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layman
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:17 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Self-loathing white people are some of the most disturbing people to have ever drawn breath. Drama queens might be the best way to describe them, for they obsess endlessly about things they haven’t done, they elevate petty problems to the world stage and bury major ones behind a veneer of political correctness. Sanctimony is their religion, Social Justice their crusade, and endless self-hatred their spiritual diet.


True dat, and these cheese-eaters don't even know it, eh? A quote from one of them, from your article:

Quote:
The culture of white people is the culture of death. It is a culture of endless war, desensitization to human suffering, and the upholding of a brutal individualism fueled by greed. It is a deep, dark hole of grief and of loss. We don’t even know what we lost. We don’t know our ancestors. We don’t have stories of creation and hope and family; only stories of destruction and genocide. Our coming of age ceremony is a school shooting. Our song is a ballad about rockets and explosions. Our elders die alone surrounded by their stories of family members who no longer visit them. Our cities were built by the blood of slaves, on top of the graves of native people.


Man, ya talk about sorry, eh?
hightor
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:21 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
You continue to lie when everyone knows you're lyiing.

Your continuing attempts to give the appearance of truth to outright falsehood...

Pretentious latin won't save you from your own B.S.

Neither I nor the news media was "lying". Nor are Latin terms "pretentious" . You claimed that the reports were examples of "fake news". I supplied video evidence that Nunberg did indeed say what he was reported to have said. Neither I nor the media reports claimed that Nunberg "heard Trump say anything" or even that Nunberg's statement was true. Having worked in the Trump campaign, his remarks are simply newsworthy; that's why they were noticed in the first place. There's a difference between quoting other people and actually endorsing the content of their statements. I'd have thought you'd have known that.

As the president said, "When facts become opinions, the collective policymaking process of democracy breaks down. Gone is the common denominator — knowledge — that can bring opposing sides together."
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:25 pm
@layman,
Quote:
We don’t have stories of creation and hope and family; only stories of destruction and genocide.

I thought Christianity at least covered the creation. If I remember right it talks about hope and family.
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layman
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:30 pm
@hightor,
hahahahaha. You're still trying to defend this bogus crap!?

It's an easy trick.

1. Take a sentence, totally out of context from one place
2. Take a word or two from another.
3. Repeat until you have created the false appearance you are trying to convey as truth.

Using this technique, with some access to written statements, I can "quote" any person in the world as "saying" any damn thing I want, such as:

hightor wrote:
I am a homosexual pedophile who has a special affinity for chubby little boys under the age of three.


And, by God, I can show that you said every word.

Nice try, sophist.

How about the outright lie that Trump never gave the speech he mentioned, eh? Hmmmm. Even THAT was taken out of context. When he mentioned the speech, he also summarized some of the intended content, all of which was included when he made the promised speech soon thereafter, but all of which was conveniently omitted when the fake news quoted his initial reference to the intended speech (which they claimed he NEVER made).

You're stickin by that ****, too, aincha?
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:46 pm
@ehBeth,
thanks for that Glover vid. The guy's a genius.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 02:48 pm
@hightor,
The Last Leg did a piece on flat earthers who are currently on the rise. You can't argue with them, they have an answer for everything, the only 'evidence' they believe is that which reinforces their own prejudices and assumptions. It's the same with the trumpeteers, they're not bothered with witness reports, official stats, photographs or any real evidence, just what der trumpster tells them to believe.

coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 03:05 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
they're not bothered with witness reports, official stats, photographs or any real evidence

Sounds like the UK police and press. Canada not lagging to far behind.
Quote:
Blogger Convicted of Defaming an Islamist Although What He Said Is True

Quote:
CANADA JUST OBLITERATED CITIZEN JOURNALISTS

The decision in what was once a free country guaranteeing free speech is far-reaching and eminently dangerous. It implies citizens may not report the news without being sued and convicted of a civil crime or worse.

We need to keep an eye on these idiots.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/blogger-convicted-of-defaming-an-islamist-although-what-he-said-is-true/
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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 04:25 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Having worked in the Trump campaign, his remarks are simply newsworthy; that's why they were noticed in the first place.

How stupid do you think people are? Or, how stupid are you? This is just another blatant lie by omission.

What the fake news knows well, but fails to disclose, is that Nunberg was fired from the Trump campaign for making racist statements a YEAR before any of this happened. They (and you) just say he was "a former campaign aide" in order to entice the false inference that he was in a position to know what Trump said at the time in question. It's pure deliberately misleading horseshit, intended to deceive.

They say Nunberg TOLD Tapper that Trump knew. Nunberg never told Tapper that. He merely gave his personal opinion (which is no better than anyone's else's, former campaign aide or not) of what he believed. This is not "newsworthy." But they present it as though Nunberg was making a statement of known (to him) fact. This too is a deliberate distorted misrepresentation of the facts, aka "fake news."

