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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Fri 16 Nov, 2018 03:23 pm
@hightor,
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Sovietism


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

But abhorrent religious practices are just that and not Islamist, Crusaderism, Inquistionism etc.

Given that every communist regime has pretty much followed the Soviet model, it's amusing that you seem to hold out hope for the golden one.
Blickers
 
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Fri 16 Nov, 2018 06:04 pm
@oralloy,
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This is the proper response to neonazi liberals. Their antisemitism is despicable.

Ummm, anti-semitic liberals you say? Ever hear of Charlottesville?


And Trump called the march full of good people.
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hightor
 
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Fri 16 Nov, 2018 10:03 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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But abhorrent religious practices are just that and not Islamist, Crusaderism, Inquistionism etc.

Actually in my parlance "Christianism" and "religionism" are also commonly used. I could have said "Soviet Communism" but I wanted to emphasize the "-ism" aspect — I do think that it was a particularly weird permutation of religious zeal and political ideology. As was Nazism.
Quote:
...it's amusing that you seem to hold out hope for the golden one.

I really don't. But I think that varieties of Marxism are part of our cultural baggage and will probably continue to usefully describe aspects of politics, economics, and culture for some time to come.
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InfraBlue
 
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Fri 16 Nov, 2018 11:56 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Ever hear of Charlottesville?

That is all we have heard but it has nothing to do with the anti-semetic Democrats. Those groups in your video are tiny in number and everyone should know that. A whole political party is far more dangerous. And supporting Sarsour and the Woman's March. She has said Jews should not be humanized.

According to Arutz Sheva what Sarsour actually said was, "If you’re on the side of the oppressor, or you’re defending the oppressor, or you’re actually trying to humanize the oppressor, then that’s a problem sisters and brothers, and we got to be able to say: that is not the position of the Muslim American community."
coldjoint
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 12:43 am
@InfraBlue,
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and we got to be able to say: that is not the position of the Muslim American community."

We are still able to say anything. What book do Muslims learn Islam from? They hate Jews, the rest is lip service accepted by willfully ignorant progressives, Democrats, and other anti-Semites.
MontereyJack
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 02:12 am
@oralloy,
Quote:

Blickers wrote:
Ever hear of Charlottesville?
Oralloy:Yes. That was where a bunch of violent liberals attacked peaceful protesters.


Right. He peacefully drove his car into a group of protestors who were violently standing and sitting there and peacefully murdered one.
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Real Music
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 02:34 am
The secret of why Trump won't release his taxes | With Chris Cillizza

President Trump has constructed a narrative in which he clawed his way to the top by sheer will.
The New York Times released a story that calls that narrative into question.
Were Trump’s financial successes heavily funded by his father Fred?
(Spoiler alert: Yes.)

Published on Oct 4, 2018
Olivier5
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 03:04 am
@oralloy,
Your antisemitism is repugnant alright. It killed actual people at the Tree of Life synagogue.
Builder
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 03:16 am
@Real Music,
Quote:
(Spoiler alert: Yes.)


The spoiler alert was the CNN in red on the screen.


They're much like Fox, in that they don't legally deal in news; it's called infotainment.

Much more flexible in scope.
Setanta
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 04:27 am
Another tory operative heard from.
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hightor
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 04:31 am
@Builder,
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They're much like Fox, in that they don't legally deal in news; it's called infotainment.

Except that the story is based on a well-researched piece from the N.Y. Times, the facts of which are not in dispute. Even Trump accepted the truth of the report; he only objected to the "time value of money" calculations.
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Setanta
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 04:55 am
@hightor,
In fact, according to Wikipedia, citing "Findlaw-dot-com," the term poloitically correct was first used in a 1793 Supreme Court ruling:

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Associate Justice James Wilson, of the U.S. Supreme Court comments: "The states, rather than the People, for whose sakes the States exist, are frequently the objects which attract and arrest our principal attention... Sentiments and expressions of this inaccurate kind prevail in our common, even in our convivial, language. Is a toast asked? 'The United States', instead of the 'People of the United States', is the toast given. This is not politically correct." Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. (2 Dall.) 419 (1793)


In fact, the Wikipedia article goes on to cite published uses of the term in the 1980s and -90s. That is misleading. The term was in common use from the late 1960s onward among members of the left. The idea then was to unite the disparate factions of the left, and to avoid criticisms which would hamper that effort. Therefore, it was not politically correct to call the Black Panthers misogynist; it was not politically correct to criticize feminists for misandry; it was not politically correct to describe the American Indian Movement as violent. (The same applied to the Weathermen originally, but after the bombing of a building at the University of Wisconsin in 1970, which killed one researcher and injured three others, even the most radical members of the left distanced themselves from the Weather Underground.) The term was in common use in the so-called counter culture as early as 1968, and its use grew from 1970 onward. It just took a decade or so for other people, especially those wishing to sell newspapers or books, to notice.
hightor
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 05:40 am
@Setanta,
Interesting — 1793!

The early usage by the left is rather specific and seems only marginally related to the "PC" which became prevalent in the '80s. I think it was picked up by T-groups and the encounter movement and made its way into sensitivity training where it became associated with eliminating offensive language and avoiding social embarrassment.
InfraBlue
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 05:51 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
and we got to be able to say: that is not the position of the Muslim American community."

We are still able to say anything. What book do Muslims learn Islam from? They hate Jews, the rest is lip service accepted by willfully ignorant progressives, Democrats, and other anti-Semites.

Sauser didn't say "Jews should not be humanized," your red herring notwithstanding.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 08:08 am
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The CIA believes that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to US media reports.

Sources close to the agency said it had assessed the evidence in detail.

It is understood there is no "smoking gun" but US officials think such an operation would need the prince's approval.

Saudi Arabia has called the claim false and insisted that the crown prince knew nothing about plans for the killing.

It says Khashoggi was killed as a result of a "rogue operation".

Meanwhile, US Vice-President Mike Pence vowed on Saturday to hold Khashoggi's killers to account.

Speaking on the sidelines of a summit in Papua New Guinea, he said the US was "determined to hold all of those accountable who are responsible for that murder".

The journalist was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October. His body has not been found.

Turkey insists the order to kill him came from the highest levels.

The Washington Post, which Khashoggi worked for, says the CIA assessment was based partly on a phone call made by the crown prince's brother, Prince Khalid bin Salman, the Saudi ambassador to the US.

Prince Khalid allegedly called Khashoggi at the direction of his brother and gave him assurances that he would be safe to go to the consulate.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46245167<br />
lmur
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 09:41 am
@izzythepush,
It broadly relates to Trump(ing) and is a contemporary event so... https://www.bbc.com/sport/darts/46245993
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 09:45 am
@InfraBlue,
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Sauser didn't say "Jews should not be humanized," your red herring notwithstanding.

Quote:
Linda Sarsour: Muslims Mustn’t Make the Mistake of ‘Humanizing’ Jews

Is that close enough? The point is she hates Jews and her religion backs her up. Apologize all you wish it changes nothing especially the truth about her and Islam.
https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2018/09/09/linda-sarsour-humanize-jews/
InfraBlue
 
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Sat 17 Nov, 2018 09:56 am
@coldjoint,
She didn't say that either, and your specious assertions are a red herring.
 

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