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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Frugal1
 
  0  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 12:24 pm
It's a shame nobody monitored 0bama and his white supremacists democrats. These liberals always made contemporary events about themselves, not the country, the flag, or the people. Trump is all about the American people, their flag, and their country - that's why he won.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 12:25 pm
@Frugal1,
Quote:
It's a shame nobody monitored 0bama and his white supremacists democrats.

Please provide proof and their impact on society.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 12:26 pm
@layman,
Well said!

Far too many people fail to see the odd connection between widespread concerns about rising income inequity and the equally obvious lack of qualitry long-term employment opportuniuty for the young, just entering the workforve, and the fatuous boasts of slavish supporters of the current inept and misguided Administration of yet another lowering of the unemployment rate> How can these discordant phenomena coexist?

The answer is obvious, as you have stated. Workforce participation rates are still declining and new job creation, where it exists, involves a high fraction of temporary or part time jobs. Why? Companies are sitting on hordes of cash; buying back their stock; paying dividends to keep up the price - anything to avoid investing it in an increasingly regulated economy because they can't calculate a profitable scenario in the face of a continuing explosion of Federal Regulations that directly affect their plans, and have lost faith in an obviously wrong-headed government.

We may well see some changes soon.
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layman
 
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Fri 2 Dec, 2016 12:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Not really. The unemployment rate stays pretty stable at around 5%. That means there's an exchange between retirees and new workers.
We all know what happened in 2008-2009, but otherwise the unemployment rate is pretty stable.


The graph you cite says nothing whatsoever about the problem being addressed here. You might want to read the article I cited. Again:

"Some 59 percent of those who have been out of work for two years or more say they have stopped looking, the Harris Poll of unemployed Americans showed....the drop came primarily because of a sharp decline in the labor force participation rate. The number of people of all ages whom the government considers "not in the labor force" swelled by 664,000 to a record 94.7 million Americans"
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old europe
 
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Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:01 pm
@layman,
Quote:
I just cited a source that says that an AB-60 is acceptable ID in Calfornia.


No, you didn't.

You cited a source that says that a CA driver's license is acceptable ID in California.

Then you claimed that therefore AB-60s are an acceptable form of ID. Despite California law explicitly stating that they aren't. Despite the actual AB-60 card saying “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

You're claiming that the State of California is violating California state law, and you have not presented any evidence for that.
layman
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:03 pm
@old europe,
Just answer the damn question.

Do you STILL maintain that proof of citizenship is required in order to vote in California?

Yes or no?
old europe
 
  2  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:08 pm
@layman,
Just answer the damn question, layman.

Do you STILL maintain that an AB-60 is sufficient identification in order to vote in California?

Yes or no?
layman
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:10 pm
@old europe,
"Then you claimed that therefore AB-60s are an acceptable form of ID. Despite California law explicitly stating that they aren't. Despite the actual AB-60 card saying “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”


In the meantime, I will note that this red herring is a total non sequitur.

OF COURSE a driver's license is no substitute for completing a voter registration form. Who would ever think otherwise?

Show me ANYPLACE where california law says it can't be used as an ID, not that it's even the least bit relevant to the issue. I have already given you authoritative link saying it is. The language you cite does not even BEGIN to say otherwise, as you illogically appear to deduce.

Remind me, again....what do you call it when you make demonstrably false statements?
layman
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:12 pm
@old europe,
Heh, more total evasion, eh? You think your chickenshit evasions are not obvious to anyone paying attention?

Just answer the damn question, cheese-eater.
Frugal1
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:15 pm
@layman,
In California, voters are not generally required to present photo identification at the polls.
Steb
 
  1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The American voters just gave you all the proof you need about how Obama and the democrats impacted society. They democratic party has been drawn and quartered, and it's not because the Obama clan impacted our society in a good way.
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old europe
 
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Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:18 pm
@layman,
Nobody said that a driver's license is a substitute for completing a voter registration form. You either have a reading comprehension problem, or you're deliberately throwing out nonsense to derail the conversation.

Meanwhile, let's go back to your post where you said this

layman wrote:
Los Angeles is what? 8-10 million people or so.

Almost half of it's residents are hispanic. California issues driver's licenses to undocumented aliens. In order to vote in a presidential election in California, you need only show a driver's license.


Implying that California allows undocumented aliens to vote in a presidential election in California.

That's a good conspiracy theory, layman.

So far, you've failed to back it up.
layman
 
  0  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:19 pm
@Frugal1,
Frugal1 wrote:

In California, voters are not generally required to present photo identification at the polls.


Right, Frug. I have aleady cited that fact to Yurp, straight from the official California Voter registration website, so he already knows it. But thanks for the confirmation
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old europe
 
  2  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:19 pm
@layman,
Just answer the damn question, layman.

Do you STILL maintain that an AB-60 is sufficient identification in order to vote in California?

Yes or no?
layman
 
  0  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:21 pm
@old europe,
"Almost half of it's residents are hispanic. California issues driver's licenses to undocumented aliens. In order to vote in a presidential election in California, you need only show a driver's license."

As I already said, yesterday, upon more investigation I discovered you can show that, but it's not necessary.

ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION, FOOL.
layman
 
  0  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:23 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

Just answer the damn question, layman.

Do you STILL maintain that an AB-60 is sufficient identification in order to vote in California?

Yes or no?


It's sufficient as form of ID, sure. But it's not even required. No photo ID is, as I later found out.

ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION, FOOL.
old europe
 
  3  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:23 pm
@layman,
Are you confusing Voter Registration and voting, layman?

Are you saying that not needing ID at the polling place is the same as not needing ID for registering?
Steb
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:28 pm
@layman,
layman, I take it you applaud the mindset of Winston Churchill. I like your style!
layman
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:31 pm
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

Are you confusing Voter Registration and voting, layman?

Are you saying that not needing ID at the polling place is the same as not needing ID for registering?


Answer the damn question, cheese-eater.
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layman
 
  0  
Fri 2 Dec, 2016 03:32 pm
@Steb,
Steb wrote:

layman, I take it you applaud the mindset of Winston Churchill. I like your style!


True dat, Steb. Winny, he ROCKS!
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