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camlok
 
  -1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 10:06 am
@Lash,
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Why don’t people go to jail and responsible entities suffer crushing penalties for neglecting to follow gun sale laws???? Nothing happens. Why doesn’t each individual who dropped Cruz lose their job and pay penalties??? I don’t understand.


This is disingenuous, Lash. You do understand. Reagan's administration had more felons than you could shake a stick at. Nobody in any war criminal US administration is ever punished, has ever been punished for war crimes and terrorism that is the equal of the Nazis.

The US throws out a commission to do an "investigation" but it's always just a silly dog and pony show, with nothing ever really done. The job of these commissions is to lull USians into a state of somnolence.

Such was the 911 Commission.

Quote:
For example, take the most popular conspiracy theory of recent times—the official account for the crimes of 9/11.

This theory was produced by mythologist Philip Zelikow, who, before the investigation began, created an outline that was kept secret from his own Commission staff. Zelikow’s outline determined the outcome of the investigation before any facts were examined. Moreover, the 9/11 Commission claimed sixty-three times in its report that it could find “no evidence” related to important aspects of the crimes. Evidence that the Commission did rely on, as a basis for its report, was later found to be false. Similarly, the evidence collected and held secret by World Trade Center investigating agency NIST was later found to contradict the agency’s conclusions. Much of that evidence is still being held secret including the computer model data that NIST was forced to substitute for physical testing that contradicted its conclusions.

https://digwithin.net/2018/02/11/the-problem-with-conspiracy-theories/


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We don't care.


You've got that right. Supposedly sane adults who will ignore total impossibilities because facing those realities is too difficult. Deep cognitive dissonance.
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revelette1
 
  4  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 10:28 am
@Lash,
The following is a link where Trump appears to be backing away from the idea of raising the age limit on assault weapons.

Personally I think after hemming and hawing now the NRA has spoken to the issue, he'll find a way to have his cake and eat it too on the idea of banning bump stocks. He'll blame it on not finding a lawful way to do it unless congress does it through legislation.

In the end, he will support no more and no less than what the NRA supports.

CNN
Lash
 
  1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 10:52 am
@revelette1,
We’ll see.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 11:05 am
@revelette1,
Trump country is gun country
Quote:
The National Rifle Association spent $31 million on the 2016 presidential election, $11.4 million in support of Donald Trump and $19.8 million in opposition to Hillary Clinton. It was money well-spent, it seems. Trump’s repeatedly demonstrated loyalty to the NRA’s agenda since being elected and even his recent protestations about new constraints on gun sales have been tempered with assurances that NRA leaders are good, patriotic people.
[...]
This is essential. Red America is gun country. More to the point, Trump country is gun country.
[...]
Trump country is gun country because rural America is gun country, and rural America is Trump country.

This suggests that the NRA probably didn’t drive gun owners to support Trump in any broad sense; those voters were already there. To some extent they, like others, capitalized on Trump’s appeal to working-class whites across the country. It was more a symbiotic relationship than is often presented, since Trump was a Republican nominee who held real appeal to rural voters.

There’s a deeper implication here. Trump’s willingness to consider new gun regulations might, if Congress were to agree with him, force a confrontation between the NRA and the president. If the NRA brought gun owners to Trump, they can pressure those gun owners to keep Trump from acting. If the NRA was largely following rural America’s lead in 2016, though, its political position is much more precarious.



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BillW
 
  2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 11:22 am
All this gun crap from the RightWingers is so funny. Al of the guns will be taken away after the Russian takeover. I guess they are hoping they will be in charge of the gulags and get state issued guns. Guess what, you won't be able to take them home!
camlok
 
  1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 12:12 pm
@BillW,
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Al of the guns will be taken away after the Russian takeover. I guess they are hoping they will be in charge of the gulags and get state issued guns.


You are propaganda central, aren't you, Bill? Can you say myriad worldwide USA black hole torture chambers? Can you say Guantanamo Bay torture facility?

Can you say innocents held and tortured by the USA for years with no evidence whatsoever?

Can you appreciate the vicious war crimes the US has committed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria?

All based on the USA 9/11 false flag operation, which you open minded, free thinking people won't even address.

All this crap from people pretending they embrace the principles of free, open democratic societies.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:08 pm
@Olivier5,
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and Trump were all kids. How did their potential work out for you?

