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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Frugal1
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 01:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
My charges against Trump is common knowledge in the internet world.

The internet is bigger than the CNN & A2K web pages you visit, and your FAKE NEWS charges are fully discredited on AlGores internet.
MontereyJack
 
  4  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 02:26 pm
@Frugal1,
Nonsense.
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Frugal1
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 02:30 pm
Senate votes 81-17 for a waiver that will allow James Mattis to serve as Secretary of Defense.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1_0fbDXgAQxQh6.jpg:large
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 02:36 pm
@Frugal1,
Pinky should be out too, right?
Frugal1
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 02:48 pm
Mexican Official:
Immigrants Are Flocking To Chicago Before Trump’s Inauguration Because It’s A ‘Sanctuary City’


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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 02:55 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday wouldn't allow reporters to see piles of documents displayed at his press conference, which he and lawyers said detailed his plans to disentangle himself from his business.

"These papers are just some of the many documents I've signed turning over complete and total control to my sons," Trump said during his press conference, standing next to a table stacked with manila folders.


He also lied about showing his tax returns - which he has been claiming they are under audit for many, many months. Pathological liar.
He can show his unaudited tax returns. It would be illegal to falsify his tax returns.
blatham
 
  3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:28 pm
Quote:
Randy Weber ✔ @TXRandy14
The CNN reporter who was disruptive to the press briefing, & disrespectful to Trump-should be fired & prohibited from any press briefings.

Add in Spicer's threat to remove Acosta from the news briefing if he continued to petition Trump to answer his question (Trump refused to take his question because he was with CNN which had carried a piece on the recent dossier).

Many American's don't appreciate how their political system differs from, say, England or Canada as regards traditions on news peoples' interactions with the governmental leader. Here, in what is terms the "scrum", reporters grill politicians including the leader informally during the day in hallways, staircases, etc. These can often be very challenging exchanges (and here in Canada, let's note, conservative politicians like Stockwell Day and Brian Mulroney have been much more reluctant to follow this tradition than have Liberal leaders).

But for the most part, in the US, Presidents engage the press in organized and more formal briefings, such as Trump did yesterday or as Obama has done. You might remember the interaction Bush 2 had with an Irish TV reporter who challenged him in a manner to which he was not accustomed and he wasn't happy with the informal and very challenging procedure or attitude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vefD3WSiis

What makes this a rather odd difference is that in the US, these traditions actually make America rather more imperial than parliamentary systems. The leader is treated more like a King or Queen than are parliamentary leaders. There can be, and often is, a greater expectation of deference towards a US leader.

And a high level of deference is what Webber and Spicer are demanding. That is, an imperial level of deference. Which underlines my point on this oddness - because it is happening in a republic.

The danger, of course, is that authoritarian figures can demand levels of deference which are totally inappropriate in a democracy. And they can act punitively (as Trump and Spicer did and as Webber demands) as a strategy to avoid valid challenge and to bully the press into obedience.

Some here might begin thinking of Joe Wilson's "You lie!" comment at an Obama SOTU speech and the outrage it caused. But that's a different venue entirely. The SOTU is one of the most formal governmental traditions for any president and Congress. What Wilson did there was unprecedented and violated the traditions of that formal structure. Interactions with the media in a press conference or a scrum are quite different and for good reasons.



layman
 
  -1  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Heh, Trump says he will give all profits generated by foreign officials who stay at his newly built hotel close to the white house to the federal government.

Leave it to the cheese eaters to complain about this windfall to the government at the expense of Trump, eh?
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday wouldn't allow reporters to see piles of documents displayed at his press conference, which he and lawyers said detailed his plans to disentangle himself from his business.

That stack of papers was a prop. There's a very good chance that the contents were blank or were gathered up from the "to recycle" bin. The only significant aspect of the pile was that it was used as a prop. No substance, either in reality or in effect, just a facade - just like the staffers brought in to cheer Trump and make bad noises at reporters.
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:35 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

And a deference is what Webber and Spicer are demanding. That is, an imperial level of deference. Which underlines my point on this oddness - because it is happening in a republic.


Heh, more evidence of the creation of a fascist state by Trump, eh, Blathy?

The "deference" being demanded is to common courtesy and orderly (as opposed to disorderly and disruptive) behavior.

Many reporters, all wanting to ask questions, were there. One of CNN's reporters had already been called on and her question answered. Yet this childish buffoon wants to interfere with another reporter trying to ask a question.

The whole press corp should demand his suspension, if that's how he intends to act.
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layman
 
  -2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:38 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

That stack of papers was a prop. There's a very good chance that the contents were blank or were gathered up from the "to recycle" bin. The only significant aspect of the pile was that it was used as a prop. No substance, either in reality or in effect, just a facade - just like the staffers brought in to cheer Trump and make bad noises at reporters.


Geez, the utter lack of any restraint imposed by everyday scruples which you commies regularly display is utterly amazing.

And your sychophants eat this **** up, no doubt.
old europe
 
  5  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:45 pm
The incoming President of the United States of America, everyone:


http://i.imgur.com/JEb6H3O.jpg
layman
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 03:47 pm
@old europe,
No, he's not an "ad agency." He has demanded an exorbitant share of the profits. He's a "partner" now, not an ad agent.
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 04:03 pm
@old europe,
Yes. It really is difficult to imagine a worse individual in the WH than this guy.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 04:07 pm
@blatham,
A fraud won the WH. You know what they say about liars. They have to have a perfect memory. Does anybody believe Trump has a good memory?
https://www.google.com/amp/attn-google-amp.herokuapp.com/stories/14186/three-lies-trump-told-during-his-press-conference?client=safari
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 04:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I know.
Frugal1
 
  -3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 05:14 pm


Quote:
So øbama gave JOE a happy ending today.
This is a big ******* deal here, as they say.
Boortz
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farmerman
 
  4  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 05:49 pm
@blatham,
Their Penchants for prevarication is second only to their Alzheimer's economic memories.

I recall Finnsy ,Hawkee and several others (probably many of those here today just with different "handles"), all lectured us, when the US economy was in freefall when it was handed over from Bush/Vader to Obama /Biden as to how the best thing for our sinking economy was to just allow the "Big 3" automakers to be sold in corporate "yard sale". Good thing Obama didnt listen to these conservative "geniuses"
ossobucotemp
 
  1  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 06:13 pm
@revelette1,
But please stay and talk with us sometimes - I don't want you to disappear.
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 12 Jan, 2017 06:49 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Their Penchants for prevarication is second only to their Alzheimer's economic memories.

I guess the first dawning for me of the process of "fixed idea" came in my mid-teens when I was in discussion with others who'd been raised in a certain sort of theological framework. To maintain a consistent worldview, there were some key ideas that just could not be permitted to be shaken.

Looking at modern right wing American political thought, it's impossible to ignore this same process of mind when certain economic notions are engaged. And you point right at a key one. It is held axiomatically. And it is a very interesting phenomenon given that it was no long ago that Nixon said, "We're all Keynesians now".
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