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gungasnake
 
  -1  
Fri 25 May, 2018 06:19 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
This whole Trump Insurance Policy has Obama’s stench all over it


Somebody who didn't know better might think that being a communist, a muslim, a homosexual, a Malthusian greentard, and a stooge for he likes of George Soros and the Rothschilds would be pairwise mutually exclusive. Clearly nobody ever told Bork Obunga that.....
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gungasnake
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 06:29 am
Far as I can tell, one of the most major causes of WW-II may have simply been bad karma, too many people with too many reasons to hate each other. I don't see that kind of problem being settled by economic policies, and particularly not in the case of Israel and the "palestinians".

You could argue the question of whether the "palestinians" have any sort of a case back and forth all day and all night but the basic reality is that those people and Israel cannot go on living on top of each other, some sort of a major tragedy is going to occur sooner or later. The other basic reality is that Israel is an industrialized nation with nowhere else on Earth to go and which cannot simply relocate itself, while the "palestinians" could be packed up and put anywhere. Any reasonable plan for peace in the middle East has to involve the muslim world being forced to find some rational place to put the "palestinians".

You might ask why something like that hasn't happened years if not decades ago; this is answer:

http://www.middleeastpiece.com/arabrefugees_whystillhere.html

Quote:
The Arab League in 1952 instructed the member states not to grant Palestinian Arabs citizenship in their countries, allegedly so the Palestinian national aspirations do not become diluted and ultimately vanish. It is this reasoning we still hear today:

Quote:
A Saudi Arabian citizenship law passed in October 2004 allows "Expatriates of all nationalities are entitled to apply for Saudi citizenship", but "the naturalization law would not be applicable to Palestinians living in the Kingdom as the Arab League has instructed that Palestinians living in Arab countries should not be given citizenship to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland."18


In other words, arab states have agreed not to take "palestinians" in to avoid their being "spread thin all over the world". That's aside from grief which "palestinians" have caused in other arab countries of course...

But where have we heard that thing about a group of people being spread thin all over the world before? Oh, yeah, that's right:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/260862/m-project-franklin-delano-roosevelt-jews

Quote:
"As the Holocaust raged, the American president secretly asked his government to study the possible resettlement of remaining European refugees in Africa and South America. His goal: for Jews to be ‘spread thin all over the world."


So that sort of a solution is good enough for Jews but not good enough for "palestinians"???

I mean, you wouldn't have to spread them terribly thin, there are numerous places within the muslim world where you could put all of them.

Aside from any of that, it sort of bothers me to see anybody talking about "Palestine" as if were a real place since the claim amounts to a misuse of language. Palestine is in the same category of things as Shangra-La or Asagard.

http://www.al-rassooli.com/tiny-israel.html




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revelette1
 
  6  
Fri 25 May, 2018 06:53 am
Quote:
“Clapper has now admitted that there was Spying in my campaign. Large dollars were paid to the Spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look like one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history. SPYGATE – a terrible thing!”

— President Trump in a tweet, May 24, 2018

President Trump, in a continuing effort to discredit the criminal investigation into his campaign’s possible links with Russia entities, has now seized on “spygate.” This refers to the news that the FBI obtained information from an informant — Stefan Halper, an emeritus professor at the University of Cambridge — who met with at least three members of Trump’s campaign staff suspected of having links to Russia.

As an informant, Halper openly asked questions; a spy uses tradecraft to obtain information. So far, there has been nothing to indicate that there was a “spy” mandate as part of Halper’s assistance for the FBI, which apparently started after the agency opened a counterintelligence probe. But that has not stopped Trump from trying to fan the flames with often inaccurate information.

Regarding the tweet above, Trump claims that former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. admitted to the campaign spying, when in fact Clapper said the opposite.

Asked whether the FBI spied on the campaign, Clapper told “The View” on May 22: “No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don’t particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand, were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence, which is what they do.”

