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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
revelette1
 
  4  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:20 am
As little as Trump is giving now on the gun regulation issue, let's see if he holds to those concessions now that the gun advocates (obsessed) are feeling betrayed.

Quote:
DENVER — As President Donald Trump talked this week about banning "bump stocks" and curbing young people's access to guns, the gun owners and advocates who helped propel his political rise talked about desertion and betrayal.

Trump's flirtation with a set of modest gun control measures drew swift condemnation from gun groups, hunters and sportsmen who banked on the president to be a stalwart opponent to any new gun restrictions. In his pledge to make schools safer and curb gun violence after the massacre at a Florida high school, gun advocates see a weakening resolve from the man they voted for in droves and spent millions to elect.

"Out in the firearms community there is a great feeling of betrayal and abandonment, because of the support he was given in his campaign for president," Tony Fabian, president of the Colorado Sports Shooting Association, said Friday.

The comments highlight how little room the president and his party have to maneuver without angering and activating the politically powerful gun rights community. Trump has not yet formally proposed any legislative plan and he spent much of the week endorsing the notion of arming teachers and school officials — a plan the gun lobby supports. Still, just floating proposals that defy the National Rifle Association and other groups drew threats of political retribution and legal action.

The confrontation is set to test whether Trump, a figure deeply popular with his party's base, is willing to risk his political capital to take on a constituency few Republicans have challenged.

"The president has a unique ability right now to maybe really do something about these school shootings," said Rep. Tom Rooney, a Republican from Florida. "Nobody is more popular in my district — and I know in a lot of other people's districts — than Donald Trump. He's more popular than the NRA. ... So it's up to him whether or not anything happens with guns."



AP
revelette1
 
  4  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:31 am
Quote:
WASHINGTON — On the offensive about his record and the defensive about the Russia investigation, President Donald Trump sought in a week's worth of rhetoric to show that he is outdoing his predecessor, if not all of history. This made for inflated claims.

His speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday marked his spirited return to a big stage after days of dealing with the national trauma of the Parkland, Florida, school massacre.

In his remarks, Trump mischaracterized the Paris climate accord and his record on several fronts. This, after he exhibited defiance during the week about the special counsel's investigation of Russian activities in the U.S. election, stating on thin evidence that he's been tougher on Moscow for its meddling than President Barack Obama ever was.

A look at some of his statements to conservatives and the Twitter world:

TRUMP on the Obama-era mandate to buy health insurance or pay a fine: "That's gone." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: It's not gone. People still risk fines this year if they go without health insurance. Under a law that has been enacted, the fines will disappear in 2019.

TRUMP on coal: "And West Virginia, now, is doing great. You look at what's happening in West Virginia, you look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, you look at what's happening in Ohio and you look at what's happening in Wyoming — you look at what's happening all over — it's like a — it's like a different world." — CPAC speech

THE FACTS: Coal has not come roaring back and West Virginia's economy, in particular, still struggles.

Nationwide, coal mining has added just 1,100 jobs in Trump's first year and the industry now employs 51,800. That reverses five years of declines, but back in 2013 coal mining employed 78,400. Abundant natural gas has become a cheaper alternative to coal for many power plants and is a key reason for the coal industry's long-term struggle.

West Virginia's unemployment rate was 5.5 percent in December, the latest data available, compared with 4.5 percent in May and little changed from when Trump took office in January 2017.

The national unemployment rate has fallen since May and was 4.1 percent in December. West Virginia has added just 1,500 jobs since Trump's inauguration, a 0.2 percent gain. That's below the nationwide increase of 1.3 percent.

Wyoming hasn't gained any jobs since January 2017. Its unemployment rate has fallen from 4.8 percent to 4.2 percent, partly because fewer people are looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.

Pennsylvania has added jobs and its unemployment rate has fallen in the past year. But coal doesn't appear to have much to do with it. The biggest job gains were in professional and business services, which include engineering, accountants and architects, and a separate category mostly made up of hotel and restaurant jobs.

Ohio has also improved overall: Its unemployment rate has fallen to 4.7 percent in December from 5 percent when Trump took office. The state added 35,000 jobs, a 0.6 percent gain, also below the national average. Its job gains were mostly in education and health care, hotels and restaurants, and manufacturing.

TRUMP: "We passed the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: Trump's tax cuts are not the largest in history, despite his frequent claims that they are.

In comparisons using 2012 inflation-adjusted dollars, his cuts average about $130 billion a year, compared with $208 billion a year for President Ronald Reagan's 1981 tax cut package, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget of the Senate proposal that shaped the final overhaul. Obama cut taxes by a larger average than Trump, in 2010 and 2013, when he made permanent the temporary cuts enacted by President George W. Bush.

Analyses of earlier versions of Trump's tax cut proposals, when they were considerably larger than they eventually became, found that his package lagged Reagan's, post-World War II tax cuts and at least several others when measured as a percentage of the gross domestic product. That's another common yardstick used by economists for historical comparisons.


