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Builder
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 04:41 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Clinton promised war right away with Iran.


Untold billions paid by her Saudi buddies for that wish list.

Pay to play. I bet they're still butthurt about that.

The ones who didn't go to hell in the first ethnic cleanse, that is.
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BillRM
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 04:42 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Clinton promised war right away with Iran. We’d already be three years deep in it.

You’re just a foul mouthed arm chair cowboy who enjoys putting people down.

You idolize Obama and can’t tolerate criticism of him.

Was Obama responsible for those items detailed or not? See if you can muster more than a quip or a put down.


Having any president that fall anywhere in the norm range for presidents such as Obama or for that matter Hillary if she had won the EC instead of just the popular vote by a few millions is one hell of a better situation then having a low IQ racist demagogue in the office as we do now.

If you consider the racist society of the 1950s as America being great then Trump is indeed making the US great once more.
Builder
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 04:45 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
.....is one hell of a better situation then having a low IQ racist demagogue in the office as we do now.


Thing is, there were only two choices, and the people actually made the right choice. Pity you're still so butt hurt about that choice.

Question how an entrepreneur with zero government experience can become president.
NSFW (view)
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:09 am
It’s Boris and Trump now.
Olivier5
 
  0  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:09 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
While there is no evidence that anything Russian efforts did affected the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, the intelligence community assesses Russia interfered in the months leading up to it to sow public discord and undermine confidence in the democratic process. The Obama administration knew about this for months. But President Obama opted to not call Russia out on it publicly or inform the American people.

Of course there is ample evidence that the Russian meddling DID affect the vote. Otherwise, why would anyone care about Obama not exposing it publicly, if it was a mere detail with no practical consequences?

Trump is the Russian candidate, and Obama should have blocked him.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:10 am
@Olivier5,
Where is the evidence that Russian copying opinions if Americans online effected the outcome of the election?
BillRM
 
  -2  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:16 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
.....is one hell of a better situation then having a low IQ racist demagogue in the office as we do now.


Thing is, there were only two choices, and the people actually made the right choice. Pity you're still so butt hurt about that choice.

Question how an entrepreneur with zero government experience can become president.


The people by a few millions votes did indeed picked the right person.

That above fact help to reduce the shame I feel that we now have such a fool and racist as president.
Builder
 
  3  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 05:22 am
@BillRM,

Quote:
The people by a few millions votes


Yes, in one state out of fifty plus.

Cali is currently deleting millions of dodgey voters there.

Not that it matters a flog, because dem founding fathers made it impossible for one dodgy state to decide the fate of the rest of the nation.
Olivier5
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 07:03 am
@Lash,
The volume of traffic generated, the adoption of Russian-pedled memes by US voters, the narrowness of the ultimate result, etc.

Let's be realistic: the Russians don't spend money and efforts for nothing.

Let's be logical: if they had no influence whatsoever, Obama would have been CORRECT in not making these Russian efforts public before election day. You CANNOT reproach him that secrecy, and contend that it was inconsequential anyway.

Unless you're a Trump supporter of course. They know no logic nor realism.
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blatham
 
  0  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 07:48 am
Quote:
Trump is claiming that allegations of racism directed at himself and his policies — and the supporters who embrace them — are themselves examples of racism. Analysis by The Washington Post found that Trump is three times as likely to accuse nonwhite people of racism as he is white people.

This isn't a new phenomenon. When segregationist Alabama Gov. George Wallace was asked if he considered himself to be a racist during a 1968 interview, he offered a similar deflection.

"No sir, I don't regard myself as a racist," Wallace said, "and I think the biggest racists in the world are those who call other folks racist. I think the biggest bigots in the world are those who call other folks bigots."
Benen
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 07:58 am
@blatham,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/27yZL8S.jpg

The selective socialism of Donald Trump: Farmers, yes. Poor families, no.
Quote:
[...]Trump claimed at one point that this subsidy would come from the tariffs being paid by China on imported products but, as you likely know, those tariffs are also being paid largely by American consumers.

The subsidy program’s cost? $16 billion. The amount of increased costs borne by Americans through June of this year? That’s estimated at more than $22 billion.

So Trump is, in essence, taxing American consumers to pay $16 billion to farmers. The rationale for this is simple, as is the rationale for Trump bragging about handing that money over to farmers: 2020. Farmers almost necessarily live in more rural areas, places that are a stronghold of Trump’s support. Trump is reminding farmers and those who live near farmers that he’s delivering for them, no matter how at odds with his party’s past rhetoric.

