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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 10:33 pm
Quote:
Trump-Putin Meeting: Fraudulent intelligence reports created to make Obama appear successful

No kidding? We already know Obama had reports altered to suit his narrative.
https://conservativebase.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2018/07/Brennan-and-Clapper.jpg
Quote:
The truth is that then-President Barack Obama was informed about Russian, Chinese, North Korean and other nations hacking into the U.S. cyber-systems by his NSA, CIA, DIA and other agencies and Obama did absolutely nothing. In fact, in the Winter of 2015, a top intelligence news correspondent informed the nation and the world that there was probable-cause or reasonable-suspicion to believe President Obama had his top intelligence people “revise” intelligence so his administration would deliver to Americans a Pollyanna view of the world especially in the so-called war on extremism formerly know as the war on Islamic terrorism.

https://conservativebase.com/trump-putin-meeting-fraudulent-intelligence-reports-created-to-make-obama-appear-successful/
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 10:44 pm
Still smiling about not being in the dead crow restaurant in Lexipoop Virginia...

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37295139_10155716606036984_3255431106941419520_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0f0dc07ee0f53976ba5195f84961676f&oe=5BD964AE
Real Music
 
  5  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 10:51 pm
Cuomo: Trump betrayed country as exercise in vanity.
CNN's Chris Cuomo reacts to President Donald Trump's comments
during the summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 11:46 pm
@gungasnake,
catch up, it's reopened.
oristarA
 
  1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 12:12 am
The Mirror is bashing Trump:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiA4uq_XcAAg5Hw.jpg

“You insult our country, attack our [National Health Service], embarrass our Queen, undermine our ‘special relationship,’ humiliate our [prime minister]…and then smugly pose in Winston Churchill’s armchair!”
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 12:16 am
@MontereyJack,
What could be so important to Trump that he is willing to betray our country? Is he getting senile, does he think he owns the country? I don't understand any of this. People can make terrible decisions, but still do it because they think it's good for the country....What in ******* hell is happening here.
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 12:50 am
@coldjoint,
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-16/putin-claims-us-intelligence-agents-funneled-400-million-clinton-campaign
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Real Music
 
  2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:01 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
What could be so important to Trump that he is willing to betray our country? Is he getting senile, does he think he owns the country? I don't understand any of this. People can make terrible decisions, but still do it because they think it's good for the country....What in ******* hell is happening here.
Trump simply just may be guilty of some serious crimes. Possibly multiple serious crimes. Trump and Putin both may be involved in multiple serious crimes against America. Thank God that Mueller is doing serious investigations.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:03 am
@glitterbag,
Putin's got something, something a lot more career destroying that some pissy prostitute stuff. I don't want to speculate but I'm reminded of that bit in The Godfather where the Nevada Congressman murders one of their girls.

I reckin it's something that would send Trump straight to jail.
Real Music
 
  2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:06 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Putin's got something, something a lot more career destroying that some pissy prostitute stuff.

I believe that you are probably correct.
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Builder
 
  -4  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:26 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
What could be so important to Trump that he is willing to betray our country?


Did he sell 20% of your uranium deposits to a non-allied former Cold war enemy? Perhaps he lied about a reason for invading a sovereign nation? Or took payments from Saudi nationals, while pretending to support women's rights?
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gungasnake
 
  -1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:34 am
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/crooked-hillary-desperately-tries-to-deflect-after-putin-drops-bombshell-us-intel-helped-move-400000000-to-clinton-campaign/

Quote:

The President didn’t hold back at the press conference on Monday; he called out the Democrats and Deep State witch hunt and slammed Hillary Clinton.

Then Putin dropped a bombshell!
Putin dropped a bomb and claimed US Intel helped American-born British financier, Bill Browder, move $400 million to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Vladimir Putin: Last year there was one extradition case by the United States… Mueller can use this treaty as an official request to us… in this case this kind of effort should be a reciprocal one… For instance we can bring up Mr. Browder… They sent a huge amount of money $400,000,000 to Hillary Clinton! …So we have solid reason to believe that some [US] intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions. So we have an interest in questioning them.