More at AP
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thack45
 
  3  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:34 am
@blatham,
I read about that last night. How is this not a clear case of state-sponsored religion?
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farmerman
 
  4  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:34 am
@maporsche,
The facts supporting all the emerging information regarding the unacceptable lack of securty and security tech at Parkland really emphasizes one clear belief in most all of our school districts. Everyone really believes that something like this could "NEVER HAPPEN HERE"

Until we can accept this reality and stop politically polarizing the entire issue and get around to serious solutions, its a "New Norm" that we must adjust to. I am repulsed by the thought of arming teachers , but the Mayberry days are over for our nation and some of these attempts at solutions will have to be tried so our kids remain safe and so do folks gathered at a large venue .

jcboy
 
  9  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:39 am
The Democratic legislators are always bashed by the NRA and conservatives tend to believe those lies because they still think of the NRA as a group of 2nd Amendment advocates.

But these days they are just well-paid lobbyists for weapons manufacturers. They care very little about your "rights".
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 09:49 am
@farmerman,
Agreed.

The fact that the Mayberry Days are over can hardly be laid at the doorstep of any single entity: Not the NRA, not Hollywood, not either political party.

We as a people need to do some real soul searching to figure out how we have managed to progress in so many areas and yet regress in so many others.

It won't happen, but it should.

Glennn
 
  0  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:01 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
As for SSRI users, do you realize that something close to 13% of Americans take them? Do you think they are all ticking time bombs? Do you know anyone who takes them? This is a ridiculous idea and only further stigmatizes people with mental health issues.

From the International Journal of Risk & Safety in Medicine:

Evidence from many sources confirms that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) commonly cause or exacerbate a wide range of abnormal mental and behavioral conditions. These adverse drug reactions include the following overlapping clinical phenomena: a stimulant profile that ranges from mild agitation to manic psychoses, agitated depression, obsessive preoccupations that are alien or uncharacteristic of the individual, and akathisia (a state of agitation, distress, and restlessness that is an occasional side-effect of antipsychotic and antidepressant drugs). Each of these reactions can worsen the individual’s mental condition and can result in suicidality, violence, and other forms of extreme abnormal behavior. Evidence for these reactions is found in clinical reports, controlled clinical trials, and epidemiological studies in children and adults.

http://breggin.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/01/31-49.pdf
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:03 am
@Glennn,
And there are many sources that confirm that when properly prescribed these drugs are life-savers.
farmerman
 
  4  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:05 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
My point is that this is too important for any side to claim some kind of righteousness. Polarization will not fix a damn thing. It merely makes each side dig in farther.That results in NOTHING getting done, and maybe itll be your kids in the line of fire next time. Think about that.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:12 am
@farmerman,
I didn't argue with your point, I agreed with it.
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Glennn
 
  0  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:21 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
When properly prescribed, an SSRI is known to have side effects. For example, Fluoxetine, which is used to treat depression or obsessive-compulsive disorder in adults, has suicidal ideation and violent behavior listed as a side effect by the British National Formulary, a joint publication of the British Medical Association and the Royal Pharmaceutical Society. I don't know how many advertisements for antidepressants I've seen on television that list suicidal thoughts and violent behavior as possible side effects. I've even seen one that mentioned possible homicidal thoughts as a side effect.
McGentrix
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:22 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

They pay a lot of money to prevent even basic legal changes that would reduce the murder of innocent people. They actively fight any improvement in our disastrous murder rate.

Since they pin that A on lawmakers who oppose even the slightest change, a low grade from them should be a badge of honor.


Huh. Never would have figured you for a kool-aid drinker.

You've used "common sense gun control" and "basic legal changes" now. Do you have any specifics in mind or just grabbing the latest sound bites?

What is it, even vaguely, you'd like to see done?
MontereyJack
 
  5  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:25 am
@oralloy,
oralloy says:
Quote:

The NRA does not enable any murder
Sure it does. Nikolas Cruz , for one.
McGentrix
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:31 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:
Quote:

The NRA does not enable any murder
Sure it does. Nikolas Cruz , for one.


May as well say the FBI enables murder too. And the police, the ATF and Brownie Troop 3112 out of Seattle. All about as equally culpable for Cruz's actions.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 10:54 am
@McGentrix,
Nonsense. They don't enable and encourage nutballs to get guns. The NRA does. As for the Brownies and Girl Scouts, I can't think of a single person killed with a cookie. Or a brownie.
BillW
 
  2  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:03 am
@MontereyJack,
MJ, it's just typical right wing claptrap nonense. No original ideas, all devious actions!
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:05 am
@McGentrix,
Here's an avatar for you.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mrmen/images/3/32/Mr-Jelly-2A.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20180104121027

Poor Mr Jelly is scared of everything and anyone, even his own shadow!

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camlok
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:12 am
@jcboy,
Quote:
But these days they are just well-paid lobbyists for weapons manufacturers. They care very little about your "rights".


That is the essence of the USA. There are well paid lobbyists for everything that is bad about the USA, including those lobbyists that protect the myriad criminals on Wall Street and all their little bloodsucking juniors.
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camlok
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:14 am
@blatham,
Quote:
Christian Broadcasting Network, a media outlet that also seems to double as a propaganda arm of the Trump administration,


All US media doubles as a propaganda arm of the every administration. The USA is Nazi Heavy.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Sat 24 Feb, 2018 11:56 am
Quote:
United and Delta join growing list of companies that will no longer offer discounts to NRA members.
 

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