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glitterbag
 
  3  
Thu 16 May, 2019 07:38 pm
@oralloy,
Scooter Libby and Oliver North are cretins. Both of them put Americans at risk for their own political ambitions.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 16 May, 2019 07:41 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Both of them put Americans at risk for their own political ambitions.

Like the Democrats with open borders and sanctuary cities?
glitterbag
 
  5  
Thu 16 May, 2019 07:52 pm
@coldjoint,
No, by subverting the goals and lying about their authority in order to trick others into believing they were assisting on authorized missions. They actually got people killed, but I suppose because they are both white males no real harm, no real foul.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 16 May, 2019 08:00 pm
@glitterbag,
Oliver North didn't subvert any goals or lie about his authority. The goal was to prevent Communism from taking over Central America. And that is what he did. Those missions were very much authorized.

Scooter Libby was never involved in any such operation at all. You are just trying to cover up the fact that the Democrats fabricate obstruction charges against innocent people.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 16 May, 2019 08:01 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Scooter Libby and Oliver North are cretins. Both of them put Americans at risk for their own political ambitions.

Nope. Oliver North is a hero who helped save the world from Communism. That's why Democrats hate him so much. They wanted Communism to take over the world and destroy the United States.

Scooter Libby has never harmed anyone and is simply one of the many innocent victims of Democratic witch hunts.

Nice try at avoiding the facts though. E for effort.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 16 May, 2019 08:12 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
They actually got people killed,

You do not count Americans killed by illegals? That's nice.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 16 May, 2019 08:40 pm
Quote:
White House Asking Americans Censored on Social Media to Share Their Stories

Tackle this censorship first.
https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/AFLC_SocialMedia_Censorship_Banner_07-11-16-3-Final-800x412.jpg
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/15/white-house-asking-americans-censored-on-social-media-to-share-their-stories/
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 16 May, 2019 09:36 pm
Quote:
Americans Paid for the Internet, We Deserve Free Speech On It

Quote:
The talking point that Google, Facebook and Twitter are private companies that can discriminate as they please on their private platforms, and that the First Amendment doesn’t apply, is in the air everywhere.

But it overlooks two very simple facts.

The driving force behind the censorship of conservatives isn’t a handful of tech tycoons. It’s elected officials. Senator Kamala Harris offered an example of that in a recent speech where she declared that she would "hold social media platforms accountable" if they contained "hate" or "misinformation".

“Misinformation” is a well-known euphemism among Democrats and the media for conservative political content. It was originally known as “fake news” before President Trump hijacked the term to refer to the media. The recent Poynter list of “unreliable” sites was stacked with conservative sites. Lists like these aren’t hypothetical. Poynter runs the International Fact Checking Network which had been empowered by Facebook and other sites to deplatform conservative content through its ‘fact checks’.

All of this got underway in response to claims by Hillary Clinton and her allies that “fake news” had cost her the election and represented a grave attack on our democracy. The call was quickly taken up by Democrats in the House and the Senate. It’s been commented on supportively by powerful Clinton allies in the tech industry, like Eric Schmidt, the former chairman of Google.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2019/05/americans-paid-for-internet-we-deserve.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FromNyToIsraelSultanRevealsTheStoriesBehindTheNews+%28from+NY+to+Israel+Sultan+Reveals+The+Stories+Behind+the+News%29

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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Thu 16 May, 2019 11:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Gotta say, he's got the xenophobic patter down. NZ has been pretty civilized and free of the inflammatory hate that comes from the xenophobic right, and that's the way they want to keep it. More power to them. Their PM has one of the weirdest accents I've ever heard a native English speaker speak, but her head is screwed on straight. You rock, Kiwis.
oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 16 May, 2019 11:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
Serf nations like New Zealand are not really comparable to free nations like the US.
MontereyJack
 
  5  
Thu 16 May, 2019 11:40 pm
@oralloy,
Your history is crap. Ollie North violated Senate laws and gave aid and comfort to Nicaraguan guerillas suppoorters of the dictatorial Somosa He dealt with the Iranians ro get support for the Somoza forces and they outmaneuvered him to hell and back.And the Nicaraguans finally elected Daniel Ortega in a free election. (He was s not a good president, as it turned out but he was the their free choic eand they rejected the Somosistas) You don't know diddly about Latin America. Don't ta;k about it. The best thing Ollie North did was exp;ose the corrupyion at the heart of the NRA leadership
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 17 May, 2019 12:06 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Your history is crap.

