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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:23 pm
@revelette1,
Heads will roll anyway.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:24 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
anonymous op-ed

That says it all. If it is that bad why doesn't this person identify him or herself and become an American hero? This could be the next president, right? Shocked

Hey maybe this guy knows if there was Russian collusion, no one else has found any, maybe the NYT will ask him/her.
coluber2001
 
  2  
Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:32 pm
@ehBeth,
Foghorn Leghorn, stereotypical blowhard sounded a lot like Fritz Hollings, a former, likable moderate Democratic senator from South Carolina.

Major Hoople, another blowhard.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7084/1919/1600/49l8126-av2.jpg
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coluber2001
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:33 pm
Following the events of the Trump presidency is like watching a head-on collision between two long freight trains in extreme slow motion.
camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:35 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
If it is that bad why doesn't this person identify him or herself and become an American hero?


Honest people don't become American heroes; liars, war criminals, terrorists, war criminal snipers, baby killers, rapists, ... become American heroes.

Think about it, they gave the medal of "freedom" to Albright after she helped plan the genocide that saw half a million Iraqi children murdered. Then she bragged about it.
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camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:41 pm
@coldjoint,
Always violence from America and Americans. It is bred into the top war mongering nation of all time.

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coldjoint
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:43 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
Honest people don't become American heroes; liars, war criminals, terrorists, war criminal snipers, baby killers, rapists, ... become American heroes.

Think about it, they gave the medal of "freedom" to Albright after she helped plan the genocide that saw half a million Iraqi children murdered. Then she bragged about it.

That post would look very nice right here.https://able2know.org/topic/475392-1#post-6707387
camlok
 
  1  
Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Honest people don't try to avoid unpleasant realities. But then you aren't honest, cj. Honest people don't support serial, pants on fire liars or even liars of the clinton variety, which ain't even close to trump.

I gave you a thumbs up because the people who down vote are really as bad a liar as trump is.
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gungasnake
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 03:57 pm
@coldjoint,
That is precisely why the demopoops are so hell-bent on importing vast numbers of Third Worlders and registering them to vote illegally. The absolute lock which they have had on black voters has been decisively broken
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camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 04:13 pm
@coldjoint,
The world's top war criminal/terrorist nation always whines about their own poor little selves.
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camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 05:03 pm
Trump, signaling either the size of his brain or his little guy.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/03/denialism-what-drives-people-to-reject-the-truth#img-3
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blatham
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 07:34 pm
I just got home and learned now of the NYT op ed on Trump. Having read it, my opinion is that it's loaded with misdirection and bullshit. And quite a few of us predicted something like this would happen. Here are some key passages:
Quote:
We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

Quote:
Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people.

Quote:
President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Quote:
There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style

Everything here follows a pattern of ideology or perhaps propaganda which has marked the conservative movement consistently. Here it is:
Conservatism cannot fail (because it is built on irrefutable and eternal truths), it can only be failed.

I said earlier that a lot of us predicted that something like this was likely to come about if GOP electoral hopes were threatened. That party is the main vehicle used by powerful interest groups to advance their goals. Those voices are evident in the op ed in it's celebration of tax and deregulation issues.

And Trump himself has been a vehicle for these interest groups in advancing their ideology and goals. It was evident long before Trump took office that he was the sort of person this op ed now describes. But what the heck, maybe we can get a whole lot of the policies and personnel we want in place if Trump or someone like him is in the oval office. We can fill key administration posts with our people
- Tom Price
-Scott Pruitt
-Ryan Zinke
-Steve Mnuchin
-Betsy deVos
-Wilbur Ross
-Rick Perry
-the CEO of Exxon for **** sake
-etc

But now that GOP electoral prospects are in dire jeopardy and now that "conservatism" as a brand is covered with ****, that is the critical state of affairs. Now, they want Trump gone. He's no longer useful and has become a very serious liability.

The cover story here is this one:
Quote:
It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

Trump didn't stop Garland from assuming a seat in the SC. Trump didn't choose Kavanaugh or any of the other right wing ideologues being placed in courts across the US (Trump knows **** all about any of these issues or these people). Trump didn't devise the tax and deregulation strategies (and GOP president would have done the same (as Bush Jr did). Etc.

You may find this overly cynical but as I said, something quite like this was predicted by myself and others.

I'm going to add another comment in a bit.


neptuneblue
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 07:42 pm
@blatham,
One Word Has People Convinced Mike Pence Wrote Anonymous New York Times Op-Ed

The unidentified member of the in-house “resistance” uses “lodestar,” an unusual word the vice president likes to say.
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By David Moye

The New York Times’ scathing anti-Donald Trump op-ed, which the paper attributed to “a senior official in the Trump administration,” has inspired a parlor game among people trying to figure out the author’s name.

Some online commentators are leaning toward Vice President Mike Pence based on just one word in the piece.

