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snood
 
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Wed 1 May, 2019 05:04 pm
@blatham,
Supremely convenient
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blatham
 
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Wed 1 May, 2019 05:15 pm
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Comey Calls Trump a Devourer of Souls
By Ed Kilgore

In an extraordinarily well-timed piece of commentary — given Attorney General William Barr’s efforts before the Senate Judiciary Committee to defend the shreds of honor he retains after 11 weeks as Donald Trump’s attorney general — the New York Times published an op-ed by former FBI director James Comey that probes the president’s technique for submitting subordinates to his will. Comey has never made a secret of his disdain for Trump. But now he’s turning his attention to people he once deeply respected to explore — not without sympathy — why they’ve now lost his respect in Trump’s service.

Mentioning Barr and Rod Rosenstein (who, it should be noted, recommended that Comey be fired in order to please the king by slaying a meddlesome subordinate) in particular, Comey doesn’t mince words:
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What happened to these people?

I don’t know for sure. People are complicated, so the answer is most likely complicated. But I have some idea from four months of working close to Mr. Trump and many more months of watching him shape others.

Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man.

But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think that’s at least part of what we’ve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength can’t resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattis’s to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.

Comey admits he felt the president gnawing at his own soul:
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It starts with your sitting silent while he lies, both in public and private, making you complicit by your silence …

Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it — this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room.

I must have agreed that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history because I didn’t challenge that. Everyone must agree that he has been treated very unfairly. The web building never stops.

Again, Comey cites Mattis as the honorable exception to the general rule of self-corruption:
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While the entire world is watching, you do what everyone else around the table does — you talk about how amazing the leader is and what an honor it is to be associated with him.

Sure, you notice that Mr. Mattis never actually praises the president, always speaking instead of the honor of representing the men and women of our military. But he’s a special case, right? Former Marine general and all. No way the rest of us could get away with that. So you praise, while the world watches, and the web gets tighter.

Comey writes knowingly of the rationalizations that people around Trump — and his allies in Congress — deploy to forgive themselves for what they know is cooperation in serial lies and travesties, and to avoid being caught out in their hypocrisy by the ever-suspicious, jealous god in the Oval Office. That leads to more insincere flattery of the all-powerful and infallible one, and very quickly to the inability to maintain any integrity. “And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.”

I certainly cannot recall any former high-ranking government official ever describing a president and his top officials with this sort of language. When you remember that Comey was until recently a Republican careerist and a close associate of many of those who still serve this president and the party he has conquered, it’s that much more remarkable. It offers somber mood music to the spectacle we are all witnessing as the Trump administration bullies its way through crimes and misdemeanors and intensely polarizing rhetoric in hopes of winning the Devourer of Souls a second term as president.
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Olivier5
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 01:09 am
@hightor,
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And when is lying to sway anyone considered "cheating"? 

Errr... only when Trump does it???
izzythepush
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 01:13 am
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US Attorney General William Barr has refused to testify to the Democratic-led House Judiciary Committee on his handling of the Russia inquiry.

Mr Barr had previously objected to a plan for lawyers to ask questions at Thursday's hearing.

Committee chairman Jerrold Nadler accused the White House of a "complete stonewalling of Congress".

The standoff raises the prospect that Mr Barr, America's top legal official, could be held in contempt of Congress.

The Justice Department also said that it would not comply with a subpoena issued by Mr Nadler asking for an unredacted version of Mr Mueller's report as well as files from the investigation.

On Wednesday, Mr Barr was grilled by a Senate panel about his decision to clear President Donald Trump of obstruction of justice.

His defence of his actions before the Republican-led Senate Justice Committee came after Special Counsel Robert Mueller - who led the investigative hunt for links between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia - expressed frustration over the report summary.

Mr Mueller is expected to testify to Congress later this month.

A Department of Justice statement said Mr Nadler had placed conditions on the House Judiciary Committee hearing that were "unprecedented and unnecessary".

The department said that the planned move to have attorneys question Mr Barr was unnecessary because most of the committee members were themselves lawyers.

