@revelette1,
USA Today wrote:CINCINNATI -- Native American activist Nathan Phillips says he does not want to meet with students from Covington Catholic High School.
Cincinnati restaurateur Jeff Ruby had invited Phillips to "break bread and make amends" with the students after short clips of an incident between students at the Park Hills all-boy high school and Phillips at the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington D.C. went viral.
While I guess a business owner can't be faulted for trying to drum up business with a publicity stunt, it should be noted that there is no need for any of these students to make amends. They did nothing wrong.
USA Today wrote:Many social media users interpreted and Phillips maintains that the students were harassing him.
He went up to the students and started acting goofy. They weren't harassing him.
USA Today wrote:"He (Sandmann) needs to put out a different statement," said Phillips, who has said he is a Vietnam Veteran. "I'm disappointed with his statement. He didn't accept any responsibility. That lack of responsibility, I don't accept it."
The kid didn't do anything other than stand there with a WTF look on his face after the guy walked up to him and started doing a goofy dance. There is nothing that the kid needs to accept responsibility for.
USA Today wrote:"At first I wanted the teachers and chaperones to be reprimanded, some fired, for letting this happen," Phillips said. "For the students, I was against any expulsions, but now I have to revisit that."
Who cares what that freak thinks?
The school administration certainly isn't going to care what he thinks.
USA Today wrote:"He (Sandmann) stole my narrative," Phillips said. "From the time I hit that first beat of the drum until I hit the last beat, I was in prayer. Now all of a sudden, he's the prayer guy and the passive one."
Yes. The guy who stood there and did nothing was the passive one.
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revelette1 wrote:Seems to me the Native American elder was not just saying the Catholic Students were throwing racist taunts, he was saying both groups, the Catholic Students and the Black Hebrew Israelites were both in a racist fight so to speak. (my words)
Videos only show racist taunts from the black thugs. The Catholic students responded with high school sports chants.
revelette1 wrote:He tried to step in the middle of it by chanting a prayer and then we got that smirking fellow and some around the Native American elder jumping up and down around him in a mock Indian dance. The students claim they were just having fun not mocking Native Americans.
How do you expect kids to react when some weirdo walks up to them and starts acting goofy?
revelette1 wrote:Racist always have comeback answer to weasel out of their actions and words.
This tendency of leftists to falsely accuse the entire world of racism is pretty silly.
@coldjoint,
Quote:Maybe the Media Should Stop Blaming Facebook and Russian Trolls For Circulating Fake News
But they
have circulated fake news so why should they now be exempt from criticism?
Quote:But Facebook did not perpetuate a story that Michael Cohen had told Bob Mueller that the President ordered Cohen to lie to Congress. Bob Mueller says that story is inaccurate. It did not come from Russian trolls or Facebook, but from BuzzFeed News as circulated widely by multiple media outlets, including CNN.
Reporters filing an incorrect story doesn't amount to "fake news" of the sort that Facebook ran, which originated at the IRA in St. Petersburg and other troll farms. BuzzFeed has yet to retract the story and we don't know what part or parts of the story Mueller's office was referring to. Be patient, it will all come out eventually.
Quote:Facebook did not attempt to destroy the lives of some high school kids from Kentucky because of fake videos. The Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, and others did that. They took short snippets of a video taken out of context, believed the lies of progressive activists, and went after some kids from Kentucky.
No one "tried to destroy anyone's lives" nor did anyone "go after" some kids; Erickson really should get a hold of himself and turn down the volume. Now you have a situation where there are multiple accounts of what happened and who did what to who. Why? Because the media was covering a very confusing mob scene and relied on second hand reports as the videos (which weren't "fake") went viral. In retrospect it may not have even amounted to anything worth reporting — but, with multiple marches and protests occurring and stories spreading across social media it all got out of hand.
It's interesting how much attention a story like this gets because it's in the mainstream news while so much of the fake news spread on social media just stays below the horizon, and continues to be spread, click by click, around the world. It's really much more dangerous.
@revelette1,
That's what the rightwing always does, complain of bias where there is none. The truth is that America has the most right wing media in the developed world. Most would describe CNN as centre right, but more right than centre.