Leftists always find history inconvenient. I'm lucky you guys don't have as much power as Stalin did. I'd be the first person you guys silenced.


MontereyJack wrote:
Ollie North violated Senate laws and gave aid and comfort to Nicaraguan guerillas suppoorters of the dictatorial Somosa

Yes. And in doing so he kept Central America free of Communism.

Three cheers for Ollie North!


MontereyJack wrote:
He dealt with the Iranians to get support for the Somoza forces and they outmaneuvered him to hell and back.

He dealt with the Iranians to get our hostages freed. And he got our hostages freed.

I am sure that the left would prefer it if Iran continued to hold Americans hostage even today. I doubt that the families of the hostages would agree however.


MontereyJack wrote:
You don't know diddly about Latin America.

You can't point out a single fact that I'm wrong about.


MontereyJack wrote:
Don't talk about it.

Request denied.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 17 May, 2019 04:00 am
@oralloy,
The contras lost as they deserved to. They were another of the uber-authoritarian regimes that have plagued Latin America for the benefit of the small corrupt elites for generatpns. Ortega won in the end, and the country did not turn communist. Your whole premise is wrong, as usual. And North was illegal. Nit a hero, an inept cocksure fool supportingthe corrupt murderous side. And disobeying US law to do it.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Fri 17 May, 2019 04:09 am
@oralloy,
NZ lives in peace, harmony, prosperity and democracy. They support their government's efforts to keep democracy vibrant. They don't have mass shootings. They don't go around killing people in houses of worship r schools or businesses. It takes an Aussie right wing fanatic to do that. They aren't comparable to the US because they're better at it than we are.
revelette1
 
  2  
Fri 17 May, 2019 05:46 am
An odd little twist in the Mueller investigation.

Judge confirms Trump associate gave feds bin Laden’s number
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 17 May, 2019 06:47 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
The contras lost as they deserved to. They were another of the uber-authoritarian regimes that have plagued Latin America for the benefit of the small corrupt elites for generations.

Meh. So what?

We weren't supporting the Contras because we thought they were good people fighting a worthy cause. We supported them because we needed to keep Communism out of Central America.

By all accounts the Contras were monstrous. I certainly don't care if the Contras were defeated in the end. The point was to defeat Communism (and to do so before it destroyed us).

That goal was achieved.


MontereyJack wrote:
Ortega won in the end, and the country did not turn communist.

The Cold War was over by 2007.

Thanks to heroes like Oliver North, the Democrats failed in their efforts to help the Communists destroy America.


MontereyJack wrote:
Your whole premise is wrong, as usual.

Your inability to point out anything that I'm wrong about speaks for itself.


MontereyJack wrote:
And North was illegal.

Who cares? The law in question was maliciously designed to destroy the United States. Oliver North is a hero for breaking it.


MontereyJack wrote:
Not a hero,

Helping to save the world from Communism makes him a hero in the eyes of Americans. Only leftists who were hoping to see America be destroyed are upset over his actions.


MontereyJack wrote:
an inept cocksure fool supporting the corrupt murderous side.

He did what it took to prevent Central America from falling to Communism.


MontereyJack wrote:
And disobeying US law to do it.

Good. Let's put the people who passed that treasonous law in prison.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Fri 17 May, 2019 06:49 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
NZ lives in peace, harmony, prosperity and democracy. They support their government's efforts to keep democracy vibrant. They don't have mass shootings. They don't go around killing people in houses of worship r schools or businesses. It takes an Aussie right wing fanatic to do that. They aren't comparable to the US because they're better at it than we are.

I'm sure they're all happy little serfs.

Americans, on the other hand, aren't serfs.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Fri 17 May, 2019 08:34 am
@oralloy,
All the monstrous authoritarian regimes in latin americ had to do ro get us support was SAY the freedom fighterswere communist. That was not true. Which meant that the cold warriors in dc fell for lies again and again and fucked over latiin americans again and again
As reagan and north did. Which led in no small part to the ramshackle economies theyre fleeing today. Olllie north remains a villain. The one heroic thing he ever did is expose the corruption and exploitation in the core group of leaders of the NRA



georgeob1
 
  0  
Fri 17 May, 2019 09:18 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Olllie north remains a villain. The one heroic thing he ever did is expose the corruption and exploitation in the core group of leaders of the NRA

Well he was middle weight boxing champion at the Naval Academy in ~ 1968, beating Author and later Senator Jim Web for the title.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Fri 17 May, 2019 10:47 am
@georgeob1,
not sure that got him any hero status,
 

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