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coldjoint
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 07:23 pm
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Another Sign The Mueller Probe Is Ending With A THUD

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The Mueller team had delayed the sentencing phase of this in the hopes that they would be able to leverage Flynn to give more information if they found anything in the investigation they were charged with doing. The Flynn legal team has asked the judge numerous times for the sentencing to be handed down so their client could get on with his life.

Now that will finally happen.

This is one more clue that this investigation is just about over and I would suspect that if they had anything pointing to the President, that something would have gotten out. As tight-lipped as this investigation has been there had been numerous times where just a lil info leaked out to get the press buzzing about how Trump would be resigning within days.

Quite a bit different way than most here see it. I wonder how much evidence Mueller destroyed, I hope not enough.
https://www.redstate.com/tladuke/2018/10/20/another-sign-mueller-probe-ending-thud/
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RABEL222
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 07:39 pm
Bump
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 11:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
He probably thinks Ataturk is the Turkish equivalent of atta' boy.
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hightor
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 03:52 am
@coldjoint,
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If there was something it would be out...

As has been explained to you many times previously, don't expect the investigators to leak their findings, the results will appear in the final report.
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...the midterms makes it obvious Mueller has **** and will soon be shoved in it.

The panel will especially seek to avoid the release of any information which might sound the least bit incriminating before the midterms, to avoid any charges of attempting to sway an election.
hightor
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 07:10 am
Donald Trump’s Perverse Advantage
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Elizabeth Warren screwed up. That’s clear. Her big confirmation of Native American blood offended some Native Americans, did nothing to muffle or muzzle Donald Trump and left many journalists — me included — questioning her tactical smarts.

But the media focus on her misjudgment, her character and whether she had the right stuff for the White House underscores the absurdity of our current politics, in terms of the advantage it confers on the president. We expect much of anyone stepping forward to challenge him. We expect absolutely nothing of him.

Consider his role and behavior in the Warren saga. Her ancestry test followed his incessant mocking of her as “Pocahontas,” a schoolyard gibe from a puerile mind.

She was specifically provoked by his recent statement that if he ever debated her, he’d insist that she submit to such an analysis and, if it showed any Native American blood, he’d donate $1 million to the charity of her choice. But when she presented such evidence last week, he immediately backpedaled, suggesting that he’d pledged nothing of the kind.

Was there much attention to that? Nah. It was expected, familiar, another artless evasion atop an ever-growing Matterhorn of lies. Political observers wondered more about how her bungle squared with her presidential ambitions than about how his bogusness squared with the presidency itself. They fretted over her flaws because they — and more crucially, many American voters — long ago resigned themselves to his. Hers are quantifiable, definable. His have no bounds.

That’s Trump’s edge over everybody. That’s his gift. He can do no wrong because he’s all wrong. He never really shocks because he’s a perpetual shock.

When someone frolics at the nadir for as long as he has, there’s nowhere to go but sideways.

He reminds me of a long-held fantasy of mine: that someday, to head the media off at the pass, a candidate would begin his or her campaign by holding a news conference and telling reporters: “Let me save you a lot of time and me a lot of grief. I hereby introduce all the skeletons in my closet: this drug, that dalliance, some naked greed here, several suspicious tax maneuvers there and, oh, I once adopted a dog from the pound and returned it the next day. Decide if I’m disqualified. Then we can move on to a conversation about how to slow the warming of the globe.”

Except for the global-warming part, Trump essentially did that — not when he glided down that escalator in Trump Tower but by living the life that he had lived, under the glare that he had invited, until then. He hadn’t concealed his sexual infidelity; he’d crowed about it. He couldn’t pantomime Puritanism; he’d emblazoned his name on casinos and the Miss Universe pageant.

It was clear that he had amassed his fortune through convenient bankruptcies, unsavory alliances and stiffed creditors.

His racial demagogy had been well established in his insistence that Barack Obama was an illegitimate president born outside the United States.

And his misogyny? Megyn Kelly was able to ask that famous question at the first 2016 Republican primary debate — the one with a litany of his gross physical put-downs of women — because they had all been chronicled, recorded, transcribed. There was no running from his boorishness. Boorishness was his brand.

So when alienated, cynical and rebellious voters chose Trump as the loudest expression of their grievances, they knew exactly what they were getting. When evangelicals joined them, they understood what kind of church they were in. And when Republican holdouts submitted, they didn’t convince themselves that they had judged him too harshly on testimony too scant. They just decided that a pardon was in their self-interests, and they bit their tongues until they lost the ability to speak.

The “Access Hollywood” tape didn’t ruin Trump because it didn’t reveal anything about him that wasn’t suspected or assumed. The exposure of his fraudulent philanthropy? Ditto. His rampant tax evasion? Scales fell from exactly nobody’s eyes.

Trump enjoys a kind and degree of immunity that few if any politicians in my lifetime have been given. His own exhaustively established indecency inoculates him. As a result, all manner of ugliness slips by — unnoticed, barely noticed or noticed and accepted as Trump being Trump.

His interview last week with The Associated Press was a doozy that didn’t get its due. His bragging was off the charts: He said that no president had ever exerted the kind of positive effect on his party’s midterm prospects that he was exerting. He called the current economy the best in the country’s entire history.

And we once got worked up about Al Gore’s exaggerations?

In that A.P. interview, Trump also cast himself as an expert on climate change by noting that an uncle of his was an M.I.T. professor. So, he explained, “I have a natural instinct for science.”