While we're at it A2K is the most right wing forum I've ever been on. On most of the forums I frequent a lot of the far right posters would have been banned for posting Nazi propaganda. Yet here they're free to do so.
Like CNN A2K is centre right, but more right than centre.
@izzythepush,
To the world, this site probably is seen as more right wing than most sites. But here in the 'States' (is that how the US is referred to by ordinary people outside it?)it is probably left to the far left with some extreme right wingers on it and used to be more but, some normal right wing still participate.
@revelette1,
Most people refer to America or The States, I don't think one is used more than the other.
New momentum for Equal Rights Amendment
BY LYDIA WHEELER - 01/22/19 06:00 AM EST 4,687
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Equal rights for women could soon be enshrined in the Constitution.
Congress passed the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) almost 47 years ago to establish gender equality under the law, and state support is closing in on clearing a crucial obstacle.
The Virginia Senate passed a resolution last week to ratify the ERA, which would make gender equality the law of the land. If the House follows suit, the commonwealth would become the 38th state needed for ratification.
The proposal was rejected 4-2 by Republicans on a Virginia House subcommittee on Tuesday morning. But The Washington Post reported that the two Democrats on the committee who supported the measure expressed hope the full committee will revive the legislation.
Article V of the Constitution allows for amendments approved by two-thirds of both the U.S. House and Senate and ratified by three-fourths of the 50 states.
But some say it’s not a done deal even if one more state ratifies the ERA.
That’s because the amendment Congress passed in 1972 has expired, and some states have rescinded their ratifications.
Legal experts say Congress has to remove that expired ratification deadline to get it over the finish line. Lawmakers have tried to do so in the past, but those efforts have never made it out of committee.
In the coming days, Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) is planning to take another shot at it.
Cardin told The Hill on Friday that he will soon reintroduce a joint resolution to remove the deadline, and this time he has Republican support right out of the gate: Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) has signed on as a co-sponsor, giving the measure new momentum.
“We believe there is no limitation in the Constitution to ratify a constitutional amendment,” Cardin said, arguing that the deadline language was in a congressional preamble to the amendment, not the amendment itself.
Cardin predicted that the resolution, which would need a simple majority to pass if it reaches the Senate floor, will make it through Congress this time around given the number of female lawmakers and action on women’s issues across the country.
The 116th Congress includes a record number of female lawmakers, with 106 in the House and 25 in the Senate.
“This is not a radical idea,” Cardin said. “This is something most people think has already been done, and from the point of view of policy this is something that needs to be accomplished.”
Murkowski said the U.S. cannot and must not put a time limit on the fight for women’s equality.
"The bipartisan legislation I’m leading, alongside Senator Cardin, will resolve any ambiguity over whether states, like Virginia, can make the ERA effective by ratifying it this year,” she said in a statement Friday. “I was heartened to learn that the Virginia Senate moved to ratify."
Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) said she is planning to introduce the resolution in the House, where Democrats now have the majority.
“I’m confident that the support of our enthusiastic new membership will help create the momentum needed to finally get the ERA over the finish line this year,” she said in a statement to The Hill. “Thanks to the Me Too movement two states, Nevada and Illinois, ratified in the last two years. We’re just one state shy of our goal and Virginia and several other states are racing to become the third.”
Experts say Arizona, North Carolina and Georgia are seeing momentum toward ratification.
Virginia state Sen. Jennifer McClellan (D) told the Richmond Times-Dispatch it would be “poetic justice” if her state, which was home to the Confederate capital during the Civil War, became the crucial one to ratify the amendment.
“We should be the 38th state to ratify the ERA and finally bring truth to the promise that we are all created equal,” she said.
Jessica Neuwirth, founder and co-president of the ERA Coalition, said House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) has committed to holding a hearing and getting the resolution to the floor for a vote.
Nadler’s office did not respond to a request for comment.
Movement on the bill, Neuwirth said, is what’s been missing.
“Who’s going to vote against the ERA? Why would they? It’s a fundamental principle of equality,” she said.