You should reign in your emotions if you expect anyone to listen to you.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:10 pm
@Olivier5,
What's to defend?

Was any NRA official or spokesperson in the school building killing students?

Was Cruz even a member of the NRA?

I'm not a member of the NRA, but I just might join given this hysteria.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:12 pm
@roger,
Exactly

Like so many others in this debate, he's sanctimoniously posturing.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:14 pm
@hightor,
No you haven't.

Failing to offer a solution marginalizes your contribution. Anyone can bitch.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:16 pm
@Olivier5,
Good Lord but aren't you the ultra-emotional Gaul?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:38 pm
@Lash,
It's simple:

Clearly, numerous agencies of the government failed these kids. Only an utter idiot or ideologue would argue otherwise.

If you believe that government is the answer to all of our problems you have to find someone else to blame.

The NRA ignored scores of warnings about this kid. Don't you know?

The NRA spokesperson hid behind his car rather than confront the shooter. Don't you know?

The NRA convinced the asshole Broward County Sherrif to reduce public schools arrests. Don't you know?
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camlok
 
  1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:46 pm
@blatham,
@BillW,
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the Holocaust deniers
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We've had our share of these folks up here in Canada and I expect that's the case in most or all countries.


They're as bad and as totally wrong as USGOCT supporters, aren't they, Bernie? Peas in a pod denying reality.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 01:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Good Lord but aren't you the ultra-emotional Gaul?

What's your problem with emotions, exactly?
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:01 pm
From our Very Stable Genius photo file

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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:10 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Was any NRA official or spokesperson in the school building killing students?
We confess there was no NRA official shooting those kids.

Also, when smokers die of lung cancer, no tobacco executives are in the room.
Further, when Ford discovered that a high percentage of Ford Pinto's gas tanks would explode after a rear-end accident (and decided not to tell anyone about it because recalls would be more expensive that settling with the families of the occupants who now looked like strips of bacon) there was not a single Ford exec or lawyer present and tossing in a match.
revelette1
 
  4  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:33 pm
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Washington (CNN) -- US Cyber Command chief Adm. Mike Rogers told lawmakers on Tuesday that he has not been granted the authority by President Donald Trump to disrupt Russian election hacking operations where they originate.

Asked by Democratic Sen. Jack Reed if he has been directed by the President, through the defense secretary, to confront Russian cyber operators at the source, Rogers said "no I have not" but noted that he has tried to work within the authority he maintains as a commander.

While he did not agree with Reed's characterization that the US has been "sitting back and waiting," Rogers admitted that it is fair to say that "we have not opted to engage in some of the same behaviors we are seeing" with regards to Russia.

"It has not changed the calculus or the behavior on behalf of the Russians," Rogers said about the US response to Russia's cyber threat to date.
"They have not paid a price that is sufficient to change their behavior," he added.

Reed, D-Rhode Island, also asked FBI Director Christopher Wray, earlier this month whether the efforts to counter Russia's election activities in 2018 had been directed by Trump.

"Not as specifically directed by the President," Wray responded during a hearing at the Senate Intelligence Committee.

On Tuesday, Rogers reiterated that he still views Moscow as a threat to the 2018 elections, a stance that is consistent with what he and other top national security officials told the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month.

"We expect Russia to continue using propaganda, social media, false-flag personas, sympathetic spokesmen and other means to influence, to try to build on its wide range of operations and exacerbate social and political fissures in the United States," Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats previously testified.

"There should be no doubt that Russia perceives its past efforts as successful and views the 2018 US midterm elections as a potential target for Russian influence operations," he said.

But that conclusion appears at odds with Trump's repeated dismissals of Russian election meddling.


CNN
BillW
 
  3  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:38 pm
@revelette1,
rev, I am planning for the future. I'm opening a borscht resaurant and sinking all my retirement into Beet futures!
roger
 
  2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:41 pm
@BillW,
Diversify, man. Get in on some potato options, too.
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 27 Feb, 2018 02:45 pm
@roger,
Good thought roger, thanks - soup is soup! And, after tRump gets through with us, that's all we will be able to afford.........oh yeah, and wheat for bread. Damn, I may be a tRumpian millionaire!
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