And we’re worried about Warren’s ancestral assertions?

Part of what protects Trump is a dynamic that I and many other writers have described before. The sheer volume of his offenses, not to mention the velocity with which one follows another, renders each of them less potent, not more. From bone spurs to bone saws, it’s one numbing blur.

But there’s more to it than that. There’s the realization — and too often the acceptance — that he’ll never do much better and can’t get any worse. He’s already made light of John McCain’s torture by the North Vietnamese, defended the neo-Nazis who marched in Charlottesville, Va., and chosen air kisses from Vladimir Putin over hard truths from American intelligence officials. There’s simply no encore to that.

We in the media certainly note all the new stuff: the “horseface” slur; the “rogue killers” escape hatch for Saudi butchers; the ill-timed, repugnant congratulations to a Montana lawmaker for body-slamming a journalist. But we’ve served this stew so many times before that a big audience beyond the die-hards has lost its appetite. We need to document all or most of the tweets and bleats — he’s the president of the most powerful nation on earth, after all — but there’s so much that we invariably come across as obsessed. Trump puts us in a trap.

The way out isn’t clear, but a few necessary adjustments are. We in the media should do less “horseface” and more ballooning deficits, dysfunctional federal agencies, disgraceful cabinet members and reckless judicial appointments. Too often the substantial sinks beneath the saucier stuff, yet another factor that favors the president and lets him off the hook.

We should also re-examine how we discuss whether Warren or some other challenger has the particular chops to handle Trump’s falsehoods and slurs. It’s as if we accept his strategy as legitimate, even ingenious, and locate weakness and fault in the person who can’t counter it.

He’s the sad, bad actor. We can’t let his relentless spectacle obscure that.

Frank Bruni NYT
jcboy
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 07:27 am
I couldn’t have framed the election better than McConnell did this week. He says if GOP wins they will:
a. try again to repeal ACA and replace it w nothing
b. cut Social Security and Medicare to pay for their corporate tax cut
c. provide no check on tRump

Supporters aren't being told these things. And if supporters were told these things, unfortunately they would still support. Blind devotion is dangerous, and dumb sheep will follow.

Got it, America?
Olivier5
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 08:56 am
@hightor,
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The panel will especially seek to avoid the release of any information which might sound the least bit incriminating before the midterms, to avoid any charges of attempting to sway an election.

You're probably right, but IMO that's anti-democratic. The truth needs be told to the electorate before an election, not after.

The same fear of influencing an election led the Obama administration to sit on the Russian dossier instead of informing the voters about it.
coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:15 am
@jcboy,
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Blind devotion is dangerous, and dumb sheep will follow.

Obama proved that. Trump is not Obama, he actually loves this country and ALL its people, Obama did, and does, not.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:21 am
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After Being Vandalized, Store Selling All Things Trump Even More Successful

Does everything Trump haters do backfire? It sure seems that way.
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The business took off even more after their store was vandalized last year. “After that it just exploded,” MacKean said. “The entire weekend we were packed with people, and from then on we knew we had something that people wanted.”

http://tammybruce.com/2018/10/after-being-vandalized-store-selling-all-things-trump-even-more-successful.html
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:26 am
@hightor,
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As has been explained to you many times previously, don't expect the investigators to leak their findings, the results will appear in the final report.

Explaining excuses does not change the fact they are excuses. Mueller has nothing unless he decides to go after Clinton and Obama, then he has more than enough for a conviction, or convictions.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:27 am
@Olivier5,
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The truth needs be told to the electorate before an election, not after.

If that happens the Democrats will not get any votes.
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:31 am
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If there was something it would be out, the midterms makes it obvious Mueller has **** and will soon be shoved in it.[


Time to vote this down under the viewer threshold again? Why are people so scared of words? Maybe it is truth they are afraid of.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:44 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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or perhaps not disclosed

If there was something it would be out, the midterms makes it obvious Mueller has **** and will soon be shoved in it.

Got a contact buzz yet?



Oh, he'll have something. It won't have to do with election collusion with Russia, but it will be something.
revelette1
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:51 am
@hightor,
I agree with everything except Elizabeth Warren. People and the media have been reading the report wrong.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/just-about-everything-youve-read-so-far-about-the-warren-dna-test-is-wrong/

However, I see a lose/lose issue and should be dropped. It is such a shame because I really like Warren and think she will make a great President if she should run. But that false narrative is going to stick to her like glue.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 09:53 am
@Olivier5,
Obama sat on the dossier because he knew it was fake, and he believed Clinton would win. It was kept as an insurance policy just in case she didn't.

It's an interesting issue though. Trump is not running for office, and it would truly strain credulity to say that the investigation was completed precisely at the time of the elections. It would have to be a 100% certain blockbuster in order to justify release now.

revelette1
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Everybody thought Clinton would win. The rest you have no clue about unless you have some kind of inside knowledge the rest of us do not have.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:05 am
@revelette1,
I have no specific knowledge, but I have plenty of clues.
revelette1
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:11 am
Soros and Democrats must have unlimited sources of money and very capable organizers to be able pull of this huge migration (crises) which is going on at the border between Mexico and Guatemala.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/20/americas/caravan-mexico-border/index.html
coldjoint
 
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Sun 21 Oct, 2018 10:13 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Oh, he'll have something. It won't have to do with election collusion with Russia, but it will be something.

It will not be an impeachable offense so the investigation was all a CYA operation.
 

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