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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 07:12 pm
@oralloy,
Bond denied!? Now I figure the damn judge deserves to be capped. That's, like, false imprisonment, eh?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 07:21 pm
@layman,
That was early in the case. He's been under house arrest with an ankle bracelet for some time now.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 07:24 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
That is utter bullshit.
No. As usual, everything that I say is completely true.

Setanta wrote:
You're just making sh*t up as you go along again.
I never do that. I always refer to established historical fact. That's why no one can point out anything that I'm wrong about.

Setanta wrote:
The government of Iran was lead by the Prime Minister, Mohammad Mosaddegh, who had been democratically elected, as was his majority in the parliament, in 1951. He had announced his intention to nationalize the oil fields, so MI6 went crying to Central Intelligence, and the CIA organized a coup which put the Shah back in the saddle in 1953.
The UK had a legitimate grievance. Iran was stealing their oil. Their participation in the coup was entirely understandable.

However, that is not the reason why the US became involved. The American response to the Iranian clerics rebelling against Iran's democracy was to try to mediate between the two sides.

Only when it became clear that the Iranian clerics' coup against their democracy was going to happen with or without us did we begin to participate in it.

Setanta wrote:
This is another case of you offering your uninformed opinion, and claiming it is fact.
There has never been a case of that happening. This is another case of me pointing out facts and reality that other people don't want to hear about.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 07:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Lassie the Dog could run against him and win

The dog would beat Killary too.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 07:54 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
No normal mind would consider it as zero.

I think you dreamers would say "normal" is a relative thing. The Electoral College decides elections, so it means nothing to quite normal people.

And Killary won't even live to 2020. Her heath is terrible. At least she will go pickled, it will save on en-bombing fluid.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 09:52 pm
Quote:
None Dare Call it Terrorism; All Dare Call for Gun Control

Oh Canada. The problem is Islam, not guns.
http://victorygirlsblog.com/none-dare-call-it-terrorism-all-dare-call-for-gun-control-video/
gungasnake
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:10 pm
@coldjoint,
We need two walls.....
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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:07 pm
@izzythepush,
I gotta admit--that's pretty damn hilarious.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:07 pm
@oralloy,
Utter nonsense--I see you have no source for your silly claims.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:14 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
I see you have no source for your silly claims.

Why don't you pick a claim and have source it?
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:36 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Utter nonsense--I see you have no source for your silly claims.
I have a source, and I've provided it to you before:
http://able2know.org/topic/182527-17#post-4914843

The New Republic, December 2009:
http://www.tnr.com/article/world/the-great-satan-myth

"It was the clerical establishment’s animosity towards Mossadegh that laid the groundwork for his ouster. A broad swath of clerics--Islamists like Ayatollah Abolgasem Kashani, a mentor of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini--had initially supported Mossadegh. But, by late 1952, the clerics turned against him after he bucked their demands. The Ayatollah Kashani unsuccessfully pressed Mossadegh for the right to appoint key ministers. Another top cleric called on the prime minister to purge the civil service of Baha'is--a bane of Shia clergy. The clergy's allegiance to Mossadegh weakened further as he allowed the communist Tudeh Party to gain ever more power, despite his own personal abhorrence of communism. Once Mossadegh squandered the allegiance of the clergy, the inevitability of his fate became increasingly clear. (He had also alienated the middle class, increasingly weary of ideological warfare; and the army had pleaded for his ouster.)"


National Public Radio interview with the author about his article:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121954311

"Whatever role, whatever evil role the United States played, it played it on the side of the clergy. The clergy in Iran departed from supporting Mosaddeq, became his foes and made him vulnerable to the eventual coup that overthrew him."


I guess though that I was misremembering our mediation. Our mediation attempts were not between Mossadegh and the clerics. We were trying to mediate between Mossadegh and the UK (who were rightfully upset that Mossadegh was stealing their oil).
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layman
 
  -1  
Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:39 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Earlier on Monday, Toronto Mayor John Tory called for stricter gun control, denouncing the city’s “gun problem” and asking, “why does anyone in this city need to have a gun at all?”

Considering Hussain walked around unimpeded, randomly firing his handgun into crowds and restaurants for at least several minutes before the police showed up, wounding multiple people and murdering two, and not a single person was able to intervene.

And Tory has the unmitigated gall to question why anyone would need a tool of self defense?


Typical commie logic, there, sho nuff.

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izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 12:38 am
@glitterbag,
Over here it's shown on Channel 4. It's amazing what he manages to get people to say. It's the highlight of my week, my favourite character is the ex Mosad terrorist expert in the above clip.

Real Chris Morris Brass Eye stuff.

I'm looking forward to the one with Sarah Palin.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 12:43 am
@izzythepush,
Have you seen the episode where former elected officials agree it would be a good thing to arm toddlers? and the young school children? It's beyond belief.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 12:50 am
@glitterbag,
Yes that was last week. I don't know if they're being shown at the same time or if one of us ahead of the other. We've had two episodes so far.

Last night there was some vacuous woman from The Bachelor making a charity appeal to help train child soldiers in Africa so they can more effectively blow up hospitals and refugee camps. With her it got to the point where the laughter turned into gasps of amazement as she actually said this ****.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 01:02 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Have you seen the episode where former elected officials agree it would be a good thing to arm toddlers? and the young school children? It's beyond belief.
Well, some sort of armed defense seems in order.

Instead of arming the kids though, I propose that teachers be given the option of having a .30-30 in a gun safe in their classroom, with only the teacher and the principal knowing the combination to the safe.
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 01:09 am
@izzythepush,
I have only seen a few clips of various episodes. I can get the show on demand because it's part of my membership so tomorrow, if I'm feeling strong enough I'll check them out Tues. It's been very demoralizing to realize how stupid so many people are and it doesn't look like those folks are going to try to get better informed. It's hard to find stupid amusing since Trump's disastrous press conference in Helsinki.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 02:46 am
@glitterbag,
Cohen is a master in giving them enough rope so they hang themselves.
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gungasnake
 
  -1  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 03:37 am
Russian interference in a US election you say??

https://www.mintpressnews.com/governments-own-data-shows-us-interfered-in-81-foreign-elections/226143/#.W1WRsZh3dWk.facebook
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gungasnake
 
  -2  
Tue 24 Jul, 2018 03:37 am
Russian interference in a US election you say??

https://www.mintpressnews.com/governments-own-data-shows-us-interfered-in-81-foreign-elections/226143/#.W1WRsZh3dWk.facebook
 

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