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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Lash
 
  1  
Thu 30 May, 2019 12:34 pm
@MontereyJack,
Thankfully, we can trust the polls because they were right on target last time.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Thu 30 May, 2019 12:35 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Looks like american ethical standards are holding firm against trump sleaze

Don't you mean to say, "deplorable Trump sleaze?"
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 30 May, 2019 12:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Just looked at the polls. In 2020 44 percent will either definitely vote for trump or consider it. But 54 percent will DEFINITELY NOT vote for him. Looks like american ethical standards are holding firm against trump sleaze

There is nothing ethical about Democrats conducting witch hunts against people who disagree with them.
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Thu 30 May, 2019 01:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
Which polls? I've done several google searches for such a poll and the only thing I can find came from The Hill in Nov of 2018, prior to the release of the Mueller Investigation, there are no current polls indicating what you claim. A link would be nice.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/415760-voters-split-on-if-house-dems-should-begin-impeachment
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 30 May, 2019 02:18 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
But you're correct: the president must be coddled

Like the Muslims in Germany? I don't think we are that bad, yet.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 31 May, 2019 04:59 am
The flyposters have been busy. These have just suddenly appeared all over Southampton.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2zhsqxtpInv2tMzwAl5lS7Czfa8XhjX5wjjcUIdHFCv9iZ7z-xA
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Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 05:29 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Thankfully, we can trust the polls because they were right on target last time.


Near spat my beer all over the keyboard. Chuckles.
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Builder
 
  -2  
Fri 31 May, 2019 05:32 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
If you wish.


Thanks for confirming what we already knew; the reason Saudi Arabia and Israhell never get any attention from Al Qaeda, is because they fund them.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 05:41 am
@Builder,
Your antisemitism is disgusting.
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Fri 31 May, 2019 05:52 am
Refreshing indeed...

Quote:
Craig Holman of Public Citizen called it “refreshing.”

“Cruz and AOC willing to work together on revolving door abuses is quite a surprise, but it looks real,” he said. “They are talking about sponsoring legislation to impose a lifetime ban on members of Congress ever serving as paid lobbyists once they retire from public service. I don’t know how politically feasible this legislation would be, but it is a great starting point for some meaningful ethics reforms.”


https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/lets-make-a-deal-aoc-and-ted-cruz-yes-thats-right-teaming-up-to-fix-washington/2019/05/30/bb9dbbfa-832c-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html
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revelette1
 
  1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 07:07 am
@Lash,
The polls held in the 2018 midterms elections. Where the polls fell was the last part of the 2016 election with swing states. The only one to get it right then was 538.
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revelette1
 
  1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 07:15 am
Quote:
Trump’s Mexico tariffs risk economic turmoil

President Donald Trump’s threat to impose new tariffs on Mexico unless it stops the flow of migrants into the U.S. could cause massive economic disruption ahead of the 2020 elections and doom his signature renegotiation of a North American trade deal.

Trump announced a 5% tariff on all imports from Mexico unless it takes “decisive measures” — as judged by his administration — to stem migrants entering the U.S., according to a White House statement. The tariffs would begin June 10 and scale up incrementally until they reach 25 percent on Oct. 1.

The surprise move rattled global financial markets as investors were counting on slow but steady progress toward congressional approval of the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement that Trump’s team negotiated to modernize the North American Free Trade Agreement, which went into effect in 1994.

Trump’s sharply worded statement describing alleged consequences of lax border security blamed Mexico and Democrats — the two groups that have the most control over his trade deal’s fate.

These tariffs represent a de facto dismantling of Nafta, which could unite a broad coalition of manufacturers, farmers and bipartisan lawmakers against the president the year before he seeks re-election.

The Mexican peso weakened by as much as 3% after Trump’s tweets, while investors fled to the safest assets as concerns over new trade conflicts mount. The Japanese yen gained while U.S. futures tumbled and 10-year Treasury yields reached a fresh 20-month low.

By using tariffs to score political points on border security with the element of his voter base most opposed to illegal immigration, Trump jeopardizes a real legislative win and the economic growth that continues to prop up his popular approval.

Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, which has authority over trade policy, said “following through on this threat” will put the USMCA at risk, dashing the chance for Trump to fulfill one of his central campaign pledges.

“Trade policy and border security are separate issues,” Grassley said in a statement. “This is a misuse of presidential tariff authority and counter to congressional intent.


Bloomberg
livinglava
 
  -1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 07:32 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Quote:
Trump’s Mexico tariffs risk economic turmoil

President Donald Trump’s threat to impose new tariffs on Mexico unless it stops the flow of migrants into the U.S. could cause massive economic disruption ahead of the 2020 elections and doom his signature renegotiation of a North American trade deal.

Trump announced a 5% tariff on all imports from Mexico unless it takes “decisive measures” — as judged by his administration — to stem migrants entering the U.S., according to a White House statement. The tariffs would begin June 10 and scale up incrementally until they reach 25 percent on Oct. 1.

