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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:36 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

Weakling Trump ... weak on ISIS!


Weak on everything.

Quote:
US President Donald Trump is backing down on his threat to shut down the government after Democrats refused to grant him the funding to build the wall he wants on the border with Mexico.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46609626
hightor
 
  3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:38 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
It has nothing to do with Trump.

Of course it has "something" to do with Trump. The president interceded with the FBI director to ask the agency to go easy on Flynn after he tried to make a secret deal with Russia, before he was even sworn in as National Security Advisor. If Trump told him to do this, gave him the okay, or even knew about it, it raises questions about the president which deserve investigation.
revelette1
 
  3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:38 am
@tsarstepan,
I hope that is sarcastic, pretty sure it is. At least that is one place we would be out of. I doubt we are doing much good there or any of the other such places. I wish more than Syria, we would completely withdrawal from Iraq and most of all Afghanistan. If there was a crises or some situation with an endgame in sight, I can see the need for our military to in such situations, but if fighting IS and terrorism which could conceivably go on forever, I really don't. It seems to me other military and intelligence methods would be more efficient in those cases. If is so simple for me to see, I don't understand why in the world we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq all these years later.


From the books I have read concerning Trump, he seems to have two sides to his conservatism and they clash from time to time. The Bannon white nationalist side where they think we should get out of all wars, and the Washington conservatism concerned with foreign policy and taxes and other conservative ideological issues.
hightor
 
  5  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:42 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
I guess you missed him groping little girls...

Get a grip. Only a pervert would interpret that clip as "groping".
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:43 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

I don't understand why in the world we are still in Afghanistan and Iraq all these years later.


Because there was no plan to begin with. It was a half arsed mission doomed to failure from the beginning.
revelette1
 
  2  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:46 am
@izzythepush,
Well, in Afghanistan it was supposed to be to fight the Taliban because they refused to hand over Bin Laden. (now I wonder why we ever thought they would or could)But they went off on a sideline to Iraq in the middle of it and conducted the whole operation (Afghanistan and Iraq) in an unlawful manner.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 10:52 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
in an unlawful manner.

Feel free to tell us what was unlawful.
izzythepush
 
  4  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 11:29 am
@revelette1,
Nothing substantial was done about hearts and minds. They had a brief window to let the people know things were getting better, but instead of investing in infrastructure and healthcare they decided to invade Iraq with no idea of what to do when they won.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 11:34 am
Quote:
US presidents tend to receive their fair share of honours, but Donald Trump may want to ignore his latest one.

A newly discovered amphibian that buries its head in the sand has been named after him, apparently in response to his comments about climate change.

The Dermophis donaldtrumpi, which was discovered in Panama, was named by the head of a company that had bid $25,000 (£19,800) at auction for the privilege.

The company said it wanted to raise awareness about climate change.

"[Dermophis donaldtrumpi] is particularly susceptible to the impacts of climate change and is therefore in danger of becoming extinct as a direct result of its namesake's climate policies," said EnviroBuild co-founder Aidan Bell in a statement.

The small, blind, creature is a type of caecilian that primarily lives underground, and Mr Bell drew an unflattering comparison between its behaviour and Mr Trump's.

"Burrowing [his] head underground helps Donald Trump when avoiding scientific consensus on anthropomorphic climate change," he wrote.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46614138
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 11:42 am
The elephant in the room. Ignoring this solves nothing.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 12:47 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Weak on everything.

Something you actually know something about.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 12:49 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Flynn after he tried to make a secret deal with Russia,

What secret? His calls were listened to.
Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 12:49 pm
@izzythepush,
Trump signed off on Moscow project during campaign: Giuliani
Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s lawyer on Wednesday said Trump had signed an October 2015 letter of intent to develop a real estate project in Russia during his presidential campaign, after earlier denying it in a weekend television interview.

Rudy Giuliani had told CNN on Sunday that “no one signed” the letter of intent to go forward with the Moscow project, although he acknowledged talks about the development had extended through November 2016 when Trump won the U.S. presidential election.

Giuliani reversed course in comments to Reuters on Wednesday, however, after CNN reported late on Tuesday that it had obtained a copy of the Oct. 28, 2015 letter signed by Trump, who had announced his White House bid in June that year.

“If I said it, I made a mistake,” Giuliani said of his previous denial about Trump having signed the letter. ...

The letter was also signed by Andrey Rozov, who owns Russia-based I.C. Expert Investment Co, CNN said. The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

The proposed project has become a focus in federal investigations into Russian interference in American politics and potential ties between Trump’s campaign and Moscow being conducted by the U.S. Special Counsel’s Office and Congress. ...




blatham
 
  5  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 01:57 pm
Ann Coulter has things to say:
Quote:
Warning of a “joke presidency” that “scammed the American people,” conservative radio host Ann Coulter unloaded on President Trump’s apparent softening on securing funding for his border wall, suggesting that Trump will have “no legacy whatsoever” if it doesn’t get built.


“They’re about to have a country where no Republican will ever be elected president again,” Coulter said during an interview with the Daily Caller Wednesday. “Trump will just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populists for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever.”

When asked whether she intends to vote for Trump in 2020 if significant moves aren’t made for wall funding, Coulter, who was a big Trump supporter in 2016, said “no.”

“Nor will, I think, most of his supporters. Why would you? To make sure, I don’t know, Ivanka and Jared can make money? That seems to be the main point of the presidency at this point,” she said.
(TPM)
Sturgis
 
  4  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 02:05 pm
@blatham,
Had a feeling Coulter would suffer a few burst blood vessels on the easing of Trump's pressure. A few minutes of Rush Limbaugh today, took it more on the Dems. He babbles about them (Dems) planning to send money to South America (I suppose he thinks it's just one giant nation down there). Says it's much more than the amount than the sacred wall would cost.

Since I had to shut him off (too much laughter at him isn't good for me), he may have taken Trump to task as well.
Sturgis
 
  4  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 02:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I sometimes wonder if Giuliani isn't actually losing his mind; but, rather he is plotting against Trump the number of times he's shifted the stories.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 02:16 pm
@Sturgis,
I haven't attended to Limbaugh for a long while. Thanks for the reminder. He's fare more disciplined in his propaganda techniques than Coulter but things are crashing down around him too so it will be interesting to watch him now. **** me the next two years is going to be ugly.
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blatham
 
  4  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 02:30 pm
@Sturgis,
I think Giuliani is simply following the lead of Trump (and surely following the instructions of Trump) of saying anything at all, regardless if he has said exactly the opposite on the day before. The rules seem to be:
1) say it loud
2) say it repeatedly
3) say it in as many high profile venues as possible
4) allow no negative claim or reporting to go without rebuttal (truth entirely irrelevant)
5) thus filling up the media space with a desired narrative designed to muddy national discourse and to keep the base fed with the diet they clearly crave.

To be more succinct, Rudy's job is not lawyering nearly so much as it is doing propaganda.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 03:20 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
When asked whether she intends to vote for Trump in 2020 if significant moves aren’t made for wall funding, Coulter, who was a big Trump supporter in 2016, said “no.”

Trump can accomplish that and will get her vote. Nice to see Spamomatic again. When does the Twitter barrage begin?
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Wed 19 Dec, 2018 03:32 pm
@blatham,
One of these days Coulter’s head will actually explode. Hopefully it will happen on the air.
 

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