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layman
 
  -2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 02:51 am
@Builder,
Yeah, I agree, and it's certainly been effective with "most people" who tune into them. And, when it all comes crashing down, the media will just claim that they too were deceived. But they been working hand in glove 24/7 with the "deep state" to create and maintain a false narrative and to undermine Trump daily to the best of their ability.

It will be interesting to see if very many of those who believe them will ever come think they're not completely honest and trustworthy. Probably not.
Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 02:56 am
@layman,
There's a shopping list of times when they've been dead wrong (on purpose), but the plebs just want to be told what to think, I reckon.

It's not just the dumbing down thang, but the whole "I'm a lazy ass, and won't read or research if you paid me..."
layman
 
  -3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 03:04 am
@Builder,
I agree with that too. In my experience only a small percentage of people, even brilliant people, have much inclination to think critically. They tend to never question the basic assumptions about the world, what's valuable, what's important, etc. that they formulated years ago.

Critical thinking is just rare, for any number of reasons. Not the least of which Hume set forth pretty well:


David Hume wrote:
“Reason is, and ought only to be, the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.”


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oralloy
 
  -4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 03:12 am
http://floridahomeprepper.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/aa.jpg
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 03:56 am
@oralloy,
Exactly! And that will last for 30-40 years. And, by that time, who knows? People may come to understand the need for rational, self-disciplined judges who refrain from trying to appoint themselves as a "super-legislature" which makes the laws as it sees fit.

Leave that to the people and their elected officials. Maybe no one will want more Sotomeyers and Ginsburgs on the court in the future.
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Lash
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:34 am
Trump is saying publicly that he’s considering turning over to Russia an American ambassador ?

Builder
 
  0  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 05:40 am
@Lash,
Olive twig of peace.
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maporsche
 
  4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:02 am
@layman,
Woah woah woah...you’re taking these things WAAAAAAAY too literally

You’re not supposed to do that anymore. Just stop it and relax a bit man. We are in a new America.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 06:52 am
Why the hell aren't car horns blaring away out on every street? Why no fireworks and AK47 blasts towards beautiful, strong heaven? Why? You know why. Haters!
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Really big jobs meeting today at the White House! 3 P.M.
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revelette1
 
  5  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 07:13 am
@Lash,
Yes, it is outrageous.

Quote:
On Wednesday, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders declined to rule out the Kremlin’s request to question McFaul and other Americans. Asked during the daily press briefing if President Trump is open to the idea of having McFaul questioned by Russia, Sanders said President Trump is “going to meet with his team” to discuss the offer.


Quote:
“There was some conversation about it,” between Trump and Putin, Sanders said, “but there wasn’t a commitment made on behalf of the United States. And the President will work with his team, and we’ll let you know if there’s an announcement on that front.”


Quote:
“Let’s recall why Putin began making outrageous, false accusations against @McFaul,” tweeted Samantha Power, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. “Mike stood up for human rights and against Russian oppression. That terrified Putin. The fact that @realDonaldTrump won’t stand up for an American patriot is a travesty.”


Quote:
Speaking to CNN’s Don Lemon on Wednesday, James Clapper, former director of national intelligence, described the potential of such an exchange with Putin as “crazy.”

“I’ve never heard of such a thing,” Clapper said. “To turn over any U.S. citizen, particularly a former ambassador, for the Russians to interrogate him? You’ve got to be kidding.”


Quote:
McFaul, a Hoover fellow at Stanford University and the director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, responded to the White House message forcefully on Twitter.

“I hope the White House corrects the record and denounces in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin,” McFaul, who served as U.S. ambassador to Russia from 2012 to 2014, wrote. “Not doing so creates moral equivalency” between a legitimate “US indictment of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin.”

“When Trump says Russia is no longer targeting America, that’s not how this American feels,” McFaul also tweeted. “Putin is most certainly targeting and intimidating me. And I’m an American.”


Quote:
Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) suggested that turning over McFaul for questioning would be grounds for impeaching Trump.

“Take this to the bank, @realDonaldTrump: you turn over former U.S. Ambassador @McFaul to Putin, you can count on me and millions others to swiftly make you an ex-president,” Swalwell tweeted.

“There’s no reason we would open up our evidence files, send our investigators over there to let them review that,” Swalwell also told CNN’s Erin Burnett. “That would be like a victim allowing the burglar to set up the home security system. That’s ridiculous.”


WP
blatham
 
  6  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:02 am
Gun ownership in Israel (this is data I did not know)
Quote:
It betrayed a lamentable ignorance about Israeli society, which has a low rate of private gun ownership — reported at about 3.5 percent of the population. As an Israeli Ministry of Education spokesman told The Washington Post’s Ruth Eglash this year, “professionals deal with the security” in Israel’s schools, “not the teachers,” and not the children. Even in a country with compulsory military service, gun permit applicants “must justify their need to be armed” and civilians “are subjected to an array of restrictions on the types of guns they can own, on the amount of ammunition they can possess, as well as guidelines on where to keep their guns.”
WP
blatham
 
  6  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:08 am
Quote:
Fossil fuel industry spent nearly $2 billion to kill U.S. climate action, new study finds
TP
Just a reminder regarding who the enemy is.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:18 am
@revelette1,
Has an ambassador ever been turned over to a foreign power (especially one as 'cold' to the US as Russia) for doing their government related duties?

Really asking; I'm not sure.
revelette1
 
  4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:20 am
How stupid does she think people are?

Quote:
“I had a chance to speak with the president after his comments, and the president said ‘thank you very much,’ and was saying no to answering questions,” Sanders said. “The president and his administration are working very hard to make sure that Russia is unable to meddle in our elections as they have done in the past and as we have stated.”

But Sanders’ explanation makes no sense. If Trump was really saying “no” to answering questions in general, and not in response to the specific question the reporter asked him about Russia, then why did he spend the next block of time answering questions from reporters?
maporsche
 
  5  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:23 am
@revelette1,


Oh....I'd wager VERY stupid.

For example, soon we're going to get some people on this very board defending her and Trump on this.
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revelette1
 
  4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:31 am
@maporsche,
Ambassadors have diplomatic immunity. I looked it up/this is from wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 08:34 am
This site is a microcosm of the industrial grade moron phenomenon.
Quote:
Poll: Huge GOP majority backs Trump's Putin performance
graph here
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 09:10 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
Ambassadors have diplomatic immunity.

He is not an ambassador anymore.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 09:16 am
@coldjoint,
So the Russians will inverrogate him about what happened after he quit the job?
Blickers
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jul, 2018 09:16 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Poll: Huge GOP majority backs Trump's Putin performance
More proof-as if any is needed-that if people want to believe something enough, they will find a way to believe it.
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