@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Quote: ISIS and al Qaeda would have absolutely nothing on the Zionists.
When is the last time Israel burned anyone alive, made a video of it, and released it on the internet? You are quite simply as full of **** as you are with hate.
I was referring to oralloy's scenario. When Israelis burn anyone alive or stone anyone to death they tend to keep it on the down-low.
Hate oppression.
WALLACE: You were there, of what the Republicans did to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on Benghazi, on Fast and Furious. And they got some things done despite the fact that these were aggressive partisan investigations.
MULVANEY: Well, we didn’t get very much done. Listen, I’ll be the first to admit that when the tea party wave, of which I was one, got here in 2011, the last thing we were interested in was giving President Obama legislative successes.
@coldjoint,
Quote:If Egypt kills Palestinians because they consider them terrorists why can't Israel?
Israel can, and does, kill Palestinians it considers terrorists. The criticism arises from the rather loose definition of a "Palestinian terrorist" which has resulted in the IDF killing innocent civilians. (Just like the
real Palestinian terrorists.) Gaza isn't much more than a prison camp and Israel is rightly criticized for the conditions it imposes on the territory. Arab citizens of Israel are treated as second class and deprived of the freedoms enjoyed by Jewish citizens so there is criticism originating from that quarter as well. And bear in mind that there is a substantial number of Israeli Jews who reject Likud policies and seek better status for Arabs and a more inclusive society.
@oralloy,
All of them will get Israeli citizenship ultimately, even the guys in area A.
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:The resolutions and agreements call for the return of refugees. The land for peace are separate agreements.
That is incorrect. There is no requirement that Israel accept any refugees.
UN Security Council resolutions call for Israel to give up land
and call for the Palestinians to peacefully accept Israel.
That is incorrect. UNSC resolutions as well as other accords call for a return and equal rights.
One thing is accepting Israel, quite another is accepting an ethnocentrically exclusive, necessarily oppressive state.
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:The two state solution was dead before it was even conceived.
The world only asks Israel to give up land as part of a two-state solution.
No two-state solution means Israel gets to keep Areas B and C for themselves.
Like I said, the two state solution was dead before it was even conceived.
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:I was referring to oralloy's scenario.
Israel has every right to defend themselves from aggressors.
InfraBlue wrote:When Israelis burn anyone alive or stone anyone to death they tend to keep it on the down-low.
Israel only harms people in self defense.
InfraBlue wrote:Hate oppression.
Not when Israel's very existence is defined as oppression.
@hightor,
hightor wrote:The criticism arises from the rather loose definition of a "Palestinian terrorist" which has resulted in the IDF killing innocent civilians.
Can you produce any examples of Israel mistakenly labeling someone as a terrorist?
hightor wrote:Gaza isn't much more than a prison camp and Israel is rightly criticized for the conditions it imposes on the territory.
Nonsense. Blockades are lawful acts of war. Israel has the right to defend themselves from Palestinian aggression.
hightor wrote:Arab citizens of Israel are treated as second class and deprived of the freedoms enjoyed by Jewish citizens so there is criticism originating from that quarter as well. And bear in mind that there is a substantial number of Israeli Jews who reject Likud policies and seek better status for Arabs and a more inclusive society.
I advise people of other religions who want to live in Israel to convert to Judaism.
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:All of them will get Israeli citizenship ultimately, even the guys in area A.
No they won't. No one has any authority to make Israel accept foreigners as citizens.
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:That is incorrect. UNSC resolutions as well as other accords call for a return and equal rights.
Nonsense. Cite a UN Security Council resolution that calls for Israel to allow Palestinians to return to Israeli territory.
InfraBlue wrote:One thing is accepting Israel, quite another is accepting an ethnocentrically exclusive, necessarily oppressive state.
When you define Israel as oppressive and refuse to accept it, you make the two-state solution impossible.
Since the world will not require Israel to give up any land outside the context of a two-state solution, Israel gets to keep the land for themselves.
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:Like I said, the two state solution was dead before it was even conceived.
That means Israel gets to keep the land for themselves. They were only required to give up land as part of a two-state solution.
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You hate Jews. No other excuse for the manufactured lies and fairy tales from Pallywood.
If anything, I hate oppression. The Zionists' oppression of the Palestinian people isn't a fairy tale, it's a living nightmare.
Say NO to oppression.
@coldjoint,
Quote:Why does Israel allow them in their government then?
Because they represent around 20% of the population of the country. I said they were treated like 2nd class citizens, not 3rd class.
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:The Zionists' oppression of the Palestinian people isn't a fairy tale, it's a living nightmare.
Oh please. Not being allowed to murder Jews is hardly a nightmare.
InfraBlue wrote:Say NO to oppression.
Not when Israel's very existence is defined as oppression.
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:I was referring to oralloy's scenario.
Israel has every right to defend themselves from aggressors.
It will go down defending its oppressive existence.
oralloy wrote:InfraBlue wrote:When Israelis burn anyone alive or stone anyone to death they tend to keep it on the down-low.
Israel only harms people in self defense.
Israelis burn Palestinians alive and stone Palestinians to death because of their hatred of them.
oralloy wrote:InfraBlue wrote:Hate oppression.
Not when Israel's very existence is defined as oppression.
The way Israel defines itself, its very existence is oppressive.
