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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 02:53 pm
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Christians living in muslim countries.

Christians are the most persecuted minority in the world largely because of Islam. The deaths are facts people ignore because Islam intimidates them.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 03:05 pm
Quote:
SHOCK VIDEO: Violent Mob Viciously Attacks 'Suspected Right-Winger' At Oakland Protest

Is that all it takes to be attacked? The Left resorts to violence and loves mobs. That is what they call "democracy" More people want to beat the Hell out of someone than not.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=58760
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 03:37 pm
izzythepush
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 03:48 pm
Quote:
President Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, has decided to close down her fashion brand.

The move comes over a year after she split from the company to enter the White House as a senior adviser.

Ms Trump launched the brand in 2014, but after her father's election was faced with boycotts from shoppers.

Ms Trump had reportedly become frustrated by the difficulties posed by avoiding possible conflicts of interest while serving in the White House.

A spokesperson for the company said the decision "has nothing to do with the performance of the brand and is based solely on Ivanka's decision to remain in Washington indefinitely."

After 17 months in her White House role Ms Trump said she did not know "when or if I will ever return to the business".

The brand had already been dropped by several retailers such as the Nordstrom chain and - just last week - Canada's largest department store chain Hudson's Bay.

Both companies blamed poor sales for their decision.

Ms Trump's company is private and does not release sales figures.

But according to the Wall Street Journal, which cited research from Rakuten Intelligence, online sales at Amazon, Macy's and Bloomingdales fell almost 45% in the year to June.

An investigation by the Washington Post last year found that virtually all of Ms Trump's clothing was manufactured in developing countries such as Bangladesh, Indonesia and China.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44944124
layman
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:02 pm
@coldjoint,



Trump, he ROCKS, eh!?
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:10 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
An investigation by the Washington Post last year found that virtually all of Ms Trump's clothing was manufactured in developing countries such as Bangladesh, Indonesia and China.

People live on what they make from those jobs. Where is your compassion? How will the world survive with such cold blooded people, and Islam?
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:10 pm

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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:20 pm

Quote:
'We Won't Take Even One Muslim Illegal Migrant'
Polish lawmaker infuriates Cathy Newman with his thought crimes.

The EU is not to happy with Poland.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270814/we-wont-take-even-one-muslim-illegal-migrant-frontpagemagcom#.W1eQfvxtYg4.twitter
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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:40 pm
@nimh,
Quote:
For example, "ridiculing US democracy" -- whether in consultation with foreign enemies or not -- should be firmly part of free speech, shouldn't it?

Per the US Constitution, Article III, section 3
Quote:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfor...

Criticizing or ridiculing one's government would obviously be protected speech. Conspiring with or acting at the instructions of a foreign government which is attempting to bring down or weaken one's government is clearly different and, per the article above, seems undeniably cause for a charge of treason. Beyond that, it certainly makes sense for a government/justice system to respond differently to a covert enemy agent heading up the Ohio Corn Huskers Union, Local 23 and another such agent up high in Intelligence or the Senate or, as in our case (possibly) the President.

"Act of war" is defined in various ways but I don't believe any of the definitions I read would have been formulated recently enough to take our new cyber world into account. It seems obvious that if a foreign government or non-state entity hacked into the systems controlling, say, a dam above a heavily populated area and set off a water release, that would be as much an act of war as dropping bombs on that same location. However, working to manipulate an election doesn't seem to me to reach the same level (and certainly wouldn't justify a military response).

So, I think talk of "acts of war" are silly at this point. Talk of "treason", on the other hand, is not out of line because it is quite possibly what is going on.
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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:48 pm
Obviously, no cheese-eater will ever look at this thorough level-headed analysis, but others may be interested.

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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 04:53 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Democrats Are Moving Left. Don’t Panic.
I'll say. We want the party moving left if merely to recover all the ground we've lost over the last five decades.

But we will be seeing lots of that leftism=failure formulation from those who believe it (ie Bloomberg) but more so from those who wish to frighten citizens so they'll vote R, and/or to make likely D voters and independents feel disaffected with the D party.
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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 05:03 pm
Quote:
PUBLIC SUPPORT SOARS FOR ROE V. WADE: A new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll finds that 71 percent of American voters support the Supreme Court decision upholding a woman’s right to an abortion, vs. only 23 percent who oppose it:
WP
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 06:57 pm
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/24/trump-farmers-bailout-reaction-republicans-congress-737517

Quote:
'Like a Soviet-type economy': GOP free traders unload on Trump
The president's $12 billion farm bailout gets an ugly reception among many Republicans in Congress.


yup yup

they all must be rino's
oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:02 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
What's not acceptable is the hacking of political parties central computers. The Russians keep crossing the line, and there's no indication they'll do otherwise, not with their pet poodle in the Whitehouse.
The primary reason why there are no real efforts to protect our elections from unacceptable interference, is because the Democrats have hijacked all of these efforts and transformed them into attempts to harm the President.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:05 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
That's an excellent synthesis. Indeed there's nothing to be panicking about; the Democratic party is just veering left somewhat, that's all. It's just course correction from the naive and rather ineffective bipartisan tropism of Obama towards a more combative and assertive position.
The Democrats are going to be spending the next 18 years out of power. It is normal for the out-of-power party to descend into extremist nuttery.

The voters will not allow the Democrats to return to power until they become moderates again.

Olivier5 wrote:
Bipartisan approaches would require an honest Republican party to work with, and there's very little honesty in today's GOP;
That is incorrect. Republicans are good people who are doing what they feel is right, just like Democrats.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:07 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
I also think any collusion that may or may not have happened is crossing the line.
Can you cite any law against it?

It's not too important, since there is no reason to think that collusion even happened.

But for something to be illegal, it has to be illegal.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:08 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
For now the message isn't as important as just simply stopping Trump getting crazy right wing justices in the supreme court.
If Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed, the Constitution is going to change so fast your head will spin
That article is talking of gun rights, what about voting rights which is even more important?
What is wrong with having our courts actually enforce the Constitution?

revelette1 wrote:
It is vital to keep any more of Trump's picks from being confirmed.
Keep in mind that Republicans retaliate when Democrats block their nominees without justification. Remember Merrick Garland?
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layman
 
  -1  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:22 pm
There will soon be 7 staunch conservative Justices on the Supreme Court, a condition that will last for decades.

Good luck, cheese-eaters. Now you will actually have to rely on voter approval, not activist judges who make up laws as they go, to get your desired policies enforced, eh?
glitterbag
 
  2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:26 pm
Merrick Garland was suggested by Orrin Hatch as a person who would be acceptable to the Republicans, but when Obama nominated him, McConnell refused to allow Garland to even visit with members and stalled to deny him consideration. So, yeah, I remember how the republicans stiffed a republican.......did you think the democrats denied Garland?
layman
 
  -1  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 07:27 pm
@layman,
In fact, the new court will strike down every cheese-eating "law" that comes their way, even if it was approved by the voters' representatives. Not because they don't like it, but because, 9 times out of 10, that **** is unconstitutional.

There's still time to head to Canada, know what I'm sayin?
 

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