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@Walter Hinteler,

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I don't know to what single ("one") mistake you are referring here.

You don't know, and I don't care. Is that clear, Wally?

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Hillary 2020 – All signs point to “She’s Running”

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/07/hillary-2020-all-signs-point-to-shes-running/

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@coldjoint,

I honestly fear that you don't care.
In India recently 23 people were lynched from locals who had read some fake news ... ...

But, of course

coldjoint wrote:

Is that clear, Wally?

Yes, sir, yes. As you order, sir.

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10 arrested in anti-Semitic assault in Berlin park

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Police did not give the names or nationalities of the suspects or the victim, but German daily Welt had reported that all involved are Syrians.

Police said the victim had approached the group in a park to borrow a lighter, but his cigarette was snatched away.

The 25-year-old was wearing a chain with a star of David, which police said was ripped from the victim's neck by one of the men, while spewing "anti-Semitic insults".

How is this source, besides Jewish? This is what Islam brings, hate and violence. The country means nothing and its laws mean nothing to them. Anyone who thinks they do is a coward or an apologist, or both. Now I'm done. I lied again. Laughing

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/248595

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@coldjoint,

No-one published/aired/broadcast something different.

Wait, some did (included the mentioned "Die Welt"): the victim is a Syrian refugee (of Jewish religion), four of the attackers are Syrians, four others police-known German neo-Nazis ...

coldjoint wrote:

its laws mean nothing to them.

I agree, that's the trouble with the extreme right here.

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@coldjoint,

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Debunk this site

http s://www.gates toneinstitute.org

give us a hard one eh

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gatestone-institute/

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. Many of the articles will link back to sites that don’t say what they claim or make the same rash judgments, without proof. Example: Obama tells Christians to not protest in Egypt then has no quotes or sources saying he said that.

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@ehBeth,

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give us a hard one eh

Your fact check site is bias. That simple. Try again. And how many dead Christians are there? Does your site say? Do you really think these Christians are not being killed?

And call Justin if you want a hard one, if you think he is capable of that, I kind of doubt it.

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Debunk this site, or its information.

So in other words we just caught you pushing a Russian Fake News site pushing a false story about German censorship-which censorship never happened-and now immediately you're onto a different story.

No apology. No recognition of what you posted was false information. Just more accusation and commands to the rest of the board to believe you and your Russian Fake News sites.

How about dealing with the fact that your quoted Russian Fake News site also is saying that Kim Jong Un was held by immigration authorities in the Heathrow Airport, UK, for half a day because he tried to sneak into the country using a disguise and got caught? Do you have any comments on that? After all, it's YOUR source.

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@coldjoint,

Follow the gate stone links. If they provide them. Mediabias and numerous other sites busted them for fake news. It's not hard to do.

Always follow the links or cross check.

That's my advice for wmcjr and other posters who care about the facts.

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@Blickers,

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No apology.

I said I made a mistake. Pay attention. Am I off ignore until the mob destroys me? Good luck with that.

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@coldjoint,

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And call Justin if you want a hard one

You'll need to clarify this.

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@ehBeth,

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You'll need to clarify this.

Why?

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Here, Coldjoint, explain THIS. After all, it's the source you use:

North Korea Threatens Retaliation As Kim Jong-un Deported From UK
January 3, 2016 Baxter Dmitry Weird 4

Kim Jong-un detained at Heathrow airport before being deported

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was detained at London Heathrow airport for 12 hours before being deported after attempting to enter the United Kingdom in disguise and using a fake tourist visa, say Heathrow immigration officials.

After arriving on an early morning Air China flight, his documents were questioned and he was taken into custody for further questioning. After hours of interrogation the North Korean leader broke down and admitted who he was, and announced that he wanted to see Buckingham Palace, visit Harrods, and attend a Premier League football match, preferably Manchester United versus Chelsea.

According to North Korean military sources, the deportation of the supreme leader is being viewed as an act of aggression in Pyongyang.

“The People’s Republic of Korea condemns, in the most serious tone possible, this act of extreme aggression towards our dear leader,” read a statement on the government-run website North Korean Central Information. “If another transgression of this type occurs in the near future we will be left with no choice but to retaliate with the total force of our military.”

North Korea is the proud owner of the world’s third largest free standing army. Pyongyang insiders are painting a picture of an “angry” army that has been “aggressively woken from a peaceful slumber” by the news of Kim Jong-un’s deportation.

The UK Home Office have not yet commented on this case.
Coldjoint's Russian Fake News Site

So when does North Korea start marching on the UK to avenge this rough treatment of their leader by UK immigration authorities?

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Quote coldjoint:

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Debunk this site, or its information.

So in other words we just caught you pushing a Russian Fake News site pushing a false story about German censorship-which censorship never happened-and now immediately you're onto a different story.

cj's aren't usually Russian. some are, but most of his are extreme far-right US-based sites. they often show up on ACLU hate site listings. gs is more likely to use the Russian ones. they've been his go-to for well over a decade.

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@coldjoint,

You were unclear.

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@ehBeth,

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cj's [sources] aren't usually Russian. some are, but most of his are extreme far-right US-based sites. they often show up on ACLU hate site listings. gs is more likely to use the Russian ones. they've been his go-to for well over a decade.

Technically I'm sure you are correct, but as Trump himself is illustrating, the Far Right has largely ceded its public relations effort to the Russians, to the point where very little of their stuff is American. Whatever the American neo-Nazis start themselves, the Russian troll effort adopts, adapts to Russian interests, (anti-Israel, anti-Europe, anti-NATO, out-of-c0ntrol misogyny, etc) and pushes out there much more efficiently.

At this point, it is getting difficult to tell where the American neo-Nazi effort ends and the Russian adoption and big push begins.

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@Blickers,

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yournewswire.com

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

Los Angeles based

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https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dont-get-fooled-by-these-fake-news-sites/5/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites

https://www.snopes.com/tag/yournewswire-com/

http://www.newswhip.com/2018/04/still-sharing-junk-fake-news/

https://globalnews.ca/tag/your-news-wire-flu-shot-fake-news/

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not sure if anyone else spends time on FB but this initiative seems to be working

https://thinkprogress.org/facebook-fake-news-might-finally-start-to-improve-009129efd36c/

the factchecks have come up for some articles acquaintances posted - it was really good to see that

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@Blickers,

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Technically I'm sure you are correct, but

if we're asking others to be correct, it is probably good if we try to get things correct as well

def not claiming I'm 100% but I try. Research/info's my thing eh.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

http://www.newswhip.com/2018/04/still-sharing-junk-fake-news/

this is a really interesting read for news/info nerds

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@ehBeth,

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if we're asking others to be correct, it is probably good if we try to get things correct as well

True, the site is owned by Europeans presently living in Los Angeles. But we know the Russian troll effort has gone out of it's way to physically set up sites here in the US. And even one of your sources quotes an expert who says YourNewsWire relentlessly promotes Russian propaganda.

Edit: Rationalwiki had the following quote:

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. However, Joel Harding (a Kremlin propaganda expert) believed that Russians were using YourNewsWire as a mule or proxy to spread disinformation.[5]

If somebody goes through the trouble of relentlessly promoting Russian propaganda, I don't think it's unfair to label it a Russian news site. Especially if all that money and effort is expended to promote the Russian version of things, it's a pretty good bet that Russian funding is in the mix somewhere.

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