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ehBeth
 
  2  
Sat 17 Mar, 2018 06:34 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
He said that a professor getting busted by a cop while trying to enter his own home was "stupid". It was one of those dumb things that could have been prevented. He apologized quickly for his choice of words.


I thought less of him for that apology.
ehBeth
 
  5  
Sat 17 Mar, 2018 06:35 pm
@realjohnboy,
The whole thing right now seems to be a project to get rid of the Keebler Elf so someone else can fire Rosenstein so that someone else can fire Mueller.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Mar, 2018 07:03 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
I thought less of him for that apology.


If Obama was God he would still be president. How did so many manage to fall off the deep end?
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 17 Mar, 2018 07:32 pm
Quote:
Uh Oh. Are James Comey and Andrew McCabe Calling Each Other Liars?

Quote:
Jerry Dunleavy @JerryDunleavy

So I did some digging.

On the left is Comey’s testimony in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on 5/3/17.

On the right is McCabe’s statement after being fired on 3/16/18.

The discrepancy here ***seems*** to indicate that, at the very least, either Comey or McCabe is lying.
3:18 PM - Mar 17, 2018 · Washington, DC


See link for testimony.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/03/17/uh-oh.-james-comey-andrew-mccabe-calling-liars/
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blatham
 
  4  
Sat 17 Mar, 2018 10:37 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYil8xsUQAA9m_i.jpg
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:09 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
Impeachment is a political action, not a legal fact. Whatever makes the House come to the conclusion that an impeachable act occur, then it can impeach. Doesn't even have to be a felony, just a misdemeanor. Then the Senate convicts.

The Republicans are not about to convict Trump when he hasn't even done anything wrong.

Especially after the Democrats said that it was OK for Bill Clinton to commit all sorts of felonies in the White House.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I suppose, Mueller wil get fired soonish.

I certainly hope so.

I used to argue against firing, because Congress would respond by passing legislation rehiring him and tie that to other legislation that Trump would rather not veto.

But now I think that Trump should just sign the law and challenge it in court. The courts will decisively strike down anything that tries to prevent Trump from firing executive officials.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:11 am
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
A key man here is Rosenstein. He will have to fire Mueller. I don't think he will do that, so it will be up to Sessions to fire Rosenstein. But Sessions can't do that because he recused himself (unless their is some other trumped up charge). So it seems to me that Trump needs to fire Sessions to get rid of Rosenstein and Mueller.
Is that the way others here see it?

I don't see it that way at all.

Trump has absolute power to fire Mueller directly.

Trump also has the power to issue an executive order dissolving the entire Office of the Special Council.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:13 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
You've misconstrued the Martin comment entirely.

Not at all. Obama really did say that someone who got killed in the process of violently assaulting a neighborhood watch captain could have been his son.


hightor wrote:
The fact is that male black teens off their own turf are pretty regularly hassled by people in authority.

What does that have to do with Trayvon violently assaulting a neighborhood watch captain?


hightor wrote:
For the same reasons that black professors get hassled when they're spotted in white neighborhoods at night.

He actually did appear to be breaking into a home.

Would you prefer the police to not respond when it appears that someone is breaking into your home?


hightor wrote:
If you want to criticize the previous president and/or his administration you should try to develop arguments which don't sound like they originated around a high school lunch table.

His arguments were perfectly fine. Factual and to the point.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:39 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
I admire and respect modern Republicans so very much
Quote:
A candidate for Maine's state legislature has quit the race after being condemned by both Democrats and Republicans for calling a survivor of a mass shooting at a Florida high a "skinhead lesbian."

Leslie Gibson described his decision to end his campaign for a seat in the Maine House of Representatives as "the best thing for everybody."

Just days after the massacre last month in Parkland Florida, Gibson -- a life-long member the National Rifle Association (NRA) -- took to Twitter to post cruel and derisive comments about Emma Gonzalez, a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
TP

Her sexual orientation and hairstyle don't matter.

Should have called her a whiny brat who wants to violate civil rights for no reason. That would be factual and fair criticism.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:40 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
I thought less of him for that apology.

Why?

It was wrong of him to condemn the police for acting when it appeared that someone was breaking into a home.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:43 am
@hightor,
Quote:
If you want to criticize the previous president and/or his administration you should try to develop arguments which don't sound like they originated around a high school lunch table.


Why would that bother you? Most people on here trust high school kids to make our gun laws.
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hightor
 
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Sun 18 Mar, 2018 02:55 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Most people on here trust high school kids to make our gun laws.

Except that the current concern with gun violence is the result of a history of government inaction on the problem. The students aren't "making gun laws", they're protesting the NRA and the politicians controlled by the NRA and advocating restrictions which have been talked about for decades.
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 03:55 am
@ehBeth,
Reading over this post of mine I see that it could be ambiguous.
Quote:
He said that a professor getting busted by a cop while trying to enter his own home was "stupid". It was one of those dumb things that could have been prevented. He apologized quickly for his choice of words.


Should read like this:

The arrest of Prof. Gates was one of those dumb things that could have been prevented.

Here's Obama's statement:
Quote:
On July 22, President Barack Obama said about the incident, "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately." Law enforcement organizations and members objected to Obama's comments and criticized his handling of the issue. In the aftermath, Obama stated that he regretted his comments and hoped that the situation could become a "teachable moment".

Henry Lois Gates arrest controversy
Quote:
An independent panel with experts from across the nation published a report on June 30, 2010, which states that "Sergeant Crowley and Professor Gates each missed opportunities to 'ratchet down' the situation and end it peacefully" and share responsibility for the controversial July 16 arrest. Crowley could have better explained how uncertain and potentially dangerous it is to respond to a serious crime-in-progress call and why this can result in a seemingly rude tone. Gates could have tried to understand Crowley's view of the situation and could have spoken respectfully to Crowley. The report cites research that shows people's feelings about a police encounter depend significantly on whether they feel the officer displays respect and courtesy.

ibid





blatham
 
  4  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 04:49 am
Today's edition of Voices From The Right
Quote:
Nicolle Wallace
‏Verified account
@NicolleDWallace
To all my republican friends who think they can sit out the Trump era and hope for great SCOTUS picks, your time is up. Trump is a disgrace who is debasing the office. You whisper it off the record and you email me your disgust. Time to stand up+speak out
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 04:55 am
@ehBeth,
"Fabulous" is a delicious word choice.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 06:00 am
@blatham,
Quote:
In the Trump era, Americans may be more polarized now than ever. But while Americans have always known they don't all share the same politics, more of them are now questioning whether their political opponents even share their same values.

According to the most recent Pew Research Center data, among those who approve of the job that Donald Trump is doing as president, 51 percent say that people who feel differently about the president probably do not share many of their other values and goals.

And among those who disapprove of Trump’s job performance, 56 percent say that people who approve of the president probably do not share their other values and goals.
WaPo

Pew Research Center: Disagreements about Trump widely seen as reflecting divides over ‘other values and goals’
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https://i.imgur.com/sYZKK2sl.jpg


 

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