In an interview on “PBS NewsHour” on May 23, Clapper said: “Well, I think he’s kind of distorted what I was trying to say, which was — actually took aversion to the term spy, which I don’t like anyway, but particularly it’s inappropriate in this context. … The intent, though, is the important thing, wasn’t to spy on the campaign, but rather to determine what the Russians were up to.”

While Trump claims “large dollars” were paid to Halper, it’s unclear what he received for his help on the counterintelligence probe. Halper was paid a little over $1 million for separate work for the Defense Department’s Office of Net Assessment between 2012 and 2017 — and about 40 percent of the money was paid before Trump entered the presidential race. But no dollar figures for his assistance in the Russia probe have been reported.

This latest claim is just part of a fog machine that the president has deployed for months against the probe, using hyperbolic claims of “worse than Watergate,” “McCarthyism” and, of course, “witch hunt.” Most have failed to gain long-term traction, and “spygate” may face the same fate.

Democratic leaders, after a closed-door briefing from the FBI on the informant, said they were shown no evidence that supported Trump’s claim of spying.

Here is a guide to the various “scandals” about the probe that Trump has promoted since he became president — and what happened to them. For context, we will include the actions taken by federal investigators.

Feb. 13, 2017: Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, is forced to resign after misleading officials about his conversations with the Russian ambassador.

The New York Times had reported on Jan. 20, 2017, that investigators were examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of the probe into possible links between Russian officials and associates of Trump. In print, the headline was “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides.”

Then, on March 4, after sketchy reports circulated that purported to expand on the surveillance, Trump tweeted allegations:

He provided no evidence for these assertions, though he told Tucker Carlson on March 15: “We will be submitting things before the committee very soon that has not been submitted as of yet.” Nothing was ever submitted, and then-FBI director James B. Comey and the Justice Department ultimately said the president’s claim was false.

On Sept. 1, the Justice Department said in a court filing that the FBI and the National Security Division confirmed that they had no record that would support Trump’s tweets: “Both FBI and NSD confirm that they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets. FBI again confirmed that they do not have any such records by consulting with personnel knowledgeable about Director Comey’s statements and the surveillance activities of the FBI.”

May 9, 2017:Trump fires Comey as FBI director.

May 17, 2017:Former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III is appointed special prosecutor and takes charges of the Russia investigation.

Trump began to tout an argument being made by one of his chief defenders, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), chairman of the Intelligence Committee — the so-called unmasking of U.S. citizens who were incidentally picked up in surveillance of foreign targets that was a potential Obama-era scandal.

“The intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition,” Nunes told reporters March 23.

Trump openly mused that Susan E. Rice, President Barack Obama’s national security adviser, was in big trouble and may have committed a crime. “I think it’s truly one of the big stories of our time,” he told the New York Times on April 5.

But the story did not have legs and faded from sight. Numerous former national security officials told The Fact Checker that Rice, as national security adviser, had every right to request the identities of U.S. citizens who were incidentally recorded or referenced in surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency.

It turned out that Rice had unmasked the identities of senior Trump officials to understand why the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates was in New York. Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan had arrived for meetings with Trump aides, but the UAE did not provide the customary notice about his trip to the Obama administration. Republicans on the committee decided she did nothing illegal.

July 26: The FBI raids former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s house.

July 28: The FBI arrests former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos at Dulles Airport.

Trump has repeatedly tried to turn the tables by claiming that the Democrats, not his campaign, colluded with Russia. The allegation never made much sense because the Democrats were the victims of hacking operations that transferred emails and other information to WikiLeaks through apparent Russian connections.

But that has not stopped the president and his allies from throwing all sorts of spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. Hillary Clinton’s alleged role in the sale of a uranium enterprise to a Russian company was a campaign allegation, but Trump repeatedly raised it again as the Mueller investigation continued.

