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layman
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:06 pm
@blatham,
I am reminded of Ambrose Bierce's definition of an abstainer:

Quote:
“ABSTAINER, n. A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. A total abstainer is one who abstains from everything but abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of others.”
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blatham
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:06 pm
@Lola,
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Sorry Bernie, I didn't notice that this was your thread.

Hell, that's no kind of problem. Anyone can chip in on a thread I originate. Where I find value, I'll respond. But I don't have any special sense of ownership of the real estate.
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Lola
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
you know what I am c.i., don't pretend
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:38 pm
@Lola,
http://nypost.com/2015/04/23/majority-of-voters-think-hillary-is-untrustworthy-poll/

A majority of US voters — 54 percent — say Hillary Clinton is not honest or trustworthy according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.
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McGentrix
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:54 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

You said it better than I did: You nailed it.


Yep.
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layman
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 08:59 pm
The video demonstrates some real differences between blacks and white liberals. Seems to be a lot of baseless stereotyping, eh?

What's up with that, ya figure?


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tony5732
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 09:20 pm
@Lola,
Hillary was a crap candidate that should have been in jail. If anyone but Hillary was against trump, I have a feel as if they would have won.

Hillary, with all her years of experience, lost the Electoral College game to a political pre-schooler.

Hillary laughed at dead soldiers.

Hillary lied about e-mails.

Hillary couldn't understand that can meant confidential on emails, while acting as Secretary of state.

Hillary can't stand on her own two feet.

Hillary has a bobblehead.

Hillary voted to build a wall between US and Mexico. No, not Trump, I really did mean Hillary. Hillary did that, before trump was involved in politics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezaw-g6TIQI






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glitterbag
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 11:50 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Lola wrote:

Y'all please. Your comments are so primitive and punitive and punishment lowers self esteem and low self esteem is the cause of depression and aggression. Stop chasing your tails.


I live to chase tail!


Oh sweety, you must be so disappointed. But don't get frustrated, There are so many insecure girls who are actually grateful to meet someone like you. And there is nothing wrong in your circles to be a bottom feeder. Happy hunting, Abner
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 12:05 am
@glitterbag,
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Oh sweety, you must be so disappointed. But don't get frustrated, There are so many insecure girls who are actually grateful to meet someone like you.


I have to be honest and say that if Glitter bag was not able to understand my naïve mind
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blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 06:18 am
Winner of today's "Great idea, guys!" category award
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Extremists Turn to a Leader to Protect Western Values: Vladimir Putin
Putin On The Ritz
blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 06:25 am
Swamp-draining notes from all over
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Just two weeks ago, President-elect Donald Trump appeared poised to assemble a Cabinet as unconventional as he is, drawing heavily from a band of quirky loyalists that included several from the fringes of the Republican Party.

But as he moves rapidly toward assembling his roster of top advisers, Trump instead is pulling together a more orthodox GOP team than many expected, including a defense secretary nominee, retired Marine Gen. James Mattis, who has received solid marks from the party establishment ahead of his formal unveiling Monday.

The emerging Cabinet has gone a long way toward mollifying some of Trump’s Republican critics, and several of the picks — including the wife of the Senate majority leader as transportation secretary — are tailor-made to encourage cooperation between the administration and GOP leaders on Capitol Hill. The incoming team is preparing not only to implement longtime Republican goals — such as repealing the Affordable Care Act and cutting taxes — but also to push for Trump’s iconoclastic and controversial campaign promises on issues such as a border wall and trade...
white spats and lots of dollars
blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 06:49 am
As surprises go, this doesn't fall in the YUGE! range

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Paul Ryan isn’t ruling out Medicare privatization, and it isn’t just Democrats who are wary

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan made clear Thursday that he is willing to pursue a major overhaul of Medicare, including changes that could eventually put private companies in charge of the health care for tens of millions of American seniors. But talk of wholesale changes to the popular federal programs has key GOP lawmakers nervous about overshooting their electoral mandate.

“Save Medicare for another day,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. “We want to begin immediately to repeal Obamacare. . . . Trying to deal with the solvency issues with Medicare at the same time falls into the category of biting off more than you can chew. It’s an important issue, it’s one I’m ready to address, but a little humility here would be in order. We can’t do everything at once, and we shouldn’t try.”
I won't touch Medicare. Believe me.
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layman
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 06:55 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

"The incoming team is preparing not only to implement longtime Republican goals — such as repealing the Affordable Care Act and cutting taxes — but also to push for Trump’s iconoclastic and controversial campaign promises on issues such as a border wall and trade..."

