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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 07:49 am
The modern conservative movement and the modern GOP do not believe in democracy.
Quote:
The GOP’s Opposition to Impeachment Is (Terrifyingly) Principled

...none of this (necessarily) means that the GOP’s defenses of Trump are unprincipled, only that its true principles remain unspoken. For Republicans, the question at the heart of both “Ukrainegate” and the impeachment inquiry is not really about what the president did, or what presidents can and cannot be removed from office for doing. Rather, it is about whether there is any distinction between Donald Trump’s political interests and America’s national ones.

To many conservatives, Democrats (and/or popular democracy) are a greater threat to America than Vladimir Putin.

...In a hyperpolarized political system — and in the face of demographic and ideological headwinds — many conservatives simply see little reason to value the maintenance of democratic norms above the preservation of their movement’s power.
NYMag - much more here

As Levitz details, the principle guiding Republicans now is that power must be grabbed and held not matter how that gets done. This might be the most obvious truth in modern US politics.

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revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 08:32 am
@BillW,
Quote:
rev, I was just being idealistic not realistic. In Kentucky they had a vote total of 1.5 million come out yesterday. Their "normal" vote total for an off year election is 0.9 million. It is a proven fact that large vote totals (for whatever reason) belong to Democratic happiness. That is the cause of Republican disengagement.


True, I was very happy about the turnout in KY in non presidential race. I just wish it had affected some of the down ballots. I hope there is a lot of campaigning by democrats in KY and it is not written off as being a red state. Those suburban areas might again turn out to vote against Trump.
revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 08:35 am
@Olivier5,
I am hoping the US turning it's back on European allies is mostly Trump related as it not even supported by most republicans.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 08:56 am
@revelette3,
The Iraq war was already a nail in NATO's coffin in that it was a war of choice rather than a defensive one. It led to more insecurity in the region, ISIS, the rise of Iran as a regional power, etc. So it's broader than Trump although of course he's doubling down on it.
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engineer
 
  4  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 09:20 am
@revelette3,
Don't read much into this race. Kentucky is not going to vote against Trump. The governor was extremely unpopular (he accused teachers of being complicit in child molestation by going out on a work stoppage for example) so he lost, but the state has a whole loves the current administration and will be voting hard for Trump next election day.
engineer
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 09:31 am
Apparently Jeff Sessions is going to run for Senate in Alabama. Trump is going to actively oppose him.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 09:37 am
@engineer,
Quote:
Trump has indicated privately to aides that not only does he not support Sessions run, but that he will actively oppose him.

Do those aides have names? Then, the next sentence talks about what the WP and NYT say. No credibility in this article. Just one more negative story about what Trump may think from sources with no names.

More propaganda and mainstream garbage.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/jeff-sessions-alabama-senate-campaign-announc
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revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 11:00 am
@engineer,
I know, however, there are some places which are not so Pro-Trump. Might be able shave some votes off Trump in those places. Not the area I live in, but the more suburban "modern" places. My county is even known for it's backward and corrupt ways by other parts of KY.
revelette3
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 11:06 am
Beshear vs. Bevin: Kentucky governor's race could be decided by state legislature
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 11:07 am
@revelette3,
Quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A supporter of U.S. President Donald Trump paid the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani $500,000 on behalf of a company co-founded by a Ukrainian-American businessman who helped Giuliani investigate Trump’s political rival Joe Biden, the supporter’s lawyer told Reuters on Thursday.

Reuters first reported the payment here last month but at the time Giuliani declined to disclose the exact source. He would only say that it was not foreign in origin and that it was payment for services he rendered to the company of the businessman, Lev Parnas.

The payment attracted attention because of Parnas’ role in helping Giuliani investigate former U.S. Vice President Biden, a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in the 2020 election, and his son, Hunter Biden, who was a director of Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

Parnas was arrested last month on unrelated campaign finance charges.

Charles Gucciardo, a personal injury lawyer from Long Island, paid the money to Giuliani Partners LLC, a management and consulting firm, on behalf of Fraud Guarantee, Parnas’ company, according to Randy Zelin, a lawyer for Gucciardo. He said the money was a loan to the Boca Raton-based company, whose website says it aims to help clients “reduce and mitigate fraud.”