However, Mr Nadler told reporters he believed that Mr Barr was afraid to testify on Thursday given "how dishonest he has been".

"He is terrified of having to face a skilled attorney," he said, adding: "We plan on subpoenaing him if he decides not to show up. He can run but he can't hide."

"I hope and expect that the attorney general will think overnight and will be there as well," Mr Nadler said.

Mr Barr testified for the first time on Wednesday since the release of Mr Mueller's 448-page report.

The special counsel did not establish any collusion between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign.

However, the report did not exonerate the president of obstruction of justice. It concluded the Republican president had repeatedly intervened with an inquiry that he feared would doom his presidency.

Mr Barr, who was appointed by Mr Trump, told the Senate Judiciary Committee he was "frankly surprised" Mr Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether the president had tried to obstruct justice.

The attorney general added that he was "absolutely" confident in his own judgment that Mr Trump did not unlawfully attempt to impede the investigation.

"I think that if he felt that he shouldn't go down the path of making a traditional prosecutorial decision, then he shouldn't have investigated," he said.

Mr Barr's testimony came after a letter he had received from Mr Mueller was made public.

In the document, the special counsel stated that Mr Barr's summary "did not fully capture the context, nature and substance" of his report's findings, and caused "public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation".

The letter, dated 27 March, expressed Mr Mueller's frustration that Mr Barr had not released the executive summaries prepared by the special counsel's team.

During the hearing, Mr Barr said that Mr Mueller was not concerned with the accuracy of the summary, but with how it was being reported by media.

"My understanding was his concern was not the accuracy of the statement of the findings in my letter, but that he wanted more out there to provide additional context to explain his reasoning and why he didn't reach a decision on obstruction," he said.

Mr Barr argued that the objections to his summary should be nullified by the release of the report itself, calling the controversy surrounding the summary, and the consequent hearings, "mind-bendingly bizarre".

"I made clear from the beginning that I was putting out the report, as much of the report as I could, and it was clear it was going to take three weeks or so, maybe four, to do that," Mr Barr said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48128839
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hightor
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 02:28 am
@Lash,
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Cause polling is only used for elections, not to provide supposedly useful data to the general public on an array of issues in their daily lives...

You asked a question, whether I thought polling was being used against me:
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...maybe not quite as blatantly as it’s being used against Bernie?

Mr. Sanders is a politician. I'm nobody. No, I don't think polling is being used "against me". Everything isn't about me.
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Astonishingly shallow.

You may be a deep thinker but I don't share your opinion on this matter. If you feel that polling is being used against you, you haven't provided any evidence to show how it is being used against me.
Builder
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 02:55 am
So it's a he said - she said contest?

Relevant contemporary events?

I'm seeing a battle of egos here,
but zero effort to assemble rational arguments.
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Lash
 
  0  
Thu 2 May, 2019 03:26 am
@hightor,
It doesn’t bother you that *polls* are being manipulated to mislead the public about an election?

Here’s your proof—as if you really needed it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/articles/polling-public-opinion-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/amp/

If you took a public opinion poll about polls, odds are that a majority would offer some rather unfavorable views of pollsters and the uses to which their work is put. Many potential respondents might simply slam down their telephones. Yet if you asked whether politicians, business leaders, and journalists should pay attention to the people’s voices, almost everyone would say yes. And if you then asked whether polls are, at least, one tool through which the wishes of the people can be discerned, a reluctant majority would probably say yes to that too.

Several conundrums of public opinion polling are enfolded in this hypothetical tale. People of all kinds, activists and ordinary citizens alike, regularly cite polls, especially those that find them in the majority. But people are deeply skeptical of polls, especially when opinion moves in the “wrong” direction.

Some of their doubts are about pollsters’ methods. Do they ask the right questions? Are they manipulating the wording of questions to get the responses they want? And whom did they interview? Some of the doubts are wrapped up in a mistrust of the political parties, marketers, and media giants that pay for the polls.