Congress has extended the seven-year deadline for constitutional amendments once before. In 1978, lawmakers agreed to revise the March 22, 1979, deadline to June 30, 1982. But the ERA expired when it was three states short of ratification, according to the National Organization for Women (NOW).
There is some debate in the legal community about whether the deadline was ever valid in the first place. Many point to the 27th Amendment, which was not ratified by the states until 200 years after it passed in 1789. That amendment prevents lawmakers from raising their own salaries mid-term.
“This ratification suggests that amendments, such as the ERA, which do not contain a textual time limit, remain valid for state ratification indefinitely,” three graduates of the T.C. Williams School of Law in Richmond, Va., argued in a 1997 article published in the William & Mary Journal of Race, Gender, and Social Justice.
NOW’s president, Toni Van Pelt, said the ERA deadline was artificially set.
“Clearly, once it’s ratified it’s in the Constitution,” she said, adding that her organization won’t stop fighting for the ERA.
But it’s a battle that will have to be fought on Capitol Hill, not in the courts.
In a 1992 Fordham Law Review article, Richard Bernstein, an adjunct associate professor at New York Law School, said a 1939 Supreme Court case established the principle that issues having to do with the ratification of amendments are political questions best left to the determination of Congress.
Either way, Van Pelt said she is not deterred.
“We’re going to get women in the Constitution whether men like it or not,” she said.
Some view the ERA at this point as moot, given that women have gained many rights through Supreme Court cases and laws like the 2009 Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which makes discriminatory pay practices unlawful and gives women the right to seek a court ruling for back wages.
But women’s rights advocates say they still have to prove their cases in court.
“We have a little patchwork of laws that help some people in some circumstances, but more people fall through the cracks than get justice,” Neuwirth said.
As for the states that have withdrawn support for the ERA — Idaho, Kentucky, Nebraska, South Dakota and Tennessee — their actions may not matter.
The T.C. Williams Law School graduates noted that Ohio and New Jersey tried to pull back their consent for the 14th Amendment in 1868, but the U.S. secretary of State ignored the rescissions and declared the amendment ratified.
@hightor,
hightor wrote:Reporters filing an incorrect story doesn't amount to "fake news" of the sort that Facebook ran, which originated at the IRA in St. Petersburg and other troll farms. BuzzFeed has yet to retract the story and we don't know what part or parts of the story Mueller's office was referring to. Be patient, it will all come out eventually.
Leftist fake news is leftist fake news, period.
hightor wrote:No one "tried to destroy anyone's lives" nor did anyone "go after" some kids;
That is incorrect. Leftists have been savaging these kids and savaging their school.
We really need to set up reeducation camps here in America so we can start training leftists how to start acting like human beings.
hightor wrote:In retrospect it may not have even amounted to anything worth reporting — but, with multiple marches and protests occurring and stories spreading across social media it all got out of hand.
All got out of hand.... Nice way to play down leftists savaging innocent kids.
@revelette1,
What does that have to do with CBS News?
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:That's what the rightwing always does, complain of bias where there is none.
Leftist nutcases have tons of bias. All they ever do is spout fake news.
@oralloy,
The distinction between "fake news" and printing an incorrect account is worth maintaining. A flood of
disinformation spread over social media is much more insidious and ultimately more harmful than some over eager reporters filing a story which is subsequently disputed in full view of the public by an authoritative source connected with the case.
@hightor,
hightor wrote:The distinction between "fake news" and printing an incorrect account is worth maintaining.
There is no such distinction.
hightor wrote:A flood of disinformation spread over social media is much more insidious and ultimately more harmful than some over eager reporters filing a story which is subsequently disputed in full view of the public by an authoritative source connected with the case.
Perhaps, but that does not mean that leftist fake news should not also be denounced.
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
The distinction between "fake news" and printing an incorrect account is worth maintaining. A flood of disinformation spread over social media is much more insidious and ultimately more harmful than some over eager reporters filing a story which is subsequently disputed in full view of the public by an authoritative source connected with the case.
I think there was a good deal more than "incorrect" in most of the reporting. in which reporterss claimed to know the motive and intent for the very actions which they misreported. How did they know that? Merely a superficial look at the entire clip would have cleared it up