Swamp-draining notes from all over


Exactly.
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layman
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:14 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Winner of today's "Great idea, guys!" category award
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Extremists Turn to a Leader to Protect Western Values: Vladimir Putin


I take it you approve of such passages from this article as the following, eh?

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Mr. Putin has never personally promoted white supremacist ideas, and has repeatedly insisted that Russia, while predominantly white and Christian, is a vast territory of diverse religions and ethnic groups stretching from the Baltic Sea to the Pacific Ocean. Nor has he displayed any sign of hostility toward Jews, a fact that has infuriated some of Russia’s more extremist nationalist groups....

Mr. Spencer acknowledged that Mr. Putin did not share his ideology, but played that down, saying, “We can look to Putin as someone we can admire and understand...

Not all of the alt-right has fully embraced the Russian leader. Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s new chief strategist, who until he entered the White House ran Breitbart News, which he has called a platform for the alt-right, has a complicated view of Mr. Putin. In a speech in 2014, he said that Mr. Putin ran a “kleptocracy,” but also that “we, the Judeo-Christian West, really have to look at what he’s talking about as far as traditionalism goes.”
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blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:21 am
At an Ohio rally yesterday, Pence said that the ACA would be replaced with "American solutions". Ain't that a curious bit of phrasing. The ACA was, of course, modeled on Mitt Romney's program when he was governor. It's not as if Mitt smuggled in his program from a Soviet 5 Year Plan or from those useful idiots up in Canada.

So what are the messaging boys and girls doing with this talking point phrasing (which I'm guessing we'll see and hear a lot going forward)?

Obviously there's the suggestion that the ACA was, in some way, non-American. That's not in any sense true unless one takes as axiomatic that any such large government program violates some "rule" or "tradition". Or that any such program must be inspired by destructive foreign ideas.

If that's the message being forwarded (and I think that's exactly the message being forwarded) then it will hold true that the origins or provenance of any such program is and will always be irrelevant. And it would hold true that the popular will is also irrelevant.
Frugal1
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:25 am
The ACA was anything but affordable, it needs to be ripped out by it's roots & killed with fire.
layman
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:30 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

At an Ohio rally yesterday, Pence said that the ACA would be replaced with "American solutions".
If that's the message being forwarded (and I think that's exactly the message being forwarded) then it will hold true that the origins or provenance of any such program is and will always be irrelevant. And it would hold true that the popular will is also irrelevant.


The sky is falling I tellzya!

Pence will establish a NAZI regime and slaughter millions!
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blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:37 am
Steve Benen on the "there are no real discernible facts" thing.

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One of the more common sentiments in the wake of this year’s presidential election has been calls for “blue” America to spend more time listening to Trump voters, respecting their perspective, and understanding their motivations. At face value, it’s hardly an outrageous suggestion – I don’t recall anyone urging “red” America to spend more time listening to Obama voters in 2008, but there’s usually no harm in treating people with dignity and learning more about their perspective, especially if you hope to try to win them over to your side of the political divide in future elections.

But what’s to be gained from more conversations with people who believe demonstrable nonsense and those who believe “there’s no such thing” as facts?
If people believe Mike Huckabee can cure their diabetes with biblical passage, then he's not lying
The bolded bit is just for perspective. But the greater point here is the very real danger to civil society when any and all discrimination regarding truth and facts is cancelled out. Any claim can then be legitimized. Jews are running the world into the ground. The negro race is inferior. A husband cannot be guilty of the rape of his wife.
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giujohn
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:46 am
@glitterbag,
Now why would I get frustrated and be disappointed when you're telling me there's plenty of tail out there. Frankly, when you're chasing tail you're not too concerned about whether or not they're insecure. After all tail is tail.

And I get the distinct impression that you probably let yourself be caught a few times to feed the bottom, heh?
blatham
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2016 07:49 am
This. Try to get your head around this bit of logic.
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Asked by Mr. Tapper whether Mr. Trump’s recent posting of misinformation on Twitter about millions of undocumented immigrants voting was presidential, Ms. Conway defended the message.

“He’s the president-elect, so that’s presidential behavior,” she said.
She's a regular Bertrand Russel, this lady

How nuts is that? Trump or some other president-elect gets drunk and punches a foreign diplomat in the face then grabs some woman by the pussy, all in front of numerous cameras, then insists he didn't do any of it. That's presidential.

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