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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 04:37 pm
@maporsche,
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Still way better than Pence.
Pense would not be as nutso as regards foreign relations. The danger to Dems (if Pence was elevated) would be that domestically he would be as bad or worse - but he'd look saner, more reasonable. His radicalism would be less front and center.

The best outcome for people not crazy would be if Trump remains in office but keeps on just as he has been while the GOP (and the media elements that are now acting as a propagandist state media) continue to show themselves as corrupt weasels who care only about power. If they can follow Trump this far into the toilet, there's little reason to imagine even very serious charges coming down from Mueller's team will suddenly make them moral agents. Electoral damage is the ONLY thing that will alter their course. Until US citizens in much greater numbers recognize how deeply the corruption has gone, there won't be a correction.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 04:42 pm
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Non-Profit Sues Former Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton and DNC Over Dossier

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As Breitbart News first reported, the Coolidge Reagan Foundation said in the complaint: “For over a year, Democratic officials have accused the Trump Administration of collaborating with foreign interlopers to influence the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election. In reality, it was the Clinton-backed Democratic machine that conspired with foreigners in violation of both federal campaign finance law and basic decency to manipulate the election.”

The foundation added, “The Clinton campaign weaponized American intelligence and law enforcement communities — led by Democratic appointees of President Barack Obama —through false, malicious, wholly manufactured lies about the Republican nominee, now President, Donald J. Trump.”

The complaint notes that while the Clinton campaign reported all legal expenses to Perkins Coie from January 2016 through December 2017, Fusion GPS was never mentioned.

Maybe Killary will be bankrupt after all of this. Associates of Trump have been by the Mueller investigation. It would be nice if she was jailed too.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-clinton-trump-dossier-lawsuit/
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 04:44 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
His radicalism would be less front and center.


can't agree there

he might couch things more coherently, but 'that just makes him more dangerous
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 04:44 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Until US citizens in much greater numbers recognize how deeply the corruption has gone, there won't be a correction.

The number who believe that the corruption was in the Obama administration is growing.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:04 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
but 'that just makes him more dangerous

He(Trump) has made the world safer. Justin plays dress up and you have the nerve to complain about a country that is the only thing that keeps freedom alive, fought for it twice, saving the wold both times. You are lucky America exists and you insist on trying to destabilize it and destroy it.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:11 pm
@ehBeth,
I think we mean the same thing.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:24 pm
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Everyone Is Smart Except Trump


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Trump’s voters get him because not only is he we, but we are he. We were not snowflaked-for-life by effete professors who themselves never had negotiated tough life-or-death serious deals. Instead we live in the real world, and we know how that works. Not based on social science theories, not based on “conceptual negotiating models.” But based on the people we have met over life and always will hate. That worst boss we ever had. The coworker who tried to sabotage us. We know the sons of bums whom we survived, the dastardly types who are out there, and we learned from those experiences how to deal with them. We won’t have John Kerry soothe us by having James Taylor sing “You’ve Got a Friend” carols.

When are people going to realize that? Is that why the Left has to resort to lying and violence? Because they are so smart.
https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/
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izzythepush
 
  6  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:39 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Montenegro's an interesting target.



Quote:
Donald Trump reckons that Montenegro is a "tiny country with very strong people". And he will soon discover that they have forceful opinions as well.

"He's the strangest president in the history of the United States," Ranko Krivokapic told the BBC.

Mr Krivokapic knows a thing or two about being a president. He served as President of the Parliament of Montenegro from its independence in 2006 until 2016 - and remains president of the opposition Social Democratic Party.

It is fair to say he is unimpressed with the current US president's approach to diplomacy and world affairs.

"With this kind of president, with his knowledge of foreign policy, who knows what is going on? Foreign policy is not his big thing."

In an interview with Fox News, Mr Trump suggested that this country of fewer than a million citizens could somehow provoke a global conflict. His reply to interviewer Tucker Carlson caused jaws to drop on the Adriatic coast.

"Let's say Montenegro, which joined last year, is attacked," Carlson told the president. "Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?"

He was referring to Article 5 of the Nato founding treaty, which sees an attack on one member as an attack on all. Mr Trump understood his point.

"They're very strong people, they're very aggressive people. They may get aggressive and, congratulations, you're in World War Three," Mr Trump extemporised.

Article 5 has been invoked just once, by the US, after the attacks of 11 September 2001.

Boris Raonic, programme director at the Civic Alliance human rights organisation, was among those who could barely believe what they were hearing.

"We are used to having [a US president] who unites and promotes Western values; now, instead of a leader, we have a showman."

Mr Raonic says even this would not matter so much if Mr Trump had bothered to study the countries and issues about which he was making snap pronouncements.

"He is obviously not reading what the state department prepares for him, so we get these stupid statements, which clearly show a lack of knowledge and respect for role that the US had until now."

Mr Trump's depiction of Montenegro as a nation of conflict-crazy lunatics will probably come as a surprise to the million tourists who come each year to enjoy the mountains and beaches.