The president gained some traction for his case when it was revealed that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee were the mysterious Democratic donors who paid a research firm, Fusion GPS, to collect information on Trump’s Russia ties. That money led to an assignment for retired British spy Christopher Steele, who assembled the “dossier,” a collection of 17 memos based on interviews Steele had with unidentified Russian sources.

The memos, among other things, allege that the Russian government had been seeking to split the Western alliance by cultivating and supporting Trump and also gathering compromising information — “kompromat” — on him in an effort to blackmail him. The memos, among other allegations, claim that the Russian government fed the Trump campaign “valuable intelligence” on Clinton. The dossier was eventually circulated within the FBI, and a salacious portion of it was discussed by Comey in his first briefing for Trump.

The White House began to argue that because Steele was getting information from Russian officials in part with funds provided by the Clinton campaign, the Russians were helping Clinton. Officials also suggested that the whole investigation was tainted because it started with the dossier. But that was undercut by the revelation that the probe actually started because of a report from an Australian diplomat that Papadopoulos appeared to know about the Russian hacking before WikiLeaks began releasing details.

Oct. 5:Papadopoulos signs an agreement pleading guilty to lying to FBI agents about his interactions with Russians. He becomes a cooperating witness.

Oct. 30:Manafort and former Trump deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates are charged in a 12-count indictment; Papadopoulos’ plea agreement is released.

Nov. 30:Flynn pleads guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his conversations with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn has yet to be sentenced. He is cooperating with investigators.

Feb. 2, 2018:Richard Pinedo enters a deal agreeing to plead to identity fraud. He created accounts for unidentified offshore users connected with the Russia investigation. He is cooperating with investigators. 

The release of texts by two FBI agents who were lovers — Peter Strzok and Lisa Page — and a four-page report released by House Republicans, known as the Nunes memo, spurred Trump to try to build a narrative that the FBI was politically biased against him.

The Nunes memo suggested that a group of politically biased law enforcement officials set out to sabotage Trump, with the Steele dossier as a key piece of evidence. The memo focused on the FBI application for a wiretap order that targeted Carter Page, a former Trump adviser, after he had left the campaign. The classified memo, which Trump ordered released, claimed that law enforcement officials had abused their powers by failing to make clear that one of the pieces of evidence was the dossier; they claimed it was tainted by political bias because of its Democratic origins.

Trump celebrated the release on Twitter.

But the memo also confirmed that the investigation of the Trump campaign started with Papadopoulos, not the Steele dossier. The impact of the memo further faded with the FBI’s strong statement that it contained “material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy,” as well as the release of a Democratic memo that sharply disputed the conclusions of the Nunes memo.

Meanwhile, the texts between Strzok and Page led to Strzok’s removal from the Mueller probe because they indicated an anti-Trump bias. After Trump was elected, Page sent a text to Strzok, saying: “Are you even going to give out your calendars? Seems kind of depressing. Maybe it should just be the first meeting of the secret society.” That spurred speculation among trump allies about possible anti-Trump meetings, but eventually it was concluded to be a joke.

Another text from Page, on Sept. 2, 2016, spurred even more frenzy, this time that the FBI was briefing Obama on the Clinton email investigation. (Strzok was a key player on that probe, too.) Page wrote: “potus wants to know everything we are doing.”

But it turned out the reference was to briefings on the Russia investigation, not the Clinton investigation.

Feb. 16:The Department of Justice charges 13 people and three companies — Internet Research Agency LLC, Concord Management and Consulting LLC, Concord Catering — with a long-running scheme to criminally interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Feb. 20:Alex van der Zwaan pleads guilty to making false statements to the FBI. He had worked with Gates and Manafort when they served as political consultants in Ukraine. 

Feb. 22:New charges are added for Manafort and Gates, including 18 counts of financial crimes.

Feb. 23:Gates pleads guilty to two charges: conspiring to defraud the U.S. regarding the millions he and Manafort made working for Ukraine and lying to the FBI. Gates is now a cooperating witness.

