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coldjoint
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 12:04 pm
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Why the Resistance is futile


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6. The Tea Party was American. The Resistance was French.

This article explains why the "Resistance" is doomed. There are 5 other points but this last one is encouraging and frightening. First, the French are not the worlds best when it comes to a fight. The Resistance was against real Nazis, not people who were called Nazis.
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/06/why-resistance-is-futile.html?spref=tw
layman
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 12:14 pm
@layman,
I especially liked the hispanic bitch at CNN who said that anyone who would call a human being an animal was a Nazi.

Turns out she had just recently herself called Trump an animal, while apologizing to animals for the comparison.

Their laudable intentions (aka "policy disagreements") and impeccable integrity comes through every time. And the American people see it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 12:41 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The Resistance was against real Nazis, not people who were called Nazis.
Résistance (French for resistance) or résistance intérieure française (name outside France) is the general name of the French resistance movement against the German occupiers and the Vichy government during the Second World War.
(One of the numerous résistance groups was within the German navy, led by Petty Officer Hans Seidel)
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firefly
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 12:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/lWwZmfr.jpg

http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/4-wolverton.jpg?resize=807x807

Refugees seeking asylum are entitled to due process--due process is protected under the Constitution.
The President took an oath to, "Preserve, protect, and defend, the Constitution of the United States."

Is he now trying to violate the Constitution and the laws we live by? Or is he so ignorant of the Constitution, immigration law, and asylum procedures, that he is demonstrating how dangerously unfit for office he is?

layman
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 12:58 pm
FBI informant met with three Trump advisers during campaign, report says

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The FBI’s Russia investigation targeting the Trump campaign involved a top-secret informant who served in three previous Republican administrations and has deep ties to American and British intelligence officials, according to reports.

The source, said to be a 73-year-old professor from University of Cambridge in the U.K., met with Trump campaign advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos in the summer of 2016, according to the reports. The informant also reportedly met with Trump co-chair Sam Clovis in August 2016. The Post reported that the source met with Clovis and offered his experience.

The New York Times reported that the person approached Papadopoulos with an offer of money to write an academic paper about energy in the eastern Mediterranean region. “There has been some speculation that he might have tried to reel me in,” Page told The Post in an interview.


Some flunkies in Nixon's campaign tried to steal a few files from a DNC office, and the whole country is in an uproar. Obama and his homey's seek to use government agencies to systematically infiltrate Trump's campaign with paid spies (this guy is said to have received about $1 million from the FBI and other agencies) and that's not "spying," and, in any event, it was for Trump's own good.

Even worse, they have gone to great lengths in an attempt to frame him with a crime in order to impeach him.

Go figure, eh?

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Sturgis
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 01:17 pm
@coldjoint,
All people are entitled to due process. It's the law of the land, not just for a select few.
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layman
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 01:25 pm
@firefly,
"Due process" doesn't mean they're entitled to a hearing before a judge. And that's true even if they are seeking asylum.
Sturgis
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 01:26 pm
@coldjoint,
Look at your own words. You were looking to exclude those who you (or anyone else I suppose) believe were "coached" in their bid for asylum. They have the same right to due process as, well, even you.
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firefly
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 01:49 pm
@layman,
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"Due process" doesn't mean they're entitled to a hearing before a judge. And that's true even if they are seeking asylum.


They are entitled to a hearing "before a neutral judge or arbiter"--so that effectively requires a judge in asylum cases.
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What is procedural due process?

The phrase “due process” describes the legal principle that the government must respect the rights afforded to U.S. citizens under the law. It comes from the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (and the Fourteenth Amendment, in which it is repeated), which states that “no person may be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

Today, the phrase “due process” usually refers to one of two sets of rights. The first is substantive due process, which includes rights related to personhood, like the right not to be discriminated against or the right to privacy. The second is “procedural due process,” which govern how legal proceedings must be carried out.

The core procedural due process rights are the rights to notice and a hearing. In other words, in any legal or administrative proceeding, any person who might be negatively affected by the outcome of the proceeding has the right to be told that the proceeding is going to take place, the right to appear before a neutral judge or arbiter, and the right to explain his or her side of the case before a decision is made. This right applies to all types of government-related cases, from administrative decisions to civil cases to full-fledged criminal trials. It applies to cases that involve federal, state, or local government units. The U.S. Supreme Court has even held that limited rights to notice and a hearing apply even to people who are not U.S. citizens, such as undocumented immigrants, prisoners of war, or “enemy combatants” held in U.S. prisons or detention facilities...

http://www.rotlaw.com/legal-library/what-is-procedural-due-process/
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firefly
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 02:11 pm
@layman,
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some democratically-controlled "sanctuary city," with widespread violence and lawlessness

If you think we have such widespread violence and lawlessness, you obviously also have a very low opinion of our police and law enforcement agencies.

Fortunately, your view of such "sanctuary cities" appears to be more fantasy than reality.

BTW, El Salvador and Honduras have some of the highest violence rates in the world--In both 2015 and 2016, El Salvador was the world′s most violent country, and its capital, San Salvador, was the most murderous city. Honduras: San Pedro Sula, which for years wore the unwelcome crown as the world′s most murderous city, now ranks third.

Is it really any wonder why so many, desperate to protect their lives and the lives of their children, come here seeking asylum?
layman
 
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Sun 24 Jun, 2018 02:19 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:


BTW, El Salvador and Honduras have some of the highest violence rates in the world...

Is it really any wonder why so many, desperate to protect their lives and the lives of their children, come here seeking asylum?


It's no wonder that they head out, no. The "wonder" is that they come here thinking they are entitled to stay. Maybe they should have tried Mexico for asylum before trekking thousands of miles on foot through it to get here, eh?

I'm sure Mexico would have kept them, because every cheese-eater and his brother tells me that every country in the world (except us) would grant them asylum.
 

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