The imaginary example also shows that it matters greatly how the pollsters ask their questions. Sometimes, respondents offer opinions on subjects about which they have not thought much and do not care at all. People sometimes answer pollsters’ questions just to be polite—because they figure they probably ought to have an opinion. That gives pollsters a lot of running room to “manufacture” opinion, especially on issues of narrow rather than wide concern.

Even when people have strong views, a single polling question rarely captures those views well. Human beings are complicated and so are their opinions. Using the findings of our example, enemies of polls could cite the public’s doubts to “prove” that the public is against polls. Friends of polls could note that the public, however grudgingly, agrees that polls are one tool for gauging public opinion and that leaders should consult public opinion. They could thus “prove” that the public embraces polls. Both ways of looking at the findings would use reality to distort reality.

This issue of the Brookings Review examines how polls work, what they can teach us about public opinion, and what role public opinion does and should play in our democracy. We bring to this magazine a straightforward bias in favor of polling, shaped, in part, by our early professional experiences. Mann spent much of his graduate school time at the University of Michigan’s Survey Research Center and then conducted polls for congressional candidates in the 1970s. Dionne did graduate work with a heavy focus on public opinion and helped start the New York Times/CBS News Poll in 1975. We share a belief that the study of what citizens think about politics and policy is a genuine contribution to democracy. It’s especially important in democracies whose politicians claim their mandates from the people and regularly insist that they represent the views and interests of the people. To ask the people, with regularity, for their own thoughts strikes us as being both useful and a check on the claims of those in power.

But it is precisely because of our respect for polling that we are disturbed by many things done in its name. When interest groups commission pollsters to ask leading questions to gather “scientific” proof that the public agrees with whatever demand they are making on government, they demean polling and mislead the public. When analysts, sometimes innocently, use poll numbers as a definitive guide to public opinion even on issues to which most people have given little thought, they are writing fiction more than citing fact. When political consultants use information gathered through polling and focus groups to camouflage their clients’ controversial policies with soothing, symbol-laden, and misleading rhetoric, they frustrate democratic deliberation.
Olivier5
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 03:31 am
@Lash,
Pretty amazing how people got so used to being lied to that they don't see it as a problem anymore. Trump builds upon this.
Lash
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 03:43 am
@Olivier5,
I really find this so jarring. This is how you slip into a dystopian society. You don’t see these *huge moves* as anything problematic —because they’re hurting *other* people. They *benefit* you temporarily.

And then it’s your turn.

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Lash
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 03:49 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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And when is lying to sway anyone considered "cheating"? 

Errr... only when Trump does it???

Our society loses so many degrees of personal and human rights when we have a universal boogeyman to fight. We lost with 911–and fell prey to unprecedented surveillance and privacy losses.

We’ve lost even more of our civil society under the auspices of the resistance against Trump and the fight against Bernie Sanders.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 04:02 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

We lost with 911–and fell prey to unprecedented surveillance and privacy losses.


Which is nothing compared to what happened to Iraq.
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blatham
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 04:11 am
@Lash,
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We’ve lost even more of our civil society under the auspices of the resistance against Trump and the fight against Bernie Sanders.
Poor Donald. Poor Bernie. Victims both. And now American civil society is under threat. Because polling.

This has been a parade of insanity. Obviously polling or statistics can be manipulated and used for nefarious purposes. So can sentences. People lie.
So can photographs. So can movies or books. All this is some sort of revelation?

The Mann/Dionne piece is very good but it doesn't "prove" anything (no specific cases are mentioned). Such cases wouldn't be hard to find. Rasmussen, for one example, almost always polls in the direction that pleases Republicans (and Rasmussen himself was a regular celebrity speaker on the Weekly Standard cruises for rich or elderly Republicans).

As Mann/Dionne note, the polling that person X or persona Y tend to object to is that which presents findings that are unwelcome to persons X and Y. But that's pretty much the opposite of a scientific metric, ain't it?