“Mr. Gucciardo invested because he believed that Mr. Giuliani - the former Mayor of New York City; former United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York; and the first name in cybersecurity - was in front of, behind and alongside the company,” Zelin said, adding that his client’s politics are irrelevant.

The New York Times first reported late on Wednesday that Gucciardo paid the $500,000.
Reuters
revelette3
 
  5  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 11:14 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Another example of breaking campaign laws, the $500,000 amounted to a campaign contribution.

Current Political Campaign Contribution Limits
For the 2020 Primary and General Elections
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 11:16 am
@revelette3,
No one is turning their back on anyone. Europe is a big boy that should take care of itself, with its own money. That is what the whining is about. Trump has made it clear America is his concern and that other countries should pursue their interests also. One of their interests was sucking on America's tit. Those days are over.
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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 12:16 pm
@engineer,
Obviously, Sessions knows a lot that would be damaging to Trump. If Trump does here what he normally does - personal denigration and attempts to crush the target of his attacks - we'll know Trump believes Sessions to be without principles. Probably a very good bet.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 12:27 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Obviously, Sessions knows a lot that would be damaging to Trump.

You don't know that. And wouldn't he (Sessions) have jumped on the train by now? More bullshit to reflect negatively on Trump. We get it.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 01:59 pm
@coldjoint,
The problem is the truth reflects negatively on trump.

Baldimo
 
  -1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 04:38 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
This was sloppy on my part — I was referring to the frat house behavior which he admitted to in high school;

You mean high school parties... he wasn't in a frat house and was acting like any other high school kid that partied in the 80's.

Quote:
the only incident I'm referring to is the Blasey accusation — which doesn't mean that any of the others are false, but they weren't as thoroughly investigated.

Which was never proven and wasn't able to be verified by anyone, not even her. As for the rest of the accusations, they all admitted to making up the claims, not a single one of them turned out to be true. It was mud slinging by the Dems to keep him off the court.

Quote:
"Frat house behavior" is a term used to describe the sort of vomit-fests of privilege, machismo, and intoxication that Kavanaugh bragged about attending.

You mean normal high school parties... kids today party the same exact way, nothing he did was unusual at that time considering the drinking age was 18 and not 21.

Quote:
Oh, I see one of your signature licks...the DNC.

signature licks?

Quote:
The DNC wasn't in charge of the hearings, nor was it a participant in the hearings. A lot of people were making a "big case" out of it, it was in the headlines for weeks.

Oh yes they are. Don't try and separate the DNC from the Dems, they are all the same. This is a direct benefit to whom ever the DNC runs against Trump next year. This whole entire scam is to benefit the DNC in next years elections, don't be fooled.

Quote:
A lot of people were making a "big case" out of it, it was in the headlines for weeks.

No, not a lot of people, the DNC and the MSM.

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They can't "reverse" the election, comrade.

No they can't, but it doesn't stop them from trying several different scams to do exactly that. 25th Amendment attempt? How about the mention of the "Insurance Policy" between the love birds at the FBI? It has been nothing but one desperate attempt to remove Trump from office. Save the comrade talk for your next Antifa meeting. I must have touched a nerve with you, you have turned your responses personal.

Quote:
Let me explain. It already happened. He's been in office for nearly three years.

And the DNC has been trying to remove him since he won the election. It's all desperation on the DNC's part.

Quote:
Is there anything you can't twist this combination of letters around in order to display your paranoia and fear?

Speaking the truth ins't paranoia or fear, it's the truth. Paranoia was thinking the Russians helped elect Trump in the first place. The left has been on a Russia-laden tear since 2016, it's a repeat of the McCarthy era without the actual Communists.







coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 05:42 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
The problem is the truth reflects negatively on trump.

Actually, the truth reflects badly on you and your narrative. Cool
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NSFW (view)
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 08:23 pm
@Real Music,
Old news.
Real Music
 
  3  
Thu 7 Nov, 2019 08:25 pm
@coldjoint,
1. Yes, you are correct that Trump being an idiot is old news.

2. Wow! We actually agree on something.

3. You have to admit the video does make you want to sing along and dance.
 

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