@gungasnake,
the people did not elect him in 2016. What makes you think it will be any different in 2020?
@gungasnake,
Besides. we'll take over the Senate as well as rhe House in 2020. If Trump should beat the first impeachment push, we'll just do it again with majorities in both houses, and then lock him up.
@glitterbag,
I've ceased to be remotely surprised by the stupidity of Trump supporters. They'll believe anything that confirms their prejudices no matter how bizarre or moronic it seems.
Quote:The withdrawal of US troops from Syria depends on certain conditions, US National Security Adviser John Bolton says, in a further indication that the process is being slowed down.
On a trip to Israel and Turkey, he said he would seek Turkish assurances that Kurds in northern Syria would be safe.
The US also wants to ensure that the remnants of the Islamic State (IS) group are defeated, he added.
President Donald Trump has faced strong criticism over the planned US pullout.
When he first announced the move in the middle of December, he said: "They're all coming back and they're coming back now."
US officials said American forces had been given 30 days to leave Syria.
Mr Trump also said at the time that IS had been "defeated".
The development shocked allies and US defence officials alike, with Defence Secretary Jim Mattis and senior aide Brett McGurk resigning soon after. On Saturday, Department of Defence chief of staff Kevin Sweeney became the third senior Pentagon official to announce his resignation since President Trump's announcement.
Meanwhile, America's Kurdish allies in north-east Syria were left feeling exposed as Turkey, which regards them as terrorists, appeared poised to move against them.
But Mr Trump seemed to row back last week when he said troops were being pulled out "slowly" and that they would be fighting remaining IS militants at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46775308
Sounds like the assurances Neville Chamberlain got about Czechoslovakia.
@roger,
roger wrote:Well, this used to be an interesting thread for monitoring Trump.
Really? I've always seen this as a general thread for talking about whatever. It is also a convenient place to engage camlock on 9/11 if I am in the mood (which I seldom am).
Why would anyone care much about politics these days? So long as Trump is in power our civil liberties are safe. The rest is just background noise.
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:Besides. we'll take over the Senate as well as rhe House in 2020. If Trump should beat the first impeachment push, we'll just do it again with majorities in both houses, and then lock him up.
At some point Trump is going to get sick of the left's witchhunting and start doing it back to them. You won't like that very much.
It is unlikely that Democrats will pick up seats in the same election cycle that Trump is reelected in. But even if they did, note that they will need 67 votes to remove him from office. There is no way that Democrats will ever hold 67 seats in the Senate.
Again, what are the dems gonna do when they impeach DT, the senate laughs at them, and then the people re-elect him in a landslide vote? Is there a way to look stupider than they're gonna look??
John Bolton contradicts Trump by saying Syria withdrawal depends on defeating Isis
President sparked controversy in December by declaring ‘we have defeated Isis in Syria’
Tom Barnes @thomas_barnes
01/06/19 4 hours ago
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Donald Trump’s national security adviser John Bolton has appeared to contradict the president by saying the planned withdrawal of US troops from Syria depends on defeating the final remnants of Isis.
Speaking during a visit to Israel to reassure the Washington ally over Mr Trump’s sudden decision to pull forces out of north-eastern Syria, Mr Bolton said there was no timetable for the exit.
“There are objectives that we want to accomplish that condition the withdrawal,” he told reporters in Jerusalem on Sunday, adding this included the defeat of Isis in Syria.
But Mr Bolton added that there was no unlimited commitment from the US on keeping troops in the region.
His comments appeared to be in contradiction to the president’s unambiguous declaration last month that the US “have defeated Isis in Syria”.
The remarks are the first public confirmation the withdrawal has been slowed, after Mr Trump faced widespread criticism over his sudden decision to pull 2,000 US service personnel from Syria.
His withdrawal plan drew the ire of many of the country’s close allies and led to the resignation of defence secretary Jim Mattis, who cited irreconcilable policy difference with the president.
Mr Trump’s move has raised fears over clearing the way for a Turkey assault on Kurdish fighters in Syria, who have fought alongside America troops against Isis forces.