Olivier5
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 04:34 am
@Lash,
Trump is a recent development of a much older disease. Bush junior lied to the people and the world to get his war of choice in Iraq, and got away with it. He should have done some serious jail time for that, but didn't. The whole US press gobbled and relayed his lies, and a great number of senators and house reps too. Only a tiny minority had the intellectual honesty to reject those lies: Obama, Sanders and fdw others.

As a result of that and many other lies (eg on climate change) the US is a nation accustomed to being lied to.


hightor
 
  3  
Thu 2 May, 2019 04:40 am
@Lash,
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It doesn’t bother you that *polls* are being manipulated to mislead the public about an election?

No more than a host of other characteristics of late stage capitalism bother me. I'm not going to live with my fists clenched and a perpetual scowl on my face because politicians lie, or the system is rigged, or the rich get away with everything. This is the culture we live in. I don't like it but I don't feel personally aggrieved about it. As I said, it's not exclusively about me. We're all victims — the planet itself is victimized by exponential human greed.

Yes, I'm well aware of the limits of the polling process and how polls are manipulated to achieve certain results or perceptions. Having once worked in market research, I take all polls with a grain of salt. Some are more reliable than others. When we have complete access to the questions and the follow-ups, when we know who the sponsors are, when we judge the pertinence of the issues being examined, then we can make better assessments of the results and what they mean.

The polls which incensed you didn't appear to me as attempts to sway or deceive, because the numbers were close and anybody who gave a damn could look at them and detect a misleading headline. Nor did I see the results splashed all over the media. On almost any day you can hear some news story which starts out, "A new opinion poll from the Zilch Institute says that..." The chances are I'll listen to what they say, try to figure who profits from the conclusion, and turn my attention back to what I was doing. What I'm not going to do is immediately try to adjust my outlook to confirm to the result of the poll. "Ooh, Biden's one point ahead of Sanders in a poll of the Inuit community — I'm going to shift my support!"
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Lash
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 04:56 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

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We’ve lost even more of our civil society under the auspices of the resistance against Trump and the fight against Bernie Sanders.
Poor Donald. Poor Bernie. Victims both. And now American civil society is under threat. Because polling.

This has been a parade of insanity. Obviously polling or statistics can be manipulated and used for nefarious purposes. So can sentences. People lie.
So can photographs. So can movies or books. All this is some sort of revelation?
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It looks like people like you are so removed from basic right and wrong, you obviously are clueless about how this affects you. When your child or your dry cleaner or your president or a pollster lies, are you just going to shrug and say, “Ah well. That’s human nature, nothing new here”? You should respond to all of them, but you approve the lies that go your way and bluster and speak

against the ones that you don’t like. You and the rest of us shape our society based on what we raise our voices for and against. You like the manipulated polls now, because your agenda is against the person being cheated. If you approve this cheating because it suits you now, you are also strengthening cheating polls in every situation. We can’t just grin about the short-term benefits we feel like we’re getting when something unfair happens to someone else; we have to ask ourselves how we’ll feel when this weapon is turned against us.

You don’t seem to understand that the victims are only very temporarily Donald and Bernie; the real victim is the future of American society. No one here in any position of power-including the media and now pollsters-are held accountable for what they do. Political tribalists are so narrow in their thinking, they approve any madness that temporarily hurts a politician they hate, while they turn a blind eye to the simultaneous erosion of their own human rights.

izzythepush
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 05:01 am
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An ex-CIA agent has pleaded guilty to spying for China, the US justice department says, in a case believed to be linked to the dismantling of a US espionage network.

Jerry Chun Shing Lee, 54, left the CIA in 2007 to live in Hong Kong, where he was recruited by Chinese agents.

Prosecutors say the naturalised US citizen was then paid to divulge information on US covert assets.

This led China to bring down a network of informants between 2010 and 2012.

About 20 informants were killed or jailed during that period - one of the most disastrous failures of US intelligence in recent years.

The US Assistant Attorney General for National Security, John Demers, said Lee's case was the third involving US agents and China in less than a year.