And it is not a picture that Ranko Krivokapic recognises either.

"Peace in Montenegro is not in any kind of danger. Everything is under control - Nato forces are not required in Montenegro."

Boris Raonic is equally unimpressed by Mr Trump's characterisation of modern-day Montenegrins.

"Montenegro departed from its [militaristic] tradition more than half a century ago. [Mr Trump's] claims are, to say the least, inappropriate as we are narrowing our path towards EU accession. Being a Nato member provides us additional security."

But it doesn't necessarily guarantee respect.

Montenegro's Prime Minister Dusko Markovic discovered that at a Nato summit last year, when Mr Trump shoved him out of the way as heads of government assembled for a "family photograph".

The US president may also be betraying his ignorance of - or insensitivity towards - Russia's recent activity in the Western Balkans.

Russia has made it clear that it still sees the region as part of its sphere of influence.

Prior to Montenegro's Nato accession, Russia's then-deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin, said the former Yugoslav republic would "regret" joining the alliance.

Montenegrin prosecutors allege that Moscow was behind a subsequent apparent coup attempt in 2016; Russia has denied responsibility.

Ranko Krivokapic says he is concerned that his country may have been a bargaining chip at the Trump-Putin summit.

"I hope Montenegro was not on the table in Helsinki; I hope Mr Trump was just giving a reaction to the Fox question, nothing deeper.

"It is very important for us that we are part of Nato. The issue is practically closed and accepted in Montenegro; we are accepted as part of the West."

Boris Raonic, meanwhile, has some withering words in response to Mr Trump's praise for Russia's role in World War Two.

"Proportionate to the number of inhabitants, Montenegro had the largest number of casualties in both world wars, as we led the struggle despite being one of the smallest nations in the region."

More outraged Montenegrins are sure to use the US president's preferred medium, Twitter, to put him right. Doubtless in a strong, aggressive fashion.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44877718
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:01 pm
It just dawned on me that the two leading cultural centers in the US, California and New York. are the two places conservatives most want to nuke.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:20 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
the two leading cultural centers in the US, California and New York
LOL!
glitterbag
 
  6  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:29 pm
@blatham,
Yep, we don't need no stinking culture and remember those 13 original colonies who fought for independence???? They are all on the East Coast, you know what that means right? East Coast elitists!!!! They should all get stuffed, lets move the museums to Nebraska or Mississippi, where the real Americans live.
ehBeth
 
  4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:31 pm
@blatham,
That could be a problem for #45 and his inner team of elites. They're pretty much all coastal types.
jcboy
 
  6  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:58 pm
@ehBeth,
tRump proves he knows so little about the family farms. The margins are so narrow. A failed crop, natural disasters and inability to finance growth can wipe a farm in one season. He promised the moon and many bought into it!

Trump official dismisses US farmers facing huge losses from trade war

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Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue belittled American farmers on Wednesday.

“It’s a little bit like weight loss,” Perdue said of the tariffs that are damaging the bottom line for lots of red state, U.S. farmers. “It’s going to be good to get there but it is a little painful in the meantime.”

Perdue referred to Trump’s reckless tariffs as “trade disruptions we’re experiencing,” as if they weren’t specifically manufactured and imposed by the Trump administration. His remarks echoed Trump’s dismissive rhetoric about how trade wars are “easy to win.”

“Wait a minute, ‘Trade disruptions we’re experiencing.’ That sounds very passive,” stressed Axios editor Mike Allen, as he interviewed Perdue. “In fact, it’s your president, it’s your administration, that’s disrupting trade.”
layman
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 07:06 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

blatham wrote:
the two leading cultural centers in the US, California and New York
LOL!


Leading in continuous cultural decline, eh?
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jcboy
 
  8  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 07:09 pm
@jcboy,
The people should have listened to Hillary!

coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 07:44 pm
@jcboy,
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The people should have listened to Hillary!

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:02 pm
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Democrats Push Bill to Alter Presidency

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To date, as TruNews has previously reported, only three of the 17 intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia hacked into the Democratic National Committee—an assessment that has been made without any access to the DNC server. At least two other intelligence agencies have expressed deep reservations about that assessment,
and no other members of the intelligence community were asked to weigh in.

These new circumstances would suggest the Deep State is attempting to use the “Russia Narrative” as the means to strip not just President Donald Trump, but all future presidents, of one of their most important constitutional powers.


The Democrats want to turn the presidency into a figurehead run by a political elite. They have 0 respect for the Constitution. And their hate for Trump is no reason to shred this document. Who is the threat to our way of life?
https://www.trunews.com/stream/democrats-push-bill-to-alter-presidency

blatham
 
  3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 09:42 pm
@glitterbag,
It really adds weight to the thesis that fear of change is at the root of conservatism.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 10:25 pm
@blatham,
Change can be a very bad thing.

Try burning down your house. That's a change. Is it good?
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 10:27 pm
@ehBeth,
You'd think. It isn't.
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