Turkey considers the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units, or YPG, a terrorist group linked to an insurgency within its own borders.
Mr Bolton, who is due to meet with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan in the coming days, said any withdrawal would rest on assurances of the safety of Kurdish people in the region.
He stated Mr Trump would “not allow Turkey to kill the Kurds”, adding: “That’s what the president said, the ones that fought with us”.
Mr Bolton said the US has asked its Kurdish allies to “stand fast now” and refrain from seeking protection from Russia or Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government.
“I think they know who their friends are,” he said, speaking of the Kurds.
He said chairman of the joint chiefs of staff General Joseph Dunford would continue negotiations with his Turkish counterparts this week to seek protection for America’s Kurdish allies in Syria.
Mr Bolton announced US troops would remain at the critical area of al-Tanf, in southern Syria, to counter growing Iranian activity in the region.
He defended the legal basis for the deployment, saying it was justified by the president’s constitutional authority, adding: “I’m a strong believer in Article II.”
Mr Bolton is to have dinner with Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Sunday evening to discuss the pace of the US withdrawal, American troop levels in the region, and the US commitment to push back on Iranian regional expansionism.
He was expected to explain that some US troops based in Syria to fight Isis will shift to Iraq with the same mission and that the al-Tanf base would remain.
The US national security adviser toured the ancient tunnels beneath the Western Wall in Jerusalem‘s Old City on Sunday.
He watched a virtual reality tour of the historic site and dined there with his Israeli equivalent, as well as US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman and Israel‘s ambassador to the US, Ron Dermer.
Visiting American officials typically avoid holding official meetings in parts of east Jerusalem, which is contested between Israelis and Palestinians. Mr Trump himself, however, also toured the area in a previous visit.
@gungasnake,
He lost the vote in a virtual landslide in 2016. Only the anti-democratic electoral college railroaded him in. He'
is more unpopular now than he was then and he ain't winning any new friends. He's facing major investigations in a dozen areas with VERY strong cases against him, which are going to hamstring him for the next two years. Deservedly so. What makes you think he'll actually win for the FIRST time in 2020?
@oralloy,
He's tried that for the last two year, plus the campaign. It hasn't worked for him because he has no case, while there is a strong case, not in the least a witch hunt, gainst him. Face it, he's a crook.
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:He's tried that for the last two year, plus the campaign.
That is incorrect. He has yet to order the FBI and IRS to comb through the life of every major leftist in the US to see if there are any crimes that they can be prosecuted for.
MontereyJack wrote:while there is a strong case, not in the least a witch hunt, gainst him.
When leftists abuse the law to persecute people who disagree with them, that's a witch hunt even if they manage to find wrongdoing.
And so far no one has presented any evidence that Trump has committed any wrongdoing at all.
MontereyJack wrote:Face it, he's a crook.
You cannot back that assertion with any evidence.
And after Bill Clinton it wouldn't matter even if you could.
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:Only the anti-democratic electoral college railroaded him in.
This is silly. Why do leftists hate our Constitution so much?
MontereyJack wrote:He is more unpopular now than he was then and he ain't winning any new friends.
Last I heard (which admittedly has been awhile) his popularity among Republicans was second only to W's popularity after 9/11.
MontereyJack wrote:He's facing major investigations in a dozen areas with VERY strong cases against him,
If there was a very strong case against him, you could point out the evidence. You can't.
MontereyJack wrote:which are going to hamstring him for the next two years. Deservedly so.
Don't complain when the sole mission of the FBI and IRS becomes rooting through the lives of prominent leftists.
MontereyJack wrote:What makes you think he'll actually win for the FIRST time in 2020?
We're still at the beginning of 20 years of Republican control over the White House.
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
roger wrote:Well, this used to be an interesting thread for monitoring Trump.
Really? I've always seen this as a general thread for talking about whatever. It is also a convenient place to engage camlock on 9/11 if I am in the mood (which I seldom am).
Excellent job of making my point.
@MontereyJack,
Quote:People detest the president
According to Rasmussen's
daily report, he's on a par with Obama.