@georgeob1,
Quote:I have made the perhaps foolish assumption that your references were to criminal collusion - anything less would not merit either an investigation or follow up action.
And how would anyone know if criminality is a feature of the collusion without an investigation?
Quote:Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.
For example, if Donald Trump Jr. sought “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russians, he might be charged with conspiring to violate the election laws of the United States, which prohibit foreign nationals from contributing any “thing of value” to an electoral campaign. The opposition dirt is at least plausibly a thing of value. And to the extent that the Trump campaign aided, abetted or advised the Russians (or any other hackers) about what would be most useful to steal from the Democrats or how best to enhance the impact of their release, they may well have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
Paul Rosenzweig, former deputy assistant sec for polity at DHS.
Quote:The word “collusion” has been a terrible one to use in the Trump-Russia saga, since it doesn’t accurately describe either the criminal or counterintelligence aspects of what we know. On the criminal side, the word that would best describe an agreement between the Trump campaign and Russia to commit any number of crimes (say, election fraud) would be “conspiracy”—something that the recent release of Donald Trump Jr.’s email chain might support.
On the counterintelligence side, collusion is best described by the word “recruitment.” The aim of a foreign intelligence service is to find and convince individuals to help them achieve intelligence objectives.
Asha Rangappa, associate dean Yale Law School, former special agent at Counterintelligence Div of FBI
That's the first two opinions of legal and intel scholars
gathered together by Politico
Let us note here that there is no evidence of criminality arising from Clinton's actions re email or Benghazi. Likewise, there was no evidence of criminality re Whitewater. Therefore, according to you thesis above, no one had any proper business running investigations in either of these cases.
Let me add another very important point. If Trump's team did not engage in collusion but in a manner that does not demand a criminal charge, it would still be a significant scandal if that team knowingly worked with Russian operatives to turn the election in Trump's favor. If that was the case, then US citizens really ought to know (and would surely want to know) it was the case. So even if there is no explicit criminality on this point, an investigation is surely in the nation's best interest.
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I don't think that mentioning what Trump clearly believes (or merely insists) is a fundamental truth 16 times in an interview with a normally very hostile media source is evidence of insanity or derangement. Trump is unorthodox in many ways and was seriously underestimated by his opponents, both Republican and Democrat in the 2016 elections. That is a very effective strategy, one that figures prominently in history going back a very long time. You should read more history.
I did not say that this singular case of restating a claim 16 times in that interview was evidence of derangement. One has to look at a much broader range of Trump behaviors to get to that conclusion as real possibility. But when one does, the case is reasonably made. As to "effective strategy", sure, you could say that. But so is slaughtering all your potential political enemies. So was much of what Goebbels did. So is lying, often. Stealing can be and effective strategy. Serial rape can spread your genes far and wide as DNA testing has confirmed re Genghis and a few other seriously ugly humans. You need a new moral compass, george.
Re your reading habits - you previously wrote here that your news diet is The Economist and the WSJ. Your words.
Other than that, happy new year to you too.