"Every one of these cases is a tragic betrayal of country and colleagues," he said.

Lee, who worked for the CIA between 1994 and 2007, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to deliver national defence information to aid a foreign government in a court in Virginia on Wednesday, the justice department said in a statement.

It said Lee was contacted by the Chinese intelligence agents in 2010. They offered him money, promising to take care of him "for life" in exchange for the required secret information. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were deposited in his Hong Kong bank account between May 2010 and December 2013.

Mr Lee created a document containing information about CIA activities, including locations to which US agents would be assigned.

In 2012, FBI agents searched a hotel room in Hawaii registered in Mr Lee's name and found a USB drive. Investigators found the document on unallocated space in the drive, suggesting it had been deleted.

The search also revealed Lee to have a day planner and address book containing notes of intelligence provided by CIA agents, their true identities, operational meeting locations and phone numbers, and information about covert facilities.

Lee was interviewed by CIA officers in 2012 during which he said he had met Chinese intelligence officers but concealed the fact that they had set him tasks, the justice department said. In 2013 he first denied knowing about the document on his USB drive and then admitted he had created it but said he had never handed it on to Chinese agents.

Mr Lee was arrested at New York's JFK airport in January 2018. He will be sentenced in August.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48130068
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blatham
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 05:11 am
@Lash,
Your continuing defense of Trump is, again, noticed. Way to go, progressive girl.

Are you going to disregard all polling? We already know you won't (having posted them previously).

If you accept some and reject others, what tools will you use to differentiate them? Your degree in statistics? All those books in your library dedicated to the study of polling protocols and theory?

Let's make a prediction. When polls show Sanders doing well, you'll like them. Where others are seen to be outpacing Sanders, they will be evil and involved in a conspiracy with the DNC.
blatham
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 05:14 am
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The Threat of Bill Barr’s Lawlessness Is Much Worse Than You Think
Today’s performance from Bill Barr is a harbinger of escalating assaults and perversions of the rule of law we will see unfold over the next 20 months and possibly – depending on the results of the 2020 election – for years to come. An article posted this evening in the Times gives us a first look at deeds that will make everything we’ve seen in the last 30 months seem mild or quaint by comparison.

The details are circuitous and murky. Let me try to summarize and highlight the key points.


In the late Obama administration Joe Biden was the point man on pushing anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. Part of that focused on ousting what most Western countries believed was a corrupt chief prosecutor. Among the many companies the prosecutor was investigating was one that had a relationship with Biden’s son, Hunter. The conflict of interest argument is strained. But at least the appearance issue worried State Department officials at the time, according to the Times. The prosecutor eventually was booted and the new guy dropped that and many other probes.

Fast forward to today. Rudy Giuliani, the President’s personal lawyer has been meeting with Ukrainian officials repeatedly and dangling the possibility of better relations with President Trump if they will reopen the investigation into the Hunter Biden-affiliated company. Let’s repeat that. The President’s personal lawyer is going abroad and using the lure of better treatment from President Trump to get them to reopen an investigation that could damage the man who is possibly Trump’s presidential competitor next year.

That’s not all.

Giuliani and Trump have asked Attorney General Bill Barr to get the material Ukrainian prosecutors have assembled and start his own investigation in the US.

Let’s review.

Possible sketchy dealings from several years ago, long since settled legally and in the past. Giuliani starts meeting with Ukrainian officials who are for reasons we all understand desperate for favorable treatment from President Trump. He tells them that the way to get better treatment is to start an investigation into the Joe Biden’s son. Giuliani routinely briefs President Trump on his activities. They both go to Bill Barr and start pushing Barr to piggy back on the Ukrainian investigation and start his own probe in the US.

Here are key paragraphs from the Times piece which give you some flavor.

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The Trump team’s efforts to draw attention to the Bidens’ work in Ukraine, which is already yielding coverage in conservative media, has been led partly by Rudolph W. Giuliani, who served as a lawyer for Mr. Trump in the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. Giuliani’s involvement raises questions about whether Mr. Trump is endorsing an effort to push a foreign government to proceed with a case that could hurt a political opponent at home.

