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@Olivier5,

Hilarious!! This is our world: man makes claim, woman asks man for proof to support claim, man calls woman an “obsessive truther”.

I had to laugh.

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Brits in my timeline are hashtagging #dissolvetheunion. Reading that conversation is sad but hopeful.

Seems the trend is to local. A return. A new beginning.

But, an end.

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@snood,

As I said, he can’t just prove his point by refuting content. Hillary Clinton, Obama, Kamala—all neoliberal conservative Centrists. The Republican Party had to swing psychotic right to put daylight between themselves and your heroes.

You guys are the New Republicans.

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@Lash,

Oliver sounds like he is taking a page out of AOC's play book:

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I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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@Lash,

I already listed a few arguments and evidence which you failed to acknowledge.

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@Olivier5,

I backtracked through 2 pages through our conversation, and there’s nothing. I’m not divining through this site.

There’s no proof that the Russian dabbling made a difference.

There’s plenty of evidence that we’ve overturned governments though. If you ever find anything definitive that affected our election, feel free to share a link.

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@Lash,

Hopeful of what? More platitudes? I'm sorry but your post doesn't appear to actually say anything.

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@Lash,

Let me repost it for ya:

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The volume of traffic generated, the adoption of Russian-pedled memes by US voters, the narrowness of the ultimate result, etc.

Let's be realistic: the Russians don't spend money and efforts for nothing.

Let's be logical: if they had no influence whatsoever, Obama would have been CORRECT in not making these Russian efforts public before election day. You CANNOT reproach him that secrecy, and contend that it was inconsequential anyway.

Unless you're a Trump supporter of course. They know no logic nor realism.

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@Lash,

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There’s no proof that the Russian dabbling made a difference.

The neverTrumpers have been convinced there's a scapegoat somewhere, and, in good US fashion, the old Reds under the Beds syndrome suits their needs just fine.

Let's not dwell on obvious things, like Hillary calling the nation a bunch of deplorables, or abusively demanding "why am I not fifty points in front" in the polls, or laughing like a psychopath over arranging the street rape and murder of the leader of another nation.

Much easier to point to a handful of trolls on facebook, with a budget of a hundred grand.

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@Olivier5,

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Let's be realistic: the Russians don't spend money and efforts for nothing.

For once, it would appear that the amount spent on the election didn't affect the result. Clinton's spend was well over double what Trump invested.

I guess it's just tough (for some punters) to understand that the bitch was just not presidential at all.

I wasn't at all surprised at the result, myself. She handled herself like the NPD psychopath she really is, and abused the nation's people, like they were idiots.

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@Builder,

There can be several causes to one single event. Open your mind.

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@Olivier5,

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There can be several causes to one single event.

I listed the obvious ones. Voters do not appreciate being denigrated, or abused.

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Open your mind.

Meaning focus only on it being the Russians, right?

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@izzythepush,

I’ll try to explain my viewpoint.

Because of climate change and a resounding public repudiation of neoliberalism and its accompanying feature, loss of personal autonomy for the great majority of people on this planet, the natural result is a trend toward more local administration.

Britain is an example of this happening.

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@Lash,

Britain is an example of xenophobic scum forcing the country down the shitter.

If you're reading posts about abandoning the Union, they're not talking about the EU, they're talking about Britain.

No good will come of any of it.

The EU was the best hope for cutting carbon emissions.

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The governor of PR is resigning!

The people for the win!

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article233048427.html

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Mueller is answering few questions-- citing the report, asking questions to be repeated, seems confused at times and uncertain about key parts of his own report.

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Media portrayal of Mueller: sterling, heroic, supremely competent pursuer of truth

Actual performance of Mueller: bumbling, shaky, can't recall key facts

Now we know why he hid from the public for 2+ years

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3. Mueller confirms to ranking member Collins that his investigation was never curtailed.

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Mifsud is discussed extensively in the Report and his actions are cited as an impetus for launching the investigation, but sadly Mueller can't say a word about him. Oh well

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@izzythepush,

I’ve been reading the posts, so it’s clear that some Scotland folks are agitating for a parting from the U.K.

I think we’ll all be governed more locally within a couple of decades.

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