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Demokkkrats and children...

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Demokkkrats and children...

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@ehBeth,

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Americans who agree with the separation policy are more likely to be white, very conservative, evangelical, older, and to live in rural areas

Oh my, that makes them bad? I say they do not want to reward bad behavior that undermines the safety of our citizens. And you are agreeing with a racial stereotype. "You" guys cant help being hypocritical about absolutely anything can you?

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@revelette1,

I asked you a few pages back about your opinion of Canadian laws and procedures that also require the separation of parents incarcerated for crimes and their children - an exactly comparable situation. You haven't yet replied.

The alternative to the current enforcement of the law is non enforcement, and the cascading loss of control of our borders, and all that implies. Another way to avoid this dilemma would be the construction of an effective physical barrier at our southern border. Oddly those who are most vocal about enforcement also oppose the wall.

The willful and continued failure to enforce some laws threatens all the law. That can have very bad consequences.

From what I have read recently Canadian border enforcement is quite rigorous. What is Canada's policy for the treatment of known illegal immigrants?

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@georgeob1,

You overlook the fact that we are violating both U.S. and international law by blocking these refugees from entering at Southern ports of entry so they can claim asylum in our country.
https://theintercept.com/2018/06/16/immigration-border-asylum-central-america/

Well, if as you assert, the"failure to enforce some laws threatens all the
law," we had better start obeying those international and U.S. laws we are currently violating.

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First, they are not all entering the country illegally they are presenting themselves at border crossings and attempting to apply for asylum. That is totally 100% legally arriving. The right wing nuts use their FOXNews talking points trying to argue this matter.

Second there is no moral justification that allows ripping children away from their parents bring them in concentration camps and then not being able to return the children to the parents who decide to go home or are granted asylum or are allowed to come in the country. Department of homeland security has “lost“ over a hundred children. (Or as Ann Coulter calls them “child actors.”

We have sunk to an all new low under this corrupt administration.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

The construction of an effective physical barrier at our southern border.

A multi billion dollar wall isn't going to do anything except be a money pit. Immigrants cross the border at check points for day work and don't go back. Or get smuggled in a truck 50-100 at a time.

Most of the border is privately held land owned by American citizens and the rest is part of the National Park system. Sure, Eminent Domain can apply but who is actually going to be patrolling 1500 miles? Will you sign up?

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@jcboy,

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That is totally 100% legally arriving.

Then let them stay in detention until it is proved valid. Cruz says it can be done in 14 days.

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“While these cases are pending, families should stay together. Children belong with their mothers and fathers,” he said. “Once their cases have been adjudicated – under my legislation, in no longer than 14 days – those who meet the legal standard should be granted asylum and those who don’t should be immediately returned to their home country.”

Shouldn't Democrats vote for that? They won't, why?
http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-just-proposed-a-great-solution-to-the-child-separation-chaos-at-the-border/

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@coldjoint,

Demographics don't make people bad.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

And you are agreeing with a racial stereotype. "

Quoting a demographic analysis doesn't mean I agree with anything.

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@ehBeth,

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Demographics don't make people bad.

And stereotypes don't?

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Trump's cruel separation policy has succeeded in solidifying Democratic support for legislation that will prevent children from being removed from their parents without sufficient reason.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/392801-manchin-becomes-final-democrat-to-back-bill-preventing-separation

At least he's helping to unite the Democrats. 😁

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Your statements confirm that Trump is intentionally bullying and abusing these refugees, including young children, in order to gain political leverage to force the Democrats to agree to finance "the wall". The wall he continually assured everyone he'd get Mexico to pay for, and a wall that most Americans don't want to pay for either.

If you want to pass legislation in America, you need to compromise with the President.

That's just the way it works.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

A multi billion dollar wall isn't going to do anything except be a money pit.

Well, if you are willing to perpetuate the current policy rather than compromise with the President on border reform, so be it I guess.

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@firefly,

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At least he's helping to unite the Democrats.

Uniting the people of a party that does not even like Americans. Not much to get excited about.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Trump's cruel separation policy has succeeded in solidifying Democratic support for legislation that will prevent children from being removed from their parents without sufficient reason.

Now all we need to do is get some Democratic willingness to compromise with the President on border reform, and then the legislation will actually pass and be signed into law.

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What Donald Trump has noticed is that NOT having the a Southern wall is costing us fifteen or twenty times as much as building one would.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

If you want to pass legislation in America, you need to compromise with the President.That's just the way it works.

Um, no it isn't. A 2/3's margin of a vote from both House and Senate overriding a presidential veto can set a law into place. Your civics lesson for the day...

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I'm willing to bet that next year, unlike this year and every year before it, going 8-10 years back, won't see thousands of aliens intent on breaking U.S. law march thousands of miles in a massive "caravan," and crash the border, eh?

Any takers?

Trump aint no chump.

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@coldjoint,

They are who they are. They can choose to be stereotypes or not. That is their choice.

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