Mr. Giuliani has discussed the Burisma investigation, and its intersection with the Bidens, with the ousted Ukrainian prosecutor general and the current prosecutor. He met with the current prosecutor multiple times in New York this year. The current prosecutor general later told associates that, during one of the meetings, Mr. Giuliani called Mr. Trump excitedly to brief him on his findings, according to people familiar with the conversations.

Mr. Giuliani declined to comment on any such phone call with Mr. Trump, but acknowledged that he has discussed the matter with the president on multiple occasions. Mr. Trump, in turn, recently suggested he would like Attorney General William P. Barr to look into the material gathered by the Ukrainian prosecutors — echoing repeated calls from Mr. Giuliani for the Justice Department to investigate the Bidens’ Ukrainian work and other connections between Ukraine and the United States.

Mr. Giuliani said he got involved because he was seeking to counter the Mueller investigation with evidence that Democrats conspired with sympathetic Ukrainians to help initiate what became the special counsel’s inquiry.


I don’t think we need to assume that Hunter Biden is the cleanest guy in the world. I have no idea. We know that lots of Americans were making money in semi-lawless Ukraine over the last decade. The idea that Biden was doing anything to help his son seems extremely strained. But that’s not really the point. The President’s private lawyer, unbound by any government regulation or responsibilities, is practicing unauthorized foreign policy on the President’s behalf, the goal of which is to use the President’s power to get other countries to attack his political enemies at home. Both Trump and Giuliani are then asking Bill Barr to open companion investigations targeting Trump’s political enemies.

This is how corrupt, broken states operate, banana republics. Everything we’ve seen from Bill Barr tells us he will happily participate in this kind of corruption. Meanwhile, Giuliani spends lots of his time visiting foreign capitals in the last 18 months, nominally on private business. We have almost no visibility into what most of those visits are about. This is one example. What other stuff don’t we know about?

We hear a lot about the next time foreign corruption or interference gets tied up in US elections, guarding against Russian meddling, hacking of elections, whatever. Pretty clearly it’s already happening. Bill Barr’s handling of the Mueller Report is getting all the attention. We’re only learning some of the details now. But the Mueller is hardly the only thing Barr’s working on. He was unable or unwilling to answer today whether the President or other White House officials had asked him to open other investigations. Sounds like President Trump and Giuliani have already pressed him to get cracking on this. No surprise. He’s already begun his own personal investigations into the people who started the counter-intelligence investigation into Trump. All of this is thoroughly corrupt. Barr is happy to partake in all of it. He was a cover-up man in the old days. What’s clear now is that he’s been marinating in the Fox/GOP soup for the last two decades and is thoroughly part of the corruption Trump and his version of the GOP represents.

This will all be much, much worse than we expect.
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hightor
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 05:16 am
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Political tribalists are so narrow in their thinking, they approve any madness that temporarily hurts a politician they hate, while they turn a blind eye to the simultaneous erosion of their own human rights.

Reminds me of some of the anti-Clinton Dems who were so happy to see Russia hack the DNC and give the results to wikileaks.
blatham
 
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Thu 2 May, 2019 05:29 am
A little anecdote from Canada

On my final day in the hospital, I was asked to fill out a form with a list of questions, including "Do you sometimes feel anxious?". This was asked either in relationship to heart issues and/or my age. The intention was to gain more patient information and to help certain types of patients post-op (with advices, etc). After I'd filled in my answers, the attending nurse asked me about my answer to this particular question. I'd answered, "Yes, I sometimes feel anxious". As it happened, my surgeon was in the room at this point.

I said, "Am I sometimes anxious? Are you kidding? Donald Trump is president of the United States". Neither the nurse nor surgeon thought my answer irrelevant or wrong.

I have met no one here over the last two years who thinks Trump is anything but a clown and a profound danger. By far the most explanatory answer to why this is so is that Fox is pretty much absent in our national discourse.


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