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@ehBeth,

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This is why a good hunter wouldn't want/use a weapon like an AR-15.

Well:

“One rifle (AR-15) can be easily converted in to several different variants that will allow you to choose the right caliber for your hunt,” Grimsley said. “Going coyote hunting on Monday, use your .223/5.56 upper. Going whitetail hunting Tuesday, switch to the .300 Blackout. Going Elk hunting on Wednesday, change your upper again to a 6.5 Grendel. All of those upper receivers can be used with the same type of lower which gives greater flexibility for the hunter and the AR platform.”

http://www.guns.com/2017/11/17/why-hunters-are-trading-in-traditional-hunting-rifles-for-the-ar-15/

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@oralloy,

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I am addressing your call to ban hunting rifles every time you bring it up.

Where did I call for "banning hunting rifles?"

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

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I doubt 99% of "military-styled weapon" owners own them for home protection. A pistol or shotgun serves that purpose much better.

Good. Then we can do away with the "self-defense" excuse.

Excuse? Shouldn't need an excuse to own a fire arm. Merely wanting one should be more than ample reason. The Federal Govt has no place in regulating firearms per the US constitution.

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

NRA members like to fantasize a lot. "Oh, the sky is falling the sky is falling!"

No fantasy on my part. He really is dreaming about making other people's choices for them.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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AR-15. They are also used for hunting, just like any other rifle.
I'd imagine about as often as dynamite is used for fishing.

Comments like that make it appear as though you know nothing about hunting or fishing.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

This is why a good hunter wouldn't want/use a weapon like an AR-15. Major internal damage and big exit wound? I was taught those were to be avoided when hunting. A clean shot, as little internal damage as possible as it can spoil the meat.

So no one who hunts with a rifle is a good hunter?

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@hightor,

So do you support a ban on handguns, or not?

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

Where did I call for "banning hunting rifles?"

When you started your crusade against the devastating impact of rifle wounds.

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@Glennn,

Glennn wrote:

So you imagine that people fish with dynamite as often as people hunt with AR-15 rifles? Really?

They're liberals. They make up lies to justify violating people's rights.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

And what exactly is your understanding of serfdom?

You can't remember the last time I explained this to you?

Free people are allowed to carry guns. They also can buy what they want.

Serfs have to do what their lords tell them to do.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Comments like that make it appear as though you know nothing about hunting or fishing.

He doesn't. He only knows that he hates freedom and likes to lie.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

This is why a good hunter wouldn't want/use a weapon like an AR-15. Major internal damage and big exit wound? I was taught those were to be avoided when hunting. A clean shot, as little internal damage as possible as it can spoil the meat.

That doesn't make any sense. An AR-15 shoots a relatively small and weak bullet compared to most hunting rifles.

https://1source.basspro.com/images/article_images/Don_Sangster/Rifle_Ammo/RifleAmmoBuyingGuide_chart.jpg

Maybe this picture will help? AR-15 shoots the .223 remington

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

You can't remember the last time I explained this to you?

You're qualifications in ancient and medieval European history are exactly .... what again?

oralloy wrote:

Serfs have to do what their lords tell them to do.

Fine. (Actually not, because even simplified that's not the fact.)
And where in Europe are serfs under the rule of lords? (And that's not a definition of serfdom - serfdom and slavery are something different.)

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

And where in Europe are serfs under the rule of lords?

Everywhere. You aren't allowed to have a gun unless you can convince your lord that you "need" it.

Maybe not in Switzerland though.

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@Glennn,

def not accepted in our hunting circles

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@oralloy,

Do you hunt game?

Then you know the proper answer.

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

That doesn't make any sense. An AR-15 shoots a relatively small and weak bullet compared to most hunting rifles.

that's why you want a gun that can do a good, clean kill

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

Then you know the proper answer.

The proper answer is that people who hunt with rifles are indeed good hunters, despite the devastating wounds that rifles cause.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Everywhere. You aren't allowed to have a gun unless you can convince your lord that you "need" it.

Maybe not in Switzerland though.

We don't have "lords" here (nobility was abolished in 1918 in Germany.
But even before, "lords" didn't have such powers.

I get a gun, when I want it and when it's according to the laws.
Switzerland has similar laws regarding guns to any other EU_country. (See for instance >here<
[Actually, in Switzerland the removal of personal feudal rights and the abolition of serfdom, which still existed in some parts of Switzerland, was achieved only in May 1798 (under Napoleon).]

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

that's why you want a gun that can do a good, clean kill

AR type rifles can do good clean kills just as much as any other hunting rifle. All you have to do is chamber a round appropriate for the game being hunted.

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