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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:16 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
unlimited sources of money

Very true. The MSM and huge globalist cooperation's have extremely deep pockets, but some people can not be bought, that includes ordinary American voters.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:19 am
@coldjoint,
If the Dems take the house, spitting on the sidewalk will be an impeachable offense.
revelette1
 
  4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:20 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I bet you can't name the clues which told you Obama thought dossier was fake the ways he was going to use the "insurance policy" and the means he did it if he did. We know McCain gave dossier to the FBI/Comey. So how was Obama going to use the dossier if McCain gave it to Comey, the cat is already out of the bag. Unless you think McCain and Obama, who did not like each very much, was in cohoots together?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/313716-mccain-gave-dossier-containing-sensitive-information-to-fbi
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:21 am
@revelette1,
Of course, they do.

Now who doesn't have a clue?
revelette1
 
  3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:23 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Who does (what?)?
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:29 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
If the Dems take the house, spitting on the sidewalk will be an impeachable offense.

They would be wasting their time and America's time without the Senate in Democratic hands and that is not going to happen this go around.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:30 am
@revelette1,
And I bet you don't believe that the Saudi Crown Prince was aware of the plan to torture and kill the WaPo Saudi Columnist, but you do, apparently, believe that Obama knew nothing of the efforts of his approved, if not handpicked, agents in the DOJ and FBI to undermine the Trump campaign and presidency.

McCain and Obama, probably, were unaligned allies. I don't believe they directly conspired.

McCain despised Trump and as all good Dems said when he ran for POTUS, he was savage when angered.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:31 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
Soros and Democrats must have unlimited sources of money and very capable organizers to be able pull of this huge migration (crises) which is going on at the border between Mexico and Guatemala.


Memory problems?
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:44 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
The dossier was confirmed by US intell agencies to be good, solid intell work. Sorry, I know it's hard to swallow but your president is a Russian tool to undermine your democracy.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:54 am
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The occult turned partisan on Saturday as a coven of New York witches placed a hex on US Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Dozens attended the event at Brooklyn's Catland Books, which was also streamed online.

Organisers said the event was "an act of resistance and resilience".

A Catholic priest and exorcist in California, Father Gary Thomas, planned to counter the spell by saying prayers for the justice at Mass.

"This is a conjuring of evil - not about free speech," Father Thomas told the National Catholic Register.

Dakota Bracciale, co-owner of Catland Books and one of the organisers of the event, said they would not share details or specifics of "the spells", but told the BBC the hex was "aimed at exposing Brett Kavanaugh for what he truly is, to cause him harm and see him undone".

Mr Kavanaugh's appointment to America's top court was confirmed despite him facing sexual assault allegations, something he denies.

Asked when the spells were expected to take effect or when they anticipated seeing the results, the organisers said "as soon as possible", adding: "There's not a firm timeline on these things."

They went on to say that part of its purpose was to provide "camaraderie, fellowship and support during tumultuous times".

Half of the proceeds are to be donated to charities, including the women's health group Planned Parenthood, the organisers' event page says.

Last year, Catland hosted "three consecutive rituals to hex Trump", with tickets to each of the events selling out, the owners said.

They added that press coverage of the rituals sparked a backlash, but that it was "nothing" compared with the scale of abuse following the announcement of their latest event focusing on Mr Kavanaugh.

"We have experienced a pretty severe amount of backlash in the form of hate mail and death threats," Dakota said.

However the previous rituals aimed at Mr Trump, they say, have proved successful.

"We feel the rituals were a success as they sought to expose Trump for what he is, and that has happened on many levels; from the Russia probe to the exposé on his finances to Stormy Daniels [the porn actress who says she had a sexual affair with Mr Trump in 2006]."

"Witchcraft is a practice, not a religion," Ms Bracciale explained. "It's what one does, not what one believes."

She said that followers of witchcraft see motivation in its history: "It has always been practiced by the most downtrodden, disenfranchised and oppressed peoples who have used it as a tool for survival... to be the arbiter of their own justice since it would be denied by the powers that be.

"[We see] the witch as a political figure who threatens and works to take down the patriarchy. This has been seen throughout history, but more recently in American society.

"We uphold this legacy which merges art, political theatre, religious iconology and socio-political resistance."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45928212
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neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:00 am
Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

By Erica L. Green, Katie Benner and Robert Pear Oct. 21, 2018

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

“Sex means a person’s status as male or female based on immutable biological traits identifiable by or before birth,” the department proposed in the memo, which was drafted and has been circulating since last spring. “The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence.”

The new definition would essentially eradicate federal recognition of the estimated 1.4 million Americans who have opted to recognize themselves — surgically or otherwise — as a gender other than the one they were born into.