You’ve probably already made this comparison in your head, but let’s do so explicitly. Trump’s administration wants to change food-stamp eligibility rules in order to save $15 billion over the long run and reduce food aid to 3.1 million people. At the same time, he celebrates spending $16 billion over the short run to bolster 3.4 million American farmers — who were hurting in part because of the tariffs that he himself imposed.

All of this is occurring in the shadow of the broad tax cuts he signed in 2017 that have contributed to what the White House itself expects to be a $1 trillion deficit this fiscal year.

Trump’s use of federal funds to send political messages is pretty explicit here. Poor people shouldn’t be poor in this economy and don’t need food stamps. Farmers do need assistance (thanks to Trump), and that assistance is worth bragging about.

If you’re curious, 39 percent of households receiving food stamps in 2016 were run by someone who is white. Well over 90 percent of farmers are white.
... ... ...
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blatham
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 08:16 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Mueller is sick of it.
Just what Mueller might or might not be "sick of" isn't something you know.

Quote:
Since I don’t think you know what a progressive is; here’s an introduction to what we think
Yes. I'm sure that your present political certainties are as educated, carefully developed and dependable as when you were a voice of right wing incontrovertible truths.
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 11:14 am
@blatham,
Mueller had to be subpoenaed.
Truthdig, the Intercept, and truthout are quite different than the corporately owned and vetted pieces you read—for a reason.
They’re progressive.
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georgeob1
 
  0  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 11:33 am
Just returned from a pleasant several week vacation on the Russian River here in California. On a personal level very happy to see Blatham back here, and in good, familiar form as well. The flip side however is that he is indeed in familiar form.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 11:38 am
@Lash,
If you gona turn "obsessive truther" on me, good ridance. I've seen enough wackos asking for the mathematical proof that 9/11 wasn't an inside job.

If you look at history not as an exact science but as a domain where preponderance of evidence applies, then the least you could do is acknowledge the evidence i already cited, and possibly even find something wrong with it.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 12:42 pm
@Lash,
Now the fight begins in earnest, more timely than ever.



Beneath the old iron bridges, across the Victorian parks
And all the frightened people running home before dark
Past the Saturday morning cinema
That lies crumbling to the ground
And the piss stinking shopping centre in the new side of town
I've come to smell the seasons change, & watch the city
As the sun goes down again

Here comes another winter, of long shadows and high hopes
Here comes another winter, waiting for utopia
Waiting for hell to freeze over

This is the land, where nothing changes
The land of red buses & blue blooded babies
This is the place, where pensioners are raped

And the hearts are being cut, from the welfare state
Let the poor drink the milk, while the rich eat the honey
Let the bums count their blessings, while they count their money

So many people, can't express what's on their minds
Nobody knows them and nobody ever will
Until their backs are broken and their dreams are stolen
And they can't get what they want, then they're gonna get angry!
Well it ain't written in the papers, but its written on the walls
The way this country is divided to fall
So the cranes are moving on the skyline--
Trying to knock down--this town
But the stains on the heartland, can never be removed
From this country, that's sick, sad, and confused

Here comes another winter, of long shadows and high hopes
Here comes another winter, waiting for utopia
Waiting for hell to freeze over

The ammunition's being passed, and the lord's been praised
But the wars on the televisions will never be explained
All the bankers gettin sweaty, beneath their white collars
As the pound in our pocket turns into a dollar

This is the 51st state--of the U. S. A
This is the 51st state--of the U. S. A
This is the 51st state--of the U. S. A
This is the 51st state--of the U. S. A
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 23 Jul, 2019 12:51 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

It’s Boris and Trump now.
Both are very similar: Boris Johnson has appointed one of Sky's senior executives as his business adviser, just days after it emerged the multi-millionaire had lent his £9.5m Westminster flat to the incoming prime minister.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 12:53 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
He just doesn't give a **** does he?
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BillRM
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Jul, 2019 01:49 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:


Quote:
The people by a few millions votes


Yes, in one state out of fifty plus.

Cali is currently deleting millions of dodgey voters there.

Not that it matters a flog, because dem founding fathers made it impossible for one dodgy state to decide the fate of the rest of the nation.


We are surely being punish for seizing another nation lands to turn them into slave states.

First it was our civil war and now it is having a fool and racist like Trump as president.

If we ask mexico real nice for them to take those southern states backs I wonder it they would do so as most of those states now cost more then they bring in to the federal government.
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