Social media was set ablaze after Putin dropped this bombshell and called Mueller’s bluff over his indictment of 12 Russian military officers.

Crooked Hillary desperately tried to deflect from the nuke Putin dropped on her.

In a grotesque display of unabated hubris, Hillary Clinton attacked President Trump to deflect from her own corruption.....





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Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 01:36 am
@glitterbag,
They have compromising stuff on him; he's got financial interests in Russia; and he owes them his current job. Either he plays ball and denies the whole thing, or he must resign.

And we know what Russians do to their mules when they try to emancipate themselves... Novistock, anyone?
gungasnake
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 02:05 am
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37179098_10217164308323339_1961910669624213504_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f020020ce78992a27fc8c554c5ab928c&oe=5BDB6EB7
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NSFW (view)
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 02:32 am
What a surprise. You don't say, the Mirror attacking a right wing president.

https://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=64360&vid=4

Breaking news, water is wet.

Sorry in a hurry, this is what I should have posted.
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 02:51 am
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A new report claims that nuclear materials stolen from US Department of Energy (DOE) employees last year in Texas are still missing.

The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) reports that plutonium and cesium were stolen from the officials' car when they stayed overnight at a hotel.

Authorities have not publicly commented on the theft, CPI reports, but a DOE official confirmed it to the BBC.

A DOE official told the BBC the public is not at risk due to the theft.

The security officials from the DOE's Idaho National Laboratory had driven to San Antonio in March 2017 to collect nuclear materials from a research laboratory.

They had in their possession radiation detectors and disks of plutonium and cesium to calibrate the devices to ensure they would collect the right materials from the laboratory.

Plutonium is one of the most dangerous substances in existence. It was the main ingredient of the infamous Fat Man atomic bomb which killed 70,000 in Nagasaki during World War Two.

Radioactive cesium can also be used in "dirty" radioactive bombs.

The officials reportedly left these sensors and disks of nuclear materials in the rental car when they retired to the hotel, which CPI reports was in a high-crime neighbourhood.

The next morning, they discovered the car had been broken into and the devices and disks had been stolen.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44852863
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najmelliw
 
  1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:00 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Putin's got something, something a lot more career destroying that some pissy prostitute stuff. I don't want to speculate but I'm reminded of that bit in The Godfather where the Nevada Congressman murders one of their girls.

I reckin it's something that would send Trump straight to jail.


I'm not sure, really. I think Trump is just being judged as a politician (as he should be!), where he is approaching all these things as a businessman. He admires Putin for being a strong leader. He wants to deal with this man. So anything standing in between such cooperation needs to be 'removed'. All these allegations about Russian interference in the 2016 campaign clearly stand in the way. And what better way to cozy up to the man you want to make some sort of a deal with, than by blaming all problems 'on your own organization', and siding with said man when talking about the details?

I doubt if Trump sees the political implications of dissing the institutions in his own country in favor of Putin. It's sad, really.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:07 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
I simply cannot fathom how the hell this happened.

It's been long in the making, starting with a process best described as the 'dumbing down' of America, via defunding public education and launching disinformation campaigns, eg on climate change. This effort was essentially a Republican one. The result is generations of ill-informed, easily influenceable voters. The Tea Party, etc.

Then the Internet came along. Soon, for every healthy informational website out there (eg wikipedia) there were hundreds of disinformation outlets pedling fake news to a gullible populace. The US is the most Internet-dependent country on earth, and hence the most exposed to its negative effects.

(Other countries are fast catching up though... See the recent watsap-induced murder sprees in India.)

This is not about Trump; he's just a puppet amongst many others. This is about survival of bona fide democracy in the age of mass disinformation.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:12 am
@najmelliw,
That might explain his response re Russian meddling, but it does not explain his attacks on NATO and his lukewarm response to the invasion of Crimea and Assad's war crimes, (with Russian backing,) in Syria.

Russia and Trump go back a long way, long before he was running for office. Putin has had a long time to collect damning evidence. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if it was Putin's idea that Trump should run for president in the first place.
 

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