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@blatham,

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That would make as much sense as attending to what Donald Trump says or writes about his record and standing as president compared to previous presidents.

And yet you do every single day.

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@blatham,

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Also true. I wish I had my own cable channel. But the "belief" that there's something seriously wrong with this man is definitely not restricted to left wing Canadiacks. I suppose I ought to have posted more of such commentary as it has come from American conservatives. My failing. I'll correct that going ahead.

But, alas, it will have the same non-existent effect.

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I am constantly amazed that the conservative operatives here refer to Bernie's "followers"--as though others posting in this thread, who are not involved in diversions to discussions about Clinton or attacks on the Russian meddling investigation, are all just lock-step "yup, me too" drones. That must be because that sort of thing is so common in conservative circles--such as Lush Lamebrain and his ditto-heads.

Many people here post without reference to what Bernie has posted, and post relevant material, often with links to articles for discussion. Jesus, Finn, what a moron you make yourself out to be.

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This Greenhouse column is a month old but I must have missed it. And it's important.

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Even though there’s been nothing subtle about the current push to fill dozens of judicial vacancies kept open by the Republican-controlled Senate during the final years of the Obama administration, a document now making the rounds inside the Beltway is head-snapping. It is a proposal by a leading conservative constitutional scholar to double or even triple the number of authorized judgeships on the federal Courts of Appeals, now fixed by law at 179.

Why so many, and why now? The author, Steven G. Calabresi, a law professor at Northwestern University, a founder and the current board chairman of the conservative Federalist Society, declares his goal boldly: “undoing the judicial legacy of President Barack Obama.”

NYT

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@Setanta,

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Who is the moron? The angler or the fish?

Laughing

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Poor Finny ... he attempts to suggest that he has somehow won when people point out to him how moronic his posts are.

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@Setanta,

Yeah, that must be it!

Lord, I wish the fish in my lake were as easy as you.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-42521298

Iranians in third day of popular uprising against their government.

Wishing them well.

And hoping we’re finally in the streets soon.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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In my mind, at least there is a difference between forcing someone to promote or support abortion than to bake a cake for lesbians...The people of Oregon seem to have drawn it at refusing to bake wedding cakes for lesbians. I don't see that as draconian.

I agree that there's not really much at stake here. But, given that, I would certainly consider the penalty to be "draconian." I mean, really? A $135,000 fine followed by cleaning out the bank account of an honest, hard-working couple. For that?

The extreme consequences imposed suggest to me that the state actors had more in mind than "justice."

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@Baldimo,

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The baker also said that he would provide any baking good to the gay couple, he didn't want to decorate a wedding cake for them. A birthday cake? No problem. He objects to being forced to use his artistic ability, which art is considered to be a First Amendment Right, on something he doesn't agree with.

Right, Baldy, and I think that is strong evidence of religious conviction and not just some malicious dislike of an entire class.

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@layman,

No, you're right. The fine was draconian.

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Baldimo wrote:

The baker also said that he would provide any baking good to the gay couple...

To avoid any confusion, that was the Colorado case, not the Kleins.

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@Lash,

Because our government is a bad as theirs?

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@Setanta,

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I am constantly amazed that the conservative operatives here refer to Bernie's "followers"--as though others posting in this thread, who are not involved in diversions to discussions about Clinton or attacks on the Russian meddling investigation, are all just lock-step "yup, me too" drones.

Finn is following georgeob's lead here. It's not a rational claim to make but it serves their purposes to imagine one "leader" who is somehow able to drag others over to the dark side through his (my) magnificent rhetorical skills.

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Quote of the day

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Like advertising writers, sloganeers and propagandists, Trump appreciates the power repetition has on the lax mind.

Politico

Let's add educators to that list. It is simply an empirical fact that repetition affects memory. Of course, "education" is definitely not what Trump is up to when he repeats, "There was no collusion". That's a propagandist use.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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The fine was draconian.

There were aggravating circumstances which you can read about in the court document.

Sweet Cakes Final Order

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Yes, let's.

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Mediaite
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@Mediaite
As Trump Golfs For Fifth Straight Day, Let’s Revisit Conservative Criticisms of Obama’s Golfing

http://bit.ly/2Cdb8W5

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@layman,

layman wrote:

I agree that there's not really much at stake here. But, given that, I would certainly consider the penalty to be "draconian." I mean, really? A $135,000 fine followed by cleaning out the bank account of an honest, hard-working couple. For that?

The extreme consequences imposed suggest to me that the state actors had more in mind than "justice."

Not only that, when the couple set up a page to receive donations to help pay the fine, deranged liberals bombarded the site with malicious abuse reports alleging that the donations were for a homophobic cause and got their page taken down so the couple couldn't even receive donations.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSTUEgGW4AIZne5.jpg

Brilliant! 2018 arrives and there is a big ******* elephant in the room.

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@hightor,

Did the Kleins refuse all business or just the creation of a wedding cake? I haven't been able to figure that out from this case.

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