“This takes a position that what the medical community understands about their patients — what people understand about themselves — is irrelevant because the government disagrees,” said Catherine E. Lhamon, who led the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights in the Obama administration and helped write transgender guidance that is being undone.

The move would be the most significant of a series of maneuvers, large and small, to exclude the population from civil rights protections and roll back the Obama administration’s more fluid recognition of gender identity. The Trump administration has sought to bar transgender people from serving in the military and has legally challenged civil rights protections for the group embedded in the nation’s health care law.

Several agencies have withdrawn Obama-era policies that recognized gender identity in schools, prisons and homeless shelters. The administration even tried to remove questions about gender identity from a 2020 census survey and a national survey of elderly citizens.

For the last year, health and human services has privately argued that the term “sex” was never meant to include gender identity or even homosexuality, and that the lack of clarity allowed the Obama administration to wrongfully extend civil rights protections to people who should not have them.

Roger Severino, the director of the Office for Civil Rights at the Department of Health and Human Services, declined to answer detailed questions about the memo or his role in interagency discussions about how to revise the definition of sex under Title IX.

But officials at the Department of Health and Human Services confirmed that their push to limit the definition of sex for the purpose of federal civil rights laws resulted from their own reading of the laws and from a court decision.

Mr. Severino, while serving as the head of the DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at the Heritage Foundation, was among the conservatives who blanched at the Obama administration’s expansion of sex to include gender identity, which he called “radical gender ideology.”

In one commentary piece, he called the policies a “culmination of a series of unilateral, and frequently lawless, administration attempts to impose a new definition of what it means to be a man or a woman on the entire nation.”

“Transgender people are frightened,” said Sarah Warbelow, the legal director of the Human Rights Campaign, which presses for the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. “At every step where the administration has had the choice, they’ve opted to turn their back on transgender people.”

The Department of Health and Human Services has called on the “Big Four” agencies that enforce some part of Title IX — the Departments of Education, Justice, Health and Human Services, and Labor — to adopt its definition in regulations that will establish uniformity in the government and increase the likelihood that courts will accept it.

The definition is integral to two proposed rules currently under review at the White House: One from the Education Department deals with complaints of sex discrimination at schools and colleges receiving federal financial assistance; the other, from health and human services, deals with health programs and activities that receive federal funds or subsidies. Both regulations are expected to be released this fall, and would then be open for public comment, typically for 60 days. The agencies would consider the comments before issuing final rules with the force of law — both of which could include the new gender definition.

Civil rights groups have been meeting with federal officials in recent weeks to argue against the proposed definition, which has divided career and political appointees across the administration. Some officials hope that health and human services will at least rein in the most extreme parts, such as the call for genetic testing to determine sex.

After more than a year of discussions, health and human services is preparing to formally present the new definition to the Justice Department before the end of the year, Trump administration officials say. If the Justice Department decides that the change is legal, the new definition can be approved and enforced in Title IX statutes, and across government agencies.

The Justice Department declined to comment on the draft health and human services proposal. The Justice Department has not yet been asked to render a formal legal opinion, according to an official there who was not authorized to speak about the process.

But Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s previous decisions on transgender protections have given civil rights advocates little hope that the department will prevent the new definition from being enforced. The proposal appears consistent with the position he took in an October 2017 memo sent to agencies clarifying that the civil rights law that prohibits job discrimination does not cover “gender identity, per se.”

Harper Jean Tobin, the policy director of the National Center for Transgender Equality, an advocacy group, called the maneuvering “an extremely aggressive legal position that is inconsistent with dozens of federal court decisions.”

Health and human services officials said they were only abiding by court orders, referring to the rulings of Judge Reed O’Connor of the Federal District Court in Fort Worth, Tex., a George W. Bush appointee who has held that “Congress did not understand ‘sex’ to include ‘gender identity.’”

A 2016 ruling by Judge O’Connor concerned a rule that was adopted to carry out a civil rights statute embedded in the Affordable Care Act. The provision prohibits discrimination based on race, color, national origin, sex, age or disability in “any health program or activity” that receives federal financial assistance.

But in recent discussions with the administration, civil rights groups, including Lambda Legal, have pointed to other court cases. In a legal memo presented to the administration, a coalition of civil rights groups wrote, “The overwhelming majority of courts to address the question since the most relevant Supreme Court precedent in 1998 have held that antitransgender bias constitutes sex discrimination under federal laws like Title IX.”

Indeed, the health and human services proposal was prompted, in part, by pro-transgender court decisions in the last year that upheld the Obama administration’s position.

In their memo, health and human services officials wrote that “courts and plaintiffs are racing to get decisions” ahead of any rule-making, because of the lack of a stand-alone definition.

