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blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 07:53 am
Quote:
Catherine Deneuve and Others Denounce the #MeToo Movement
NYT
This headline is misleading. The denunciation here is pointed at the evolving processes of this new movement and tendencies towards absolutisms.
BillW
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 07:55 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
What the **** does Trump have to do with this?

Very little. That's the point.

Even when tRump weighs in on anything, he has little to do it but negative, sad, so sad......
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revelette1
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 07:55 am
David Brooks: The Decline of Anti-Trumpism (NYT)

A good wake up call. Basically he is saying we anti-Trump's have been turning into the likes of Fox viewers; only on the opposite side.
blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 07:58 am
@izzythepush,
I sincerely doubt Trump has enough knowledge or interest to form any sort of policy towards Iran. He's just a slimy salesman selling a slimy product - himself.
BillW
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:05 am
@revelette1,
Trumper
A person who is usually uneducated, ignorant, misogynistic, close minded, racist, sexist, homophobic, white supremacist, conservative, pro-life, anti-poor, pro-war, anti-science and hateful. Is usually white, redneck, selfish and blindly supports Donald Trump.
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Lash
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:09 am
@revelette1,
Exactly.
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blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:11 am
@revelette1,
It's a good piece but as with so much that is written by people like Brooks or Gerson, there is a pretty constant failure to confront the asymmetry in what they now find they must denounce. And that's a critical failure because this prevents them from truly dealing with cause.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:16 am
Judge blocks Trump decision to end young immigrant program (Reuters)

It is decisions (Sessions decision to end DACA) such as this we should be the loudest about, rather than going on about things which really don't make too much a difference in our lives.
blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:18 am
On the subject of corruption
Quote:
Netanyahu’s son brags about prostitutes, $20 billion deal for friend’s dad in strip club rant

The conversation between the young men, lubricated with alcohol, meandered past several ribald topics: disparaging, misogynistic comments about women; money borrowed to pay a stripper, a late-night search for a prostitute.

Three years later, recordings of their exchange have shaken Israel's political establishment and rippled around the world because of one of the men involved is Yair Netanyahu, the 26-year-old son of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The recording was aired Tuesday on Channel 2, Israel's top-rated news broadcast, according to the Associated Press, and comes at a politically difficult time for the elder Netanyahu, who is at the center of criminal investigations and whose government is passing unpopular legislation to curb business on the sabbath.
WP
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layman
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:19 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Judge blocks Trump decision to end young immigrant program (Reuters)

It is decisions such as this we should be the loudest about...


Indeed it is. This is judicial activism and legislation at it's worst. Every legal analyst, including Obama himself, has said the whole program is unconstitutional.

This judge orders that the violations of the constitution MUST continue. He has PROHIBITED the Justice Department from upholding the law and honoring the constitution.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:20 am
@revelette1,
Very true, I know of at least one left of centre poster who reacted disdainfully when told his post was chock full of lies. His response was something like 'What's sauce for the goose...'

This is very wrong, you don't beat serial liars by sinking to their level. If you do that then nobody knows what to believe. The way to defeat Trump is by doggedly sticking to the truth however unpalatable it may be at times.
revelette1
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:22 am
@layman,
I was speaking of Session's decision to end the DACA program in the first place.

Instead of ending it, disrupting countless lives, congress should get their stinking act together and come up real decisions which don't involve deporting all the dreamers who have positively contributed to our society.
layman
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:28 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

I was speaking of Session's decision to end the DOCA program in the first place.

Instead of ending it, disrupting countless lives, congress should get their stinking act together and come up real decisions which don't involve deporting all the dreamers who have positively contributed to our society.


Indeed they should, which is the whole point. The executive branch never had the constitutional authority to establish DACA in the first place. Everyone agrees on that (well, except for maybe one cheese-eating federal judge who thinks HE is the constitution).