Trump has repeatedly raised questions about conflicts of interest and bias.

Eleven members of Mueller’s team have made political donations to Democrats, compared with five with no record of such donations. Five of the 16 known members contributed to Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

The Department of Justice is legally barred from discriminating against career appointees based on political affiliation, so Mueller, a longtime Republican, is not permitted to ask about political affiliation. Mueller took action against Strzok when texts expressing anti-Trump sentiments were discovered. But he can’t inquire about political leanings before hiring.

In any case, Mueller has remained absolutely silent during the probe, never responding to any of Trump’s attacks or complaints. For a president who loves to engage in verbal combat, that must be the most frustrating thing of all.

Current (known) tally: Mueller has indicted or obtained guilty pleas from 19 people and three companies, including four former Trump advisers. Three former Trump aides have pleaded guilty.


WP
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blatham
 
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Fri 25 May, 2018 07:39 am
@glitterbag,
Neither Pence nor Trump are available for self-parody. Neither have the confidence, humility or the emotional resiliency to permit such a presentation of self. Pence's presentation of self is so tightly and thinly drawn and so coldly schematized that we're made frightened of being anywhere near him in case something goes wrong. His inner self looks like a foreskin stretched over a tray of crucifix and AK47-shaped ice cubes.

And Trump, of course, apprehends parody of himself from anyone as a nuclear-level threat. Because, as Jay Rosen observes, Trump's "model" of leadership is the humiliation of others.
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blatham
 
  4  
Fri 25 May, 2018 08:33 am
From Michael Gerson
Quote:
Rather than a politician trying to muddy the waters, Trump seems more like a strongman probing the limits of democracy. He seems less like Clinton and more like Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, seeking to dismantle institutional checks on his authority. “This is what it looks like,” Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said, “when you stress-test all of the institutions that undergird our constitutional democracy at the same time.”

It's not a big surprise that someone like Trump would appear on the scene. More surprising (even terrifying) is the readiness of so many to celebrate his arrival. Why this has happened has occupied the minds of most of us and many others as well. I think part of the answer lies in a propensity of Trump supporters to experience a tyrant as agreeably simple in contrast with how they experience and think about functioning, democratic self-government which is very complicated and demanding.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 25 May, 2018 09:16 am
@blatham,
Quote:
I think part of the answer lies in a propensity of Trump supporters to experience a tyrant as agreeably simple in contrast with how they experience and think about functioning, democratic self-government which is very complicated and demanding.

You think wrong. Trump supporters do not think like you think, or how you think they do. And supporting Trump is supporting democracy, after all he was elected in this system you are trying so desperately to change making up the rules as you go. You would "think" that could not be any plainer.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:14 am
Quote:
This Clapper et al line that purpose of spy was to monitor Russians, not campaign, is a joke. Did FBi task a spy to the Clinton campaign too? How about we insert one this year in every midterm campaign—just in case? Anything to watch those Russians, right?

Guess Rush is not the only one posing this question.

Quote:

Where was the spy for the Clinton campaign? We’ve seen the news that Russians were trying to infiltrate our 2016 election on both sides, so if they really were trying to protect Trump from the Russians, why weren’t they offering that same protection to Hillary?

Anyone have an answer?
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/05/25/what-a-joke-kimberley-strassel-lights-clapper-the-eff-up-over-claim-deep-state-was-spying-on-russia-not-trump/
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firefly
 
  6  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:23 am
From today's NY Times, a sickening compendium, and reminder, of the ways in which Trump has degraded the dignity and decency of the Presidency:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/25/opinion/editorials/Donald-Trumps-Guide-To-Presidential-Etiquette.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:33 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

From Michael Gerson
Quote:
Rather than a politician trying to muddy the waters, Trump seems more like a strongman probing the limits of democracy. He seems less like Clinton and more like Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, seeking to dismantle institutional checks on his authority. “This is what it looks like,” Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said, “when you stress-test all of the institutions that undergird our constitutional democracy at the same time.”

