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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 04:50 am
@Olivier5,
I had thought - like most who understand politics - the "neo-" in "neo-liberal" referred to the meaning of "liberal" in the meaning it is used where this term was invented/first used.
Liberal outside the USA means something different ...
blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 04:56 am
@snood,
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the smarmy tongue baths being given to Plump by his spineless crew.
Aside from the more run-of-the-mill sycophancy, the precedent case here is that cabinet meeting stunt in July where each member of the cabinet took turns in an apparent competition for Most Excellent Toady as Trump sat there looking like this....

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/RyLo1LR3XrbzGUDou_ZEYYJ2u5c=/0x0:4790x3383/920x613/filters:focal(1770x411:2536x1177):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55215271/GettyImages_695238494.0.jpg
hightor
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 05:20 am
@blatham,
(problem with that link)
blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 05:46 am
@hightor,
Image not coming through for others? It's from a Vox piece on that ridiculed "cabinet meeting"
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 05:53 am
This is, in all ways, disgusting.
Quote:
The Trump administration is waging a linguistic battle across official Washington, seeking to shift public perception of key policies by changing the way the federal government talks about climate change, scientific evidence and disadvantaged communities.

The push drew fresh attention after employees at the Department of Health and Human Services were told to avoid certain words — including “vulnerable” “entitlement” and “diversity” — when preparing requests for next year’s budget. But the effort to disappear certain language and replace it with other terms is much broader, sparking resistance from career officials in multiple federal agencies, outside experts and congressional Democrats.

Climate change, for example, has for months presented a linguistic minefield; multiple references to it have been purged repeatedly at the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior Department...
WP

If something happened in the culture which led to Orwell's 1984 once again gaining a very high profile such that, say, high schools across the nation added it to their mandatory reading lists and if a very popular movie of the book hit theaters like gangbusters, guess who would try to shut this down.
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Lash
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 06:17 am
If anyone is legitimately interested in the neoliberal reality in the US, they can quite easily search for articles and interviews with Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges, or Cornel West.

Or you can continue to pretend I made it up so you don't have to confront what you've turned into.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 21 Dec, 2017 06:25 am
@Lash,
A good idea, equivalent would be buying American Swiss cheese and write afterwards an expertise about Emmentaler, Appenzeller, Tête de Moine, Vacherin Mont d'Or, ...
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hightor
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 06:31 am
@Lash,
Quote:
If anyone is legitimately interested in the neoliberal reality in the US, they can quite easily search for articles and interviews with Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges, or Cornel West.

How do you determine if their analyses are truly "legitimate" and authoritative and not just opinion? West, for instance, doesn't strike me as an especially coherent political thinker. Moralist Hedges obviously has a religious axe to grind. Chomsky's best work was done years ago. I'd look for other sources, or better yet, just develop my own conclusions.
blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 06:37 am
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David Frum‏Verified account
@davidfrum
Stanford U Prof of Medicine, former Air Force surgeon, loses nomination for DoD health job for saying, "how insane it is that in the United States of America a civilian can go out and buy a semiautomatic weapon like an AR-15.”
story here
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 06:46 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Re: Lash (Post 6561331)
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If anyone is legitimately interested in the neoliberal reality in the US, they can quite easily search for articles and interviews with Noam Chomsky, Chris Hedges, or Cornel West.

That discussion, though interesting, is irrelevant to this thread.

Lash has a project here:
1) divert conversations critical of what Trump, the GOP and modern conservatism are up to
2) attempt to denigrate or invalidate liberalism and the Democratic party through pushing ideologues from the far left


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blatham
 
  5  
Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:02 am
Will tax cuts pay for themselves as Republicans like Paul Ryan have been insisting since forever? Now that this tax bill has passed, what do you really think, sir?
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NBC News‏Verified account
@NBCNews
This tax cut is going to cost 1.6 trillion dollars more to the deficit- are you saying that the growth we’re going to get from this tax cut will equal what we get from the deficit?

Speaker Ryan: "Nobody knows the answer to that question."


But it is actually not at all clear that Ryan believes even this new claim. There's a damned good chance that he knows it won't happen but has never had that as a goal at all. An economy that elevates all is definitely NOT what the Koch brothers or key conservative economists desire. Because the poor deserve to be poor and the rich deserve to be rich.

But these people can only get what they want - the permanent destruction of citizen democracy - through destroying the necessary precursors to citizen government.
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Lash
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:09 am
@hightor,
I agree with these brilliant guys. I'm not in denial about the facts, and neither are they, so there's no reason to avoid what they have to say.
Lash
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:11 am
@blatham,
The discussion touched on neoliberalism.

I responded.

You're beginning to be a hysterical caricature. Plenty of people discussed neoliberalism.

You obviously cannot countenance criticism from the left, so you've created an insane narrative to try to censor me. What are you afraid of?
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:21 am
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This marks a new era in American politics. The Republican Party is no longer just obfuscating the truth or defending the president when he is accused of wrongdoing. Rather, Mr. Trump, Fox News and Republicans in Congress seem to be actively using falsehoods to prepare an assault on the institutions that allow American democracy to function.
NYT
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maporsche
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:21 am
@Lash,
Confront it?

I’m proud of being a neoliberal.
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:25 am
Let's round up the most insane peckerheads in the country and put them in positions of leadership.
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Yashar Ali 🐘‏Verified account
@yashar
New: Senior WH advisor at Homeland Security pushed claims that Obama's memoir was ghost written by former anti-Vietnam War radical Bill Ayers, that Fmr CIA Director John Brennan converted to Islam & that Eric Holder had been a member of the Black Panthers.
CNN
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Dec, 2017 07:31 am
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Garry Kasparov‏Verified account
@Kasparov63
More Garry Kasparov Retweeted Steve Silberman
Until Trump, I believed that official public spectacles of personal loyalty and nationalism that reminded me of the Stalinism were limited to dictatorships.
Yeah? Well what the **** would he know about it?
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