Quote:
Responding in October 2010 to demands that he implement immigration reforms unilaterally, Obama declared, "I am not king. I can't do these things just by myself." In March 2011, he said that with "respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case." In May 2011, he acknowledged that he couldn't "just bypass Congress and change the (immigration) law myself. ... That's not how a democracy works
blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:30 am
As I've argued earlier, the GOP/conservatism are inevitably going to have to do a serious re-branding effort when this Trump insanity comes crashing down. Romney is one possibility.
Quote:
“Romney opens up the discussion, illustrating the fight for the soul of a fractured party,” said Peter Wehner, a veteran of three Republican administrations and a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

Wehner, who advised Romney’s 2012 campaign, added: “Trump’s failures have left him without an iron grip on the party, leaving an opening for different faces and people like Romney, an alternative approach.”

On the right, however, activists who have a deep affinity for Trump’s upheaval of the GOP said a Romney revival would represent if anything the gasp of an old order in a party captured by the president — calling the bloc of establishment Republicans united mostly by a loathing of Trump.
WP

He's a possibility because of how he stands in contrast with Trump - calm, clean-cut, orderly, far more experienced and knowledgeable, etc. Of course, many others will stand in such contrast with Trump but the Romney example shows us clearly how easy this re-branding might be done. And as we know from experience, anything anyone like Coulter or Limbaugh has said about Romney in the past will fit down the memory hole like it's been lubricated.
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blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:38 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
'What's sauce for the goose...'
This is very wrong
Yes! Maintenance of integrity is vital. Not just for the Dems but for the political process and America. The reason that right wing agents constantly try to forward equivalence formulations ("Every politician lies) is not just to divert attention but to give followers a conceptual framework wherein anything covert, deceitful and even illegal or unconstitutional perpetrated by right wing leaders can be accorded no significance.
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blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:42 am
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Trump administration does abrupt about-face, says no oil drilling off Florida coast
After pressure from Republican Gov. Rick Scott to reverse course, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke declared offshore drilling “off the table” in politically important Florida.
WP

As I've said before, integrity and consistency of principles play no part in modern conservatism. Power is everything.
layman
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 08:47 am
@layman,
Quote:
The unconstitutionality of Obama's actions were confirmed when Obama tried to implement a second, similar program in 2014 called the Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents program, or DAPA. Like DACA, DAPA provided an administrative amnesty for illegal aliens who came to the U.S. as adults and gave them work authorizations and access to government benefits.

The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a nationwide injunction against DAPA, which the Supreme Court allowed to stand. As the Fifth Circuit said, the fact that the president declined to enforce the law and remove illegal aliens "does not transform presence deemed unlawful by Congress into lawful presence and confer eligibility for otherwise unavailable benefits based on that change. "Under our Constitution, Congress has plenary authority over immigration. The president only has the authority delegated to him by Congress – and Congress has never given the president the power to provide a pseudo-amnesty and government benefits to illegal aliens."


As the Fifth Circuit said, the fact that the president declined to enforce the law and remove illegal aliens "does not transform presence deemed unlawful by Congress into lawful presence." Get it, Rev?
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blatham
 
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Wed 10 Jan, 2018 09:15 am
Today's edition of Voices From The Right
Also, today's must read.
Quote:
... I think it’s very much up in the air for me, you know, how fundamental the effect of Trump is.

Could it be ultimately a kind of unfortunate parenthesis in the history of the Republican Party and of conservatism, modern American conservatism? Or is it an inflection point where the party has to fundamentally rethink itself, or you need to have a new party, or conservatism has to be almost fundamentally redefined, or you have to say, “that was a good 60-year run for American conservatism, but time for something else”?

That, I think, is really, for me, an open question, and more of an open question at the end of this year [2017] than it was at the beginning. I think if we had had this conversation 10 months ago, I would have said, “You know, I think we can get beyond Trump.”

But now the degree of rationalization by Republicans, among Republicans, the degree of excuse-making for Trump, the degree to which Trump has changed, apparently, Republican voters’ views.

..You’d be foolish not to rethink your judgment of some aspects of conservatism, insofar as it’s enabled Trump, insofar as so many conservatives are enabling Trump. It has made me rethink certain aspects of conservative doctrine and dogma..
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Bill Kristol

I think this is more honest that Brook's critique above because Kristol explicitly acknowledges that his party might very well be too far gone to self-correct.
 

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