It's not a big surprise that someone like Trump would appear on the scene. More surprising (even terrifying) is the readiness of so many to celebrate his arrival. Why this has happened has occupied the minds of most of us and many others as well. I think part of the answer lies in a propensity of Trump supporters to experience a tyrant as agreeably simple in contrast with how they experience and think about functioning, democratic self-government which is very complicated and demanding.


What is sadly funny is that anyone thinks they can make the case that Trump is a tyrant or strongman. They are among the most absurd claims I have ever seen and I would so love for someone to try and prove them.

What is terrifying is that a large number of Americans (fed by one or two leftie Canadians JV propogandists) are so willing to embrace this entirely partisan bullshit; are more than happy to abandon common sense, and, in the case of liberals, the constitutional distrust of government and the Establishment that was the basis of the formation of their political sense.

When did Government become the Good Guy?

When Obama was elected? It sure seems so.

When did the CIA and FBI become the unquestionable Good Guys?

When Trump was elected? It sure seems so.

If you truly believe that Trump is a tyrant or strongman then guess what? You've joined the same club of paranoid idiots who believed Obama was a Muslim who put his religion over his office, or a commie agent working to bring America down.

What's more, if you do believe these things then get off your fat asses; stop pummeling your keyboards and take to the streets.

But of course none of you ever will...even if your worst fears are realized.



Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:46 am
An Israeli private intelligence firm spied on the Palestinian-American activist and Women’s March co-chair Linda Sarsour and her family in an apparent attempt to collect damaging information, according to a report by Haaretz.

Israel Cyber Shield (ICS), supplied information to a rightwing pro-Israel group associated with American billionaire and Donald Trump backer Sheldon Adelson, the Israeli newspaper reported.

Haaretz: Spying on Linda Sarsour: Israeli Firm Compiled BDS Dossier for Adelson-funded U.S. Group Battling Her Campus Appearances
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:46 am
@firefly,
Quote:
From today's NY Times, a sickening.....


bias rag that passes for a newspaper.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
attempt to collect damaging information,

It is already collected. She supports Sharia law and is an avowed Jew hater.
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farmerman
 
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Fri 25 May, 2018 10:50 am
@coldjoint,
I wonder where I can buy one of those commemorative coins that Plump had struck. Itll be collectible like the
Dewey Wins" headline
coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 10:51 am
@farmerman,
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I wonder where I can buy one of those commemorative coins

Try Google.
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revelette1
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 12:59 pm
@farmerman,
It might be worth as much as KY Coal Miners Tokens, you think?

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/202092715276_/Black-Diamond-Coal-Drakesboro-KY-25%C2%A2-Coal-Scrip.jpg
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Fri 25 May, 2018 02:44 pm
Israel used their F-35s in combat.
http://images.haarets.co.il/image/upload/v1527107658/1.6114463.2665712464.PNG
http://twitter.com/AAhronheim/status/999390950484070401
http://twitter.com/ndvori/status/999349796283584512
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Real Music
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 05:10 pm
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d0/d1/69/d0d169f2c13577423e916fb6707e0056--too-funny-funny-****.jpg
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Real Music
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 05:16 pm
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KA04M6d3se0/WFTmlHUMMwI/AAAAAAACcHs/U4AiGJe4C3g4aWWiDlktG-Ur8Qvg2N3ewCLcB/s1600/560ba054b16a8005bef92d9816c4d6bf.jpg
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Builder
 
  -1  
Fri 25 May, 2018 05:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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But of course none of you ever will...even if your worst fears are realized.


More pertinent to today's sound-byte-loving populace, is that when there's a protest against the status quo, it's either ignored completely, or co-opted by infiltration. The budget for disinfo must be truly massive.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 25 May, 2018 05:17 pm
http://www.eenteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/remote/files-eenteresting-com/566079194.jpg
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