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@snood,

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Do you think they should impeach?

Do you think for yourself, apparently not. Thanks for someone else's opinion that people could read on their own.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

The NYT is such a credible source, and guess what, no one cares except the haters.

President Trump on Thursday defended as "well-meaning" a White House official who directed the Navy to obscure the warship USS John S. McCain while Trump was visiting Japan, but he said he had no advance knowledge of the action.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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but he said he had no advance knowledge of the action.

Do you believe him? I bet you do not. I also will put money on it being totally meaningless and probably forgotten about already.

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@coldjoint,

I'd posted that.
And it was you who replied to my post with "guess what, no one cares except the haters".

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@Walter Hinteler,

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And it was you who replied to my post with "guess what, no one cares except the haters".

I know what I said, Walter. Anything else?

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

I know what I said, Walter. Anything else?

Sorry, I didn't notice such.

But you're correct: the president must be coddled, even by disparaging a warship, its crew and a Navy hero.

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@Baldimo,

Baseless opinion only. Dont try to pin your opinion on the rest of the country.

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@MontereyJack,

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Baseless opinion only.

Not a baseless opinion, the majority of Americans don't follow politics as closely as those of us on this site. You will notice the only people chomping at the bit to get Trump are leftists, the liberal MSM, and DNC thugs.

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Dont try to pin your opinion on the rest of the country.

Sorry dude, that is you who is doing that. Most of America doesn't care, all they see are political hacks on both sides of the aisle screaming at the cameras.

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@Baldimo,

Most of america do care. Thats why they have opinions when pollsters askrather than say no opinion.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Most of america do care. Thats why they have opinions when pollsters askrather than say no opinion.

Do the pollsters include all the hang-ups and non-responses, or do they just discard those from the final counts? What about the people who just don't answer the phone because they don't want to deal with unsolicited calls of any kind?

If they reported their numbers as a percentage of total call attempts, the results might read something like, "out of 10,000 people called, 7% agreed, 6% disagreed, 22% gave no answer or hung up before answering, and 65% didn't answer the call."

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@MontereyJack,

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Most of america do care. Thats why they have opinions when pollsters askrather than say no opinion.

Polls? Like the polls that showed Hillary winning the election?

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@Baldimo,

And o recall the fairly revrnt poll whose numbers were about 49 impeach,33 not. People clearly care en masse. Trump is as always underwater in the polls because people do care and dont like what he does.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

And o recall the fairly revrnt poll whose numbers were about 49 impeach,33 not. People clearly care en masse. Trump is as always underwater in the polls because people do care and dont like what he does.

Or because socialists reward their loyal subjects with economic benefits of various kinds, such as workplace favoritism, hiring and promotion preferences, etc.

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@MontereyJack,

Which polls are those, I haven't seen any. Post some.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

It is the thought that he didn't win on his own which offends him so much he resisted all the intelligence into the Russian meddling of the 2016 election. Which is why he obstructed justice to try and stop it all along the way, every chance he could and in some cases tried and was stopped by others in his administration. The fact the US was attacked by Russia in a propaganda war mattered not a bit to him. If Russia had attacked the US in a bid to help Hillary win the election and failed, it would have been a different kettle of fish.

Perhaps.

Or maybe the Democrats are framing him for obstruction just like they framed Scooter Libby for obstruction.

revelette1 wrote:

And you know some posters on this thread act as though there was no reason to suspect Trump in regards to Russia in his public statements and actions both in his campaign and after he was sworn in as President when he in fact gave every appearance of being in favor of Russia. Of course that would make him look guilty. Moreover, there were contacts within the Trump campaign and Russian government and intelligence officials. For some reason those contacts never panned out into a collaboration. So the Russian investigation itself wasn't a witch-hunt, but a legitimate investigation with probable cause to conduct one.

No. When the Democrats abuse the law to try to destroy people who disagree with them, that's a witch hunt.

revelette1 wrote:

Sorry for the rant. personally this whole thing upsets so much, I hate to see someone getting away with something.

Did it upset you when Bill Clinton was not removed from office for committing multiple counts of obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct?

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@snood,

Yes, and I'm not afraid of it causing Trump to be re-elected, it will energize voters on both size for sure, but I don't think he will luck out again. He's let too many of his voters down.

I wish the Dems could come up with a strategy that would put more pressure on the R's, so much so that more of them would have get on the impeachment train. Public pressure is the key IMO. Nancy and Schiff's strategy should be to accuse the R's more often of being complicit rather than to keep pointing out what Trump has done over and over and over.

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@Brand X,

Public pressure is not going to get the Republicans to impeach on obstruction charges when the Democrats have a history of framing innocent Republicans for obstruction.

Public pressure is not going to get the Republicans to impeach on obstruction charges after the Democrats said that Bill Clinton should not be removed from office for committing multiple counts of obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

I wish it were otherwise. I wish we had the same kind of people in office in congress as they had during the Nixon years. But we don't. We have the likes McConnell and Graham.

I wish that Democrats were not the sort of people who abuse the law to conduct witch hunts against people who disagree with them.

Imagine if the Democratic Party actually had ethical standards.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Public pressure is not going to get the Republicans to impeach on obstruction charges when the Democrats have a history of framing innocent Republicans for obstruction.

Public pressure is not going to get the Republicans to impeach on obstruction charges after the Democrats said that Bill Clinton should not be removed from office for committing multiple counts of obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct.

Obstruction is a general charge to levy against anyone who fails to cooperate in fascism. For fascism to work, people have to submit to social pressures. If they resist, they are obstructing fascism. Of course the Dems won't use the term, 'fascism,' because it's taboo.

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@oralloy,

Just looked at the polls. In 2020 44 percent will either defitely vote for trump or consider it. But 54 percent will DEFINITELY NOT vote for him. Looks like american ethical standards are holding firm against trump sleaze

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