The unidentified author singles out the late Arizona Sen. John McCain as “a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue.”

The word ― which Merriam-Webster defines as either “a star that leads or guides” or a person who “serves as an inspiration, model, or guide” ― isn’t that commonly used. But Pence apparently says it a lot, according to this mash-up posted on Twitter:



David Mack

@davidmackau
"lodestar" (h/t @danbl00m)
5:50 PM - Sep 5, 2018

The “lodestar” hashtag is already trending on Twitter. While it might sound like a conspiracy theory, audio producer Dan Bloom explained in an interesting Twitter thread why he thinks the use of “lodestar” in the op-ed makes Pence a key suspect.

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
The word is "LODESTAR." Note that it comes in the same paragraph praising John McCain. That would rule out flame-throwers like Stephen Miller and Dan Scavino and suggest someone with Senate ties. This reveal is not going to take long.
3:55 PM - Sep 5, 2018


Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
"Lodestar" just seems like an unusual word to use in general, not to mention in an op-ed that's going to be widely read. It has this whiff of sanctimony. So I search for John Kelly and James Mattis ever having used the word "lodestar." Nothing. But then...
3:57 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
...an example pops up of Vice President Mike Pence using the word "lodestar" in a speech at the UN in September 2017.
4:03 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
Two months later, Vice President Mike Pence speaks at the Jack Kemp Leadership Award Dinner. He drops "lodestar" again.https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-vice-president-mike-pence-kemp-leadership-award-dinner/ …
4:05 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
Two more months later (like clockwork,) February 2018. Vice President Mike Pence speaking in Tokyo, alongside Japanese PM Shinzo Abe. Place your bets... another "lodestar."
4:13 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
Lest you believe Pence's "lodestar" proclivities began with his Vice Presidency, enjoy this little ditty from 2011.
4:16 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Dan downLODESTAR Bloom
@danbl00m
Replying to @danbl00m
And lo, as I have shown in my previous tweets, peaches and nectarines are absolutely delicious, and Vice President Mike Pence really likes using the word "lodestar" in his writing. In fact, one might call it his...
4:21 PM - Sep 5, 2018

Bloom wrote that from what he can tell, Pence has been using “lodestar” since at least 2001.

He also acknowledged that the Times described the author as “a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure.” Although Pence is probably the only White House official who can’t be fired, Bloom suggested, probably correctly, that being identified as the author of the op-ed could hurt any presidential aspirations Pence has.

There are some possible holes in the theory.

Business Insider notes that previous stories about White House leakers have said that staffers who supply anonymous quotes to the press have been known to use words or phrases employed by other members of the Trump administration to keep the president guessing.

“To cover my tracks, I usually pay attention to other staffers’ idioms and use that in my background quotes. That throws the scent off me,” one White House official told Axios earlier this year.

Of course, the key piece of evidence suggesting that Pence is not the author may be his own fawning, obsequious praise of Trump.

However, it should also be noted that Scott Roos, a former college classmate of Pence’s, said the future vice president once said that “God told him he would be president,” according to CNN.

Theoretically, he could have written the op-ed to jump-start the dream.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the “lodestar” theory.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 07:55 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
And quite a few of us predicted something like this would happen.

Nothing is happening. Trump is still president. Do you really want un-elected officials running the government by interfering in a presidents decisions in this way.

It is more Deep State dramatics. You are having a wet dream over nothing. Also this is just one more example of who knows who dumbass brainwashed bureaucrat(s) telling voters they are taking away what you voted for. That is not how it works. This is called sedition.
camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 08:04 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Do you really want un-elected officials running the government by interfering in a presidents decisions in this way.


Here is yet another delusional body who thinks that it's "government BY the people".

A cruel joke that such gullible people deserve.
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camlok
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 08:08 pm
@coldjoint,


Let me point out to you, cj, that your signature line describes the Trump administration perfectly.

Perhaps the most insidious threat facing Western democracies has been the progressive decline of elite accountability and responsibility.

The prez is supposed to be the elite, the top dog in the US government, the person idiots swoon over like he's a king.

That certainly has been the case for Trump and his band of criminals administration - a progressive decline of Trump's accountability and responsibility.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 5 Sep, 2018 08:18 pm
@camlok,

https://able2know.org/topic/475392-1#post-6707387
blatham
 
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Wed 5 Sep, 2018 08:19 pm
@neptuneblue,
I have no way of making a good guess on this individual (but we know he/she claims a group of them so perhaps the author's name isn't terribly important). I'd just add that it would be pretty damned stupid, if you are trying to remain hidden, to use an unusual term you've used many times previously. Actually, it would be pretty damned stupid to write the text oneself. Much smarter to have someone else (with a lower profile) to write it. Also, if Pence does wish to become President (or even if he wishes to continue as a GOP politico) any such hopes would be dead, absolutely dead, if it was revealed he was the author.
 

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