The surprise move rattled global financial markets as investors were counting on slow but steady progress toward congressional approval of the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement that Trump’s team negotiated to modernize the North American Free Trade Agreement, which went into effect in 1994.

Trump’s sharply worded statement describing alleged consequences of lax border security blamed Mexico and Democrats — the two groups that have the most control over his trade deal’s fate.

These tariffs represent a de facto dismantling of Nafta, which could unite a broad coalition of manufacturers, farmers and bipartisan lawmakers against the president the year before he seeks re-election.

The Mexican peso weakened by as much as 3% after Trump’s tweets, while investors fled to the safest assets as concerns over new trade conflicts mount. The Japanese yen gained while U.S. futures tumbled and 10-year Treasury yields reached a fresh 20-month low.

By using tariffs to score political points on border security with the element of his voter base most opposed to illegal immigration, Trump jeopardizes a real legislative win and the economic growth that continues to prop up his popular approval.

Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, which has authority over trade policy, said “following through on this threat” will put the USMCA at risk, dashing the chance for Trump to fulfill one of his central campaign pledges.

“Trade policy and border security are separate issues,” Grassley said in a statement. “This is a misuse of presidential tariff authority and counter to congressional intent.


Bloomberg

Do you realize the practical effect of raising tariffs as a response to migration will be for Mexican employers to create jobs in order to get the tariffs lowered?

Are you against stimulating job-creation in Mexico for some reason?
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 07:47 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
Do you realize the practical effect of raising tariffs as a response to migration will be for Mexican employers to create jobs in order to get the tariffs lowered?
I don't know if rev realises it, but I'd thought until now that tariffs are import taxes that get passed on to domestic consumers.
(I'm wondering, if the tariffs for goods from China, Europe, Canada ... are also intended to create jobs there.)

But before, the practical effect of these tariffs was to let Mexico pay for Trump's wall. The financing for this then is apparently secured.
livinglava
 
  0  
Fri 31 May, 2019 07:57 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

livinglava wrote:
Do you realize the practical effect of raising tariffs as a response to migration will be for Mexican employers to create jobs in order to get the tariffs lowered?
I don't know if rev realises it, but I'd thought until now that tariffs are import taxes that get passed on to domestic consumers.

Governments and sellers may retaliate for tariffs in various ways, including by raising their prices, but that is just a tactic to discourage the tariffs.

If Mexican employers know that they can get a 5% tariff reduced by spending 4% to hire would-be migrants, wouldn't that save them money?

I wonder why the EU hasn't tried something similar to discourage migration, actually.

Quote:
But before, the practical effect of these tariffs was to let Mexico pay for Trump's wall. The financing for this then is apparently secured.

If it stopped spending on illegal drugs smuggled across the border, the wall would indeed pay for itself.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 31 May, 2019 08:17 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
I wonder why the EU hasn't tried something similar to discourage migration, actually.
There even aren't tariffs at all between EU-member countries - that's the idea of an economic union.
Besides that, free transnational migration is another of the core values of the EU.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 08:21 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

livinglava wrote:
I wonder why the EU hasn't tried something similar to discourage migration, actually.
There even aren't tariffs at all between EU-member countries - that's the idea of an economic union.

I meant all the migration of non-EU citizens into the EU that triggered so many member states to close borders.
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InfraBlue
 
  3  
Fri 31 May, 2019 08:54 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
Do you realize the practical effect of raising tariffs as a response to migration will be for Mexican employers to create jobs in order to get the tariffs lowered?

Are you against stimulating job-creation in Mexico for some reason?


US employers could just as well create jobs.

Are you against job-creation in the US for some reason?
livinglava
 
  -1  
Fri 31 May, 2019 09:03 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

livinglava wrote:
Do you realize the practical effect of raising tariffs as a response to migration will be for Mexican employers to create jobs in order to get the tariffs lowered?

Are you against stimulating job-creation in Mexico for some reason?


US employers could just as well create jobs.

Are you against job-creation in the US for some reason?

What does that have to do with what I said about tariffs stimulating job-creation in Mexico?

If you want to talk about job-creation in the US, why don't you just do that separately instead of obfuscating the tariffs=jobs in Mexico point?
revelette1
 
  2  
Fri 31 May, 2019 09:19 am
@livinglava,
I always believed charity starts at home; in that sense, raising tariffs on Mexico will mean a tax hike for consumers at home on Mexican goods. A lose/lose for both sides. There are a lot of produce from Mexico in everyday stores, including small towns. Personally I wish there was a friendlier relationship with our border countries instead of the hostile one Trump seems intent on making. Where meetings can occur to work out differences and problems in both countries.

In any event other than puppy dog Graham who can't stand on his own feet but must forever have a stronger dog to follow after, it seems there are quite a few republicans getting fed up with Trump regarding Tariffs and Trade if nothing else.
 

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