“Courts and the previous administration took advantage of this circumstance to include gender identity and sexual orientation in a multitude of agencies, and under a multitude of laws,” the memo states. Doing so “led to confusion and negative policy consequences in health care, education and other federal contexts.”

The narrower definition would be acutely felt in schools and their most visible battlegrounds: locker rooms and bathrooms.

One of the Trump administration’s first decisive policy acts was the rescission by the Education and Justice Departments of Obama-era guidelines that protected transgender students who wanted to use bathrooms that correspond to their gender identity.

Since the guidance was rescinded, the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights has halted and dismissed discrimination cases filed by transgender students over access to school facilities. A restrictive governmentwide definition would cement the Education Department’s current approach.

But it would also raise new questions.

The department would have to decide what documentation schools would be required to collect to determine or codify gender. Title IX applies to a number of educational experiences, such as sports and single-sex classes or programs where gender identity has come into play. The department has said it will continue to open cases where transgender students face discrimination, bullying and harassment, and investigate gender-based harassment as “unwelcome conduct based on a student’s sex” or “harassing conduct based on a student’s failure to conform to sex stereotypes.”

The Education Department did not respond to an inquiry about the health and human services proposal.

Ms. Lhamon of the Obama Education Department said the proposed definition “quite simply negates the humanity of people.”
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revelette1
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:33 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
No I don't believe Obama had anything to do with any efforts to undermine the Trump presidency, nor do I think there was such an effort. All you have is half baked conjectures.

As for the Prince and the Saudi Prince, I am content to wait for Turkey and/or our congress or our intelligence to report their findings.


If I wanted to follow your example I would say, "you know Trump has a vendetta out for the Press and for Washington Post in particular. You know Trump has close ties to the Saudi Kingdom and the Kingdom would not have done such a thing if without checking to see if the US/Trump would turn on them."

However, I don't believe Trump had anything to do with the killing. He is just not going to do too much in return if he can get away with it.
hightor
 
  5  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 11:47 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Obama sat on the dossier because he knew it was fake, and he believed Clinton would win.

How would Obama know the dossier was "fake"? There's a difference between a report which is "fake" and one which is uncorroborated. Are you claiming that Steele made up the whole thing and Obama knew it? I think it's more likely that Steele transcribed the information that his sources provided accurately. The credibility of his sources is a different matter. Steele was right including the information — even if he had doubts — because his sources might reveal details in the dossier to irresponsible or hostile agents and it would be useful for our intelligence services to know what's out there, where it comes from, and who's saying it.
jcboy
 
  4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 12:06 pm
No sympathy here. He blantantly and brazenly cheated and lied his way through life and this is the result. He is a crook. He did the crime. He is doing the time. Sometimes Justice does work the way it should. Next, tRump should be LOCKED UP and justice will work as it should in HIS case. Razz

Paul Manafort shows up to court in a wheelchair, learns sentencing date

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Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was rolled into a Virginia federal court Friday in a wheelchair, wearing a green prison uniform instead of his signature tailored suit.

The judge scheduled Manafort to be sentenced Feb. 8 for eight counts of tax evasion and bank fraud and dismissed the remaining charges against him.

Manafort, appearing visibly grayer, was pushed into court in a wheelchair, missing his right shoe.

"There are significant issues with Mr. Manafort’s health concerning confinement," his lawyer, Kevin Downing, told the judge.

Downing requested that the court expedite Manafort’s sentencing so he could be moved to a facility better equipped to deal with his health issues.

A jury in Alexandria convicted Manafort on eight counts of tax evasion and bank fraud counts in August, but were unable to reach a verdict on 10 additional counts, leaving Mueller's prosecutors to decide whether to retry him. The new ruling no longer gives them that option.
maporsche
 
  4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 01:45 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

The dossier was confirmed by US intell agencies to be good, solid intell work. Sorry, I know it's hard to swallow but your president is a Russian tool to undermine your democracy.


Also important to note that it is RAW intel. Not finalized or investigated/confirmed.
Olivier5
 
  3  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 01:55 pm
@maporsche,
Still, I believe the American people had the right to know what was in the dossier prior to the election, not after.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 04:07 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
had the right to know what was in the dossier prior to the election, not after.

So accusations would equal a guilty plea? That sounds familiar.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 04:10 pm
@jcboy,
Quote:
tRump should be LOCKED UP and justice will work as it should in HIS case. Razz

The party you represent has no idea what justice is. They have proven it, and just recently.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 04:14 pm
@maporsche,
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Not finalized or investigated/confirmed.

And used to get a warrant, don't forget that. Do you think that un-investigated accusations should be used to do that? You just admitted that is what "they" did.
ehBeth
 
  1  
Sun 21 Oct, 2018 04:16 pm
@Olivier5,
Only if it is no longer of use.
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