is utilizing power that Democrats/socialists have put into place. It puts them in an awkward position, because if they want to be free of such discipline, they must reduce governmental-dependency overall, but of course they don't want that because it would reduce the power of government.

It is quite similar to what was done with the federal deduction for state income tax, if you think about it. High income-tax states like NY were benefiting by attracting high-income tax-payers to their states, where they could at least contribute tax payments on a more local level rather than handing all the money over at the federal level. Once the deduction was eliminated, it freed those tax-payers to move to lower-tax states, which in turn meant that the higher-tax states would lose investment designed to recoup money paid as taxes.

So now, because the deduction was eliminated, it is in the interest of high tax states to reduce taxes at the federal level to attract higher tax payers to their states, i.e. because their overall tax burden will be lower overall. That is the opposite of what was happening before, which is that it was in the interest of NYers to support higher federal taxes because doing so increases the levels of state tax they could levy that could be deducted from federal income taxes.
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neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 08:35 am
A twit is not an official order... This is a travesty to our Armed Services chains of command

Navy secretary denies report that he threatened to resign over Trump interference in SEAL review

Edward R. Gallagher

SAN DIEGO — U.S. Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer denied a New York Times report Saturday that he had threatened to resign or be fired if President Trump intervenes to stop an administrative review of a SEAL at the center of a botched war crimes court-martial.

Spencer delivered the denial from the Halifax International Security Forum in Nova Scotia, Canada, where he is a keynote speaker: “Contrary to popular belief, I am still here. I did not threaten to resign. We are here to talk about external threats, and Eddie Gallagher is not one of them.” The denial was also posted to his official Twitter account.

The comment bolstered other denials from Navy officials who told the San Diego Union-Tribune on Saturday that neither Spencer nor Rear Adm. Collin Green had threatened to resign, contrary to what the newspaper had reported hours earlier.

The report was based on comments from unnamed officials in the Trump administration, the New York Times said.

Earlier this week, Green, the commander of Naval Special Warfare Command, announced he would initiate “trident reviews” of four SEALs involved in a war crimes probe into the actions of SEAL Team 7’s Alpha Platoon during a 2017 deployment to Iraq. A trident review essentially determines whether a SEAL remains in the elite community.

The reviews were announced just days after Trump restored Navy SEAL Edward R. Gallagher to the rank of chief petty officer, overturning the sentence of the military jury in Gallagher’s San Diego court-martial this summer.

The decision to hold reviews was criticized as an affront to Trump’s authority as commander in chief by Gallagher’s media surrogates on Fox News and by his attorneys, Timothy Parlatore and Marc Mukasey.

On Thursday, Trump said in a tweet that the Navy will not be taking Gallagher’s SEAL trident pin, the gold insignia of the Navy SEALs.

Navy officials offered conflicting accounts on whether the reviews were suspended or proceeding.

The New York Times reported that the Navy may not consider Trump’s tweet an official order.

On Saturday, Spencer said he would need a formal order to stop a review of Gallagher, who could lose his trident pin and status as a Navy SEAL, according to the Associated Press.

“I need a formal order to act,” he said, referring to the tweet. “I don’t interpret them as a formal order.”

On Friday, the secretary told Reuters at the Halifax International Security Forum that he supports the hearing into whether Gallagher will be allowed to remain a SEAL, saying he believes the process matters for “good order and discipline.”

Parlatore, citing misconduct by a Navy lawyer and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service during Gallagher’s court-martial, told the Union-Tribune on Saturday that good order and discipline is no reason to disregard a “clear directive” from the commander in chief.

“The secretary should not be supporting [the review boards] when he has failed to ensure good order and discipline is applied across the board by holding [Navy] prosecutors and NCIS agents accountable for their criminal conduct in this case,” Parlatore said. “Additionally, [Spencer] should not be making statements like these on foreign soil.”

Rear Adm. Charlie Brown, the Navy’s chief spokesman, said Saturday that Spencer’s comments in Canada were in line with current White House guidance.

Parlatore said he thought Green should resign or be fired.

“At this point,” Parlatore said in a text message, “Green has demonstrated such a lack of leadership through his fixation on Eddie Gallagher and defiance of the president that he should resign or be fired.”

Gallagher was charged with killing a wounded Islamic State captive and shooting civilians during his time in Iraq in 2017. At the end of his court-martial, a jury acquitted him of the most serious allegations and convicted him of posing for photos with the body of the captive fighter.

A military jury sentenced Gallagher to four months’ confinement, which he served before trial, and reduced his rank to petty officer 1st class, or E-6.

Trump has intervened several times in the case, and Gallagher’s family members and advocates have made dozens of appearances on Fox News shows since the SEAL was charged in January.

Trump ordered Gallagher released from the Miramar brig in March, and tweeted his congratulations upon his acquittal of the most serious charges against him in July.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 08:51 am
@neptuneblue,
Is that the right term? Over here we call them tweets, twit is another word for an idiot.
neptuneblue
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 09:00 am
@izzythepush,
Irony takes different forms...
izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 24 Nov, 2019 09:18 am
@neptuneblue,
I'm still at a loss. Are you saying you were being ironic, or pointing out that the word twit is correct in this case but its other meaning makes it ironic as it's the social media of choice for the biggest idiot ever to serve as president?
 

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