Furthermore, just 2 or 3 days before this fake news story was printed, Nunberg gave another interview to Tapper where he made it quite clear that he knew nothing about what Trump said from any personal knowledge. He then said that his best guess was that Trump didn't learn of the russian meeting until AFTER it occurred. The fake news story does NOT disclose this known fact about what Nunberg said to Tapper, either, needless to say.

Give it up.
layman
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 05:05 pm
@layman,
This kinda **** happens every day with the fake news. They take something Trump did say, and then re-word it, interpret it, and/or speculate about what they think he might possibly have meant, or what his true motives were, and then present their concoction as something he actually said, or intended, when he didn't.

Then they all repeat the misrepresentation, and forever after treat their fabrication as known fact. Just a few such lies:

1. Trump said all Mexicans are thieves and rapists.
2. Trump mocked the handicap of a disabled reporter.
3. Trump claimed he sexually assaulted women
4. Trump insulted gold star parents.
5. Trump said all immigrants are animals.

All false. As I said, it's done daily and no one even bothers to keep track of all the fake news lies after a while. But they all become part of the lore of "known facts" about Trump when the fake news is endlessly repeated, even years later, thereafter.

They do the same with anyone associated with Trump too, of course. Like the CNN bitch who said Sarah Huckabee had threatened her with physical violence when Sanders merely noted, after the bitch had tried to put words in her mouth, that "you don't know me."
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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 05:29 pm
@ehBeth,
That NYBR piece is very well laid out and informative. Thanks Beth.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 06:19 pm
It is cllear d c gaxette knows even less about genetics than you do
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 06:31 pm
Did you actually read the rest of the post? Communists and conservatives are veey similar in that they both are so wrapped up in their dogma they try to force the world into it and the world just will not fit.
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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:05 pm
@layman,
Sk why did obama save the capitalist systen which GOPonomics nearly desstroyed? Some right wingers screws are loose.
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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:06 pm
Watch the cheese-eaters, who bitch 24/7 about the Koch brothers, bash Trump for this, eh?

Quote:
Trump tweet: Koch brothers are “globalist” and “overrated”

President Trump has aimed his ire on Twitter at the Koch brothers, two of the conservative world’s biggest and best-known donors and fundraisers, calling them “globalist” and saying that “their network is highly overrated."

'The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas. They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more. I made.....

....them richer. Their network is highly overrated, I have beaten them at every turn. They want to protect their companies outside the U.S. from being taxed, I’m for America First & the American Worker - a puppet for no one. Two nice guys with bad ideas. Make America Great Again!"


https://www.vox.com/2018/7/31/17634070/trump-koch-tweet
MontereyJack
 
  6  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:12 pm
@layman,
the kochs and trump trying to cut each other off at the knees. Whats not to love about that? May they all succeed
layman
 
  -3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:21 pm
@MontereyJack,
Trump doesn't need to sell his ass to the Koch brothers. They've done been outbid. He has the wealth of the entire russian nation on tap, ya know?
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hightor
 
  6  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:26 pm
@layman,
Quote:
How stupid do you think people are?

Well, Trump got elected, right?
Quote:
This is just another blatant lie by omission.

No, there was no "omission".
Quote:
...who was fired in the summer of 2015 after spending just six weeks with the Trump campaign

Most people would interpret that as meaning he's no longer directly involved with the Trump team. And if anyone cares to look deeper, more info is only a click or two away.
Quote:
But they present it as though Nunberg was making a statement of known (to him) fact.

No, that's your interpretation. How were they "supposed" to present his statement? How can you tell the difference between the media simply presenting a story, "Here's what this guy says", and the media presenting the same story as if we are expected to believe the story is factual, "Here's what this guy says and you should believe it"?
Quote:
He merely gave his personal opinion (which is no better than anyone's else's, former campaign aide or not) of what he believed.

As was reported in the press. He said Trump knew. End of story.
Quote:
Furthermore, just 2 or 3 days before this fake news story was printed, Nunberg gave another interview to Tapper where he made it quite clear that he knew nothing about what Trump said from any personal knowledge.

So now the guy is believable? After he told this blatant lie in March:
Nunberg wrote:
He talked about it a week before. And I don't know why he did this. All he had to say was: 'Yeah, we met with the Russians. The Russians offered us something, and we thought they had something, and that was it.' I don't know why he went around trying to hide it.

Why does Trump surround himself with these types of sleazebags? How difficult is it to tell the truth about something like this?
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:34 pm
Quote:
Why does Trump surround himself with these types of sleazebags?

Why does Killary? Wienstein, Epstein, Anthony Weiner, the Obamas.
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ehBeth
 
  3  
Tue 31 Jul, 2018 07:36 pm
@layman,
So happy to see this!

it goes nicely with recent fusses

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/29662-koch-prepared-to-back-democrats-who-share-his-goals

https://immigrationreform.com/2018/07/24/soros-doppelgangers-the-koch-brothers/

it's been going on for a while

we talked about this back in 2015/2016

https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/politics/2016-election-koch-brothers-donor-retreat/index.html

https://theintercept.com/2015/08/27